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Post by professorhoya on Jan 26, 2016 21:30:49 GMT -5
LOL. imagining the shock.
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Post by SaxaCD on Jan 26, 2016 21:32:00 GMT -5
Fellas my oldest son had a game at 6:15 tonight so I didn't see but the last 3-4 mins....a few questions 1.) Did Ike play better tonight? Looking at my phone it seemed like he played better even if not the Ike that we expected in the preseason. 2.) Did Trey play in the 2nd half? I saw that he played well in the 1st and provided a spark but nothing in the 2nd. Ike had career highs in rebounds (10) and assists (7), according to a Twitter post I saw. Shot still too flat, but made a few early. Trey started the second half but fouled immediately, took a poor shot and looked a bit outmuscled. He then provided some quality (if quiet minutes) later in the half, I believe.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 26, 2016 21:33:59 GMT -5
I'm in an uber on the way home. I left before the last TV timeout. I've had season tickets for twenty years and I've never left a game before the end. Today, I just couldn't take it any longer. If I decide not to renew my season tickets next year, it's not because I stopped loving my alma mater or my team. It will be because I can no longer stomach the garbage that is officiating in a Big East Georgetown game. It is no longer a sport when there isn't fair competition. I don't know what I watched tonight, but it wasn't basketball. Maybe you're our good luck charm when you leave early. Really sorry you missed the last 2 1/2 minutes. Refs sucked big time tonight.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 26, 2016 21:34:14 GMT -5
Fellas my oldest son had a game at 6:15 tonight so I didn't see but the last 3-4 mins....a few questions 1.) Did Ike play better tonight? Looking at my phone it seemed like he played better even if not the Ike that we expected in the preseason. 2.) Did Trey play in the 2nd half? I saw that he played well in the 1st and provided a spark but nothing in the 2nd. Ike had career highs in rebounds (10) and assists (7), according to a Twitter post I saw. Shot still too flat, but made a few early. Trey started the second half but fouled immediately, took a poor shot and looked a bit outmuscled. He then provided some quality (if quiet minutes) later in the half, I believe. Groselle was just too big for him. Trey's success in the first half was against Hafner and the other big. Groselle just had too much size.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 26, 2016 21:36:42 GMT -5
Officiating has been uneven at best in the league this year but tonight was horrific.
John Cahill, are you even paying attention?
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Post by eagle54 on Jan 26, 2016 21:38:02 GMT -5
Just watched the game in its entirety albeit with a bit of a late start. I don't know what they are thinking with a 6:30 EST start for CBB on a Tuesday but I'm sure they have it all figured out.
Great ending and nice to see us pull one out in a close game especially on the home court. Refs certainly didn't help and that had nothing to do with rule changes just blind on some of those calls. This is something they can hopefully build on as they got a lot of players involved in a meaningful way which should help down the stretch (especially if they can't stay out of foul trouble).
I'll admit I almost just shut it down late in 2nd when we were down 10 or so as it just didn't seem like it could happen but that's what makes those endings all the better.
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Post by DallasHoya on Jan 26, 2016 21:39:07 GMT -5
Let's give some credit to JTIII:
- Going nuts on the bad foul calls (but not enough to get a T) - putting in Riyan Williams not to foul but to try stay with Watson (because no one else could) - having DSR post up Watson in the last minute to draw his 4th foul (something that should have been much earlier, but I didn't think of it either) - not fouling immediately with 30 seconds left but waiting until their worst foul shooter touched the ball (let's be nice and assume that was the plan)
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Post by SaxaCD on Jan 26, 2016 21:43:47 GMT -5
JT3 in on-court interview after the game "the team had a lot to overcome... a LOT to overcome". I think we, and the booing fans in Verizon, understood that one loud and clear.
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Post by blueeagle on Jan 26, 2016 21:45:04 GMT -5
The two calls against Govan (illegal pick and box out) along with the the two calls on Peak (loose ball and double technical) were absolutely atrocious. The refs looked like they were punishing certain players for reasons I cannot fathom. The timing of the calls also stopped our momentum.
I was so glad to hear the boos rain on the zebras for a good 5-10 minutes. They definitely deserved all of the taunts and jeers.
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Post by hoyazeke on Jan 26, 2016 21:46:45 GMT -5
Fellas my oldest son had a game at 6:15 tonight so I didn't see but the last 3-4 mins....a few questions 1.) Did Ike play better tonight? Looking at my phone it seemed like he played better even if not the Ike that we expected in the preseason. 2.) Did Trey play in the 2nd half? I saw that he played well in the 1st and provided a spark but nothing in the 2nd. Ike had career highs in rebounds (10) and assists (7), according to a Twitter post I saw. Shot still too flat, but made a few early. Trey started the second half but fouled immediately, took a poor shot and looked a bit outmuscled. He then provided some quality (if quiet minutes) later in the half, I believe. Thanks.......I root for Trey probably more than any individual GTown player. Man we need Ike to find his shot in the next few weeks to have a chance in the BE tourney........
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Jan 26, 2016 21:47:08 GMT -5
No lie, the best coaching move of that game was III not getting a T. For those at the game, that was the most angry I've ever seen a crowd. I almost ran on the court myself. Ha. There was booing for a solid 5-10 minutes. Some of the fouls I can understand, but calling a foul on boxing out is just infuriating. Im sorry, but if you have position, you can not call a foul on the defender unless he is literally throwing a player to the ground. I've been a ticket holder since I moved back to DC in 2001. This was the first time I really, REALLY contemplated something stupid.
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Post by SaxaCD on Jan 26, 2016 21:48:46 GMT -5
The two calls against Govan (illegal pick and box out) along with the the two calls on Peak (loose ball and double technical) were absolutely atrocious. The refs looked like they were punishing certain players for reasons I cannot fathom. The timing of the calls also stopped our momentum. I was so glad to hear the boos rain on the zebras for a good 5-10 minutes. They definitely deserved all of the taunts and jeers. Govan and Peak executed those plays as best as any player can. For those to be called fouls was beyond ridiculous. I understand they want to "clean up the game" -- but it's basketball -- let players play under the hoop, too. JT2 might have just retired with these new rules, as he always felt big men should be rewarded as much as small men (and was against the 3 pointer for that reason, he thought the 2 you earned in the paint came from harder work).
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Post by seaweed on Jan 26, 2016 21:49:38 GMT -5
15-3 over the last 2 1/2 minutes. What a comeback!
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Post by SaxaCD on Jan 26, 2016 21:50:08 GMT -5
Ike had career highs in rebounds (10) and assists (7), according to a Twitter post I saw. Shot still too flat, but made a few early. Trey started the second half but fouled immediately, took a poor shot and looked a bit outmuscled. He then provided some quality (if quiet minutes) later in the half, I believe. Thanks.......I root for Trey probably more than any individual GTown player. Man we need Ike to find his shot in the next few weeks to have a chance in the BE tourney........ Trey's two jumpers near the end of the first half to get us back into the game were huge, and they were really pretty shots from the elbow area. Really valuable if he can keep that up!
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Post by drquigley on Jan 26, 2016 21:50:26 GMT -5
Maybe it's my Brooklyn upbringing but does the BE look at those calls and check the bank accounts of the guy making those calls against Govan? Seriously,
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Post by Hoya Rich on Jan 26, 2016 21:51:13 GMT -5
The two calls against Govan (illegal pick and box out) along with the the two calls on Peak (loose ball and double technical) were absolutely atrocious. The refs looked like they were punishing certain players for reasons I cannot fathom. The timing of the calls also stopped our momentum. I was so glad to hear the boos rain on the zebras for a good 5-10 minutes. They definitely deserved all of the taunts and jeers. I feel bad for Peak, he keeps coming out on the wrong end of these double-foul calls, like with that hack-artist on Xavier who pulled him to the floor (but Peak somehow got called as well). Be great if the refs gave him a little respect in those situations.
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Post by seaweed on Jan 26, 2016 21:55:11 GMT -5
Creighton board going nuclear on McDermott for having a 41% FT shooter on the floor and keeping two timeouts in his pocket. I wouldn't have had a 41% shooter on the floor in that situation...and for all of those on the board questioning JTIII, does he get props for recognizing said 41% ft shooter and immediately telling his team to foul him? Force #41
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 26, 2016 21:58:00 GMT -5
We got worked on the defensive boards tonight, which hadn't been happening. But we did ok, for us anyway, on the offensive glass.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 26, 2016 21:59:50 GMT -5
The two calls against Govan (illegal pick and box out) along with the the two calls on Peak (loose ball and double technical) were absolutely atrocious. The refs looked like they were punishing certain players for reasons I cannot fathom. The timing of the calls also stopped our momentum. I was so glad to hear the boos rain on the zebras for a good 5-10 minutes. They definitely deserved all of the taunts and jeers. Govan and Peak executed those plays as best as any player can. For those to be called fouls was beyond ridiculous. I understand they want to "clean up the game" -- but it's basketball -- let players play under the hoop, too. JT2 might have just retired with these new rules, as he always felt big men should be rewarded as much as small men (and was against the 3 pointer for that reason, he thought the 2 you earned in the paint came from harder work). Creighton board was saying that two of the refs were MVC refs from when Creihgton played in that conference. They were wondering what the MVC guys were doing in this Big East game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2016 22:00:39 GMT -5
Officiating has been uneven at best in the league this year but tonight was horrific. John Cahill, are you even paying attention? Ha! Cahill never even paid attention when he was reffing a game. Why would he start now?
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