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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 9:26:47 GMT -5
We certainly do agree on this. As to whether racism played a part, only Loehmann knows the answer. I hope they investigate this to determine how an officer who has repeatedly demonstrated bad judgment was out in the field and not at the very most sitting at a desk. As I stated above I have spoken to several police officers who were pretty unanimous in attesting to poor judgment on the part of Loehmann. One stated that he would have driven up behind Rice and yelled at him to put his gun down (which I suspect he would have) and this tragedy would have been avoided.
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Post by quickplay on Jan 14, 2016 10:08:35 GMT -5
Now that is intelligent!! Someone who has a history of poor judgment in the past and probably made poor judgement again. You want to send him to jail for 40 years. My beef is with his superiors who didn't suspend him a long time ago. If you think I am wrong, make your argument. You're not serious with this, are you? Multiple people, myself included, have made arguments about the officer's actions and you've dismissed them all. For some reason you've decided that unless an individual admits to a crime, nobody knows anything and there's no way for us to pass judgment - I mean, we can't get into his brain! Also, your efforts to refocus on hypotheticals instead of reality reflect the indefensible position you've taken. All you've done is hand-wave other people's claims away, change the subject, and tell us what your police officer friends told you you're allowed to be concerned over. Don't pretend like you've done anything but blow smoke.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 10:21:04 GMT -5
I am confused as to what you are saying. Can you clarify?? Are you saying this is Manslaughter?? What specifically is the indefensible position I have taken?? I have taken a couple of positions (criminality and racism) Can you clarify for me so that I can respond on point. Thanks. Jerry
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Post by This Just In on Feb 12, 2016 22:49:14 GMT -5
"Cleveland Sends Tamir Rice's Family Bill for Ambulance Trip"
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 16, 2016 16:16:32 GMT -5
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Post by kchoya on Apr 7, 2016 15:33:04 GMT -5
Black Lives Matter protesters are defending murderers and drug dealers. Tell the truth, they are defending the people who killed the lives they say matter.
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Post by quickplay on Apr 7, 2016 16:42:27 GMT -5
Black Lives Matter protesters are defending murderers and drug dealers. Tell the truth, they are defending the people who killed the lives they say matter. They haven't figured out a way to triangulate authentic protest movements yet...
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Post by Elvado on Apr 7, 2016 16:46:17 GMT -5
Black Lives Matter protesters are defending murderers and drug dealers. Tell the truth, they are defending the people who killed the lives they say matter. Do my eyes deceive me or are you quoting Bill Clinton there?
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Post by kchoya on Apr 7, 2016 17:09:11 GMT -5
Black Lives Matter protesters are defending murderers and drug dealers. Tell the truth, they are defending the people who killed the lives they say matter. Do my eyes deceive me or are you quoting Bill Clinton there? No, you got it
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Post by SaxaCD on Apr 7, 2016 19:49:21 GMT -5
Black Lives Matter protesters are defending murderers and drug dealers. Tell the truth, they are defending the people who killed the lives they say matter. I do at least think using the ballot box is a considerable step up from annoying people who have nothing to do with anything eating a weekend brunch.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 12:12:14 GMT -5
Tamir Rice's family has been paid 6 million dollars. This was at the very least poor judgment and gross negligence by the police officer.
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Post by Elvado on Apr 25, 2016 12:37:30 GMT -5
So in the end, is it possible the family got a bigger financial settlement because there was no indictment?
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Post by hoyainspirit on Apr 25, 2016 13:10:55 GMT -5
Tamir Rice's family has been paid 6 million dollars. This was at the very least poor judgment and gross negligence by the police officer. At the very least.
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 25, 2016 13:22:35 GMT -5
So in the end, is it possible the family got a bigger financial settlement because there was no indictment? That's hard to discern. See the settlement amounts in other cases which includes Walter Scott's shooting death and Freddie Gray's death. Officers were indicted. Eric Garner, no indictment and NYC settled at $5.9 million. The $6 million figure seems to be in the ballpark with the other settlements regardless of whether there was an indictment or not. "The city of Baltimore agreed to pay $6.4 million to the family of Freddie Gray, whose death in police custody a year ago led to charges against six officers. And in North Charleston, S.C., the city paid $6.5 million to the family of Walter Scott, whose shooting — captured on camera — led to murder charges against the officer involved." www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/04/25/cleveland-agrees-to-pay-6-million-to-settle-tamir-rice-lawsuit/?hpid=hp_rhp-more-top-stories_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
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