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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 10:32:31 GMT -5
He's a pro but that sight is questionable... Guys keep on saying he's gone if he's projected early second. That would be an odd choice and probably a bad one. 2nd round pick = no guaranteed contract. I know he has other factors but let's remember LJ is only 20 I also saw that the site has Ty Roberson being drafted but not Ty Lydon from Syracuse. Does that make any sense? I confess I don't know which sites are more valid than others but this site does not have Peak but does have Lydon at #17: www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2017/LOL wow... Absolutely not DraftExpress and Chad Ford talk to GM's so their sites more trustworthy imo. Still it's so early unless a kid is firmly in the top 20 range a lot can change. I expect LJ to go up a decent amount if he keeps playing at this level. OT a bit but this draft looks absolutely loaded on paper fwiw....
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Dec 19, 2016 10:37:59 GMT -5
#PEAKSHOW!
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Dec 19, 2016 11:24:18 GMT -5
I will add that I think, somewhat unfairly, Georgetown has a reputation of not allowing guards to rack up big numbers and points. I think Pryor and Peak are putting that to rest this season.
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 19, 2016 11:44:45 GMT -5
In the 12-13-16 update of www.nbadraft.net/2017mock_draft Peak is now listed as the sixth pick of the second round of the 2017 draft (#36). That make shim the highest ranked prospect of all BE players whom the site figures will be looking at the NBA after this season. Which is kind of sad for the BE if you think about it.... This current ranking s very impressive considering Peak was nowhere to be found in the 2017 draft coming into the season and pretty much non-existent on 2018 mock draft lists as well. And considering how typically these mock drafts lean towards underclassmen and considering how LOADED this freshmen class is at the guard position, Peak's ranking on nbadraft.net is pretty remarkable. Hell there are only four upperclassmen listed to go in the first round. Peak's limitations to me are strictly height-related but I have no doubt he can be an excellent pro regardless. He is athletic and has just a scary first step. He can shoot and drive with either hand. He can play defense and has an NBA-ready body. His ability to get fouled while driving translates extremely well for the NBA. Nbadraft.net still lists him as a guard/forward which guess is better than when sites were listing him strictly as a forward. He is a true guard and will be better than some of the guys listed ahead of him. If he keeps playing well you can expect him to rise to the point that he will be listed in the first round of the site's mock draft. He's a pro but that sight is questionable... Guys keep on saying he's gone if he's projected early second. That would be an odd choice and probably a bad one. 2nd round pick = no guaranteed contract. I know he has other factors but let's remember LJ is only 20 Regarding the BE pretty sure Edmond Sumner is listed somewhere above him. if not that's a mistake imo www.hoopsrumors.com/2016/07/2016-nba-draft-pick-signings.htmlAccording to this site a decent amount of early 2nd rounders got guaranteed contracts for good money too.. He's 20 now but in less than 2 months he'll be 21 which means he'll be 22 for the 2018 draft if he waits.. To me LJ will at least declare so he can workout for teams, chances are high that he'll get good feedback..
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Dec 19, 2016 11:50:27 GMT -5
I also saw that the site has Ty Roberson being drafted but not Ty Lydon from Syracuse. Does that make any sense? I confess I don't know which sites are more valid than others but this site does not have Peak but does have Lydon at #17: www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2017/LOL wow... Absolutely not DraftExpress and Chad Ford talk to GM's so their sites more trustworthy imo. Still it's so early unless a kid is firmly in the top 20 range a lot can change. I expect LJ to go up a decent amount if he keeps playing at this level. OT a bit but this draft looks absolutely loaded on paper fwiw.... IMO Draftexpress does a better job evaluating players outside the college game (Africa, Europe, Asia, Australia) but not really strong on the America's front (Canada, USA, South America). There are a bunch of reasons I say that but to long to list here. One reason for sure is it's probably harder to evaluate the college game because GM's see them so often they can pick apart their game vs the opportunity to see players from outside of North and South America. In the previously mentioned other parts of the world (outside the Americas) they will hide players from being evaluated by NBA scouts until right before the draft to avoid their players games being over analyzed like college kids. Chad Ford has a better feel for the U.S., Canadian and South American upcoming talent.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 12:32:58 GMT -5
He's a pro but that sight is questionable... Guys keep on saying he's gone if he's projected early second. That would be an odd choice and probably a bad one. 2nd round pick = no guaranteed contract. I know he has other factors but let's remember LJ is only 20 Regarding the BE pretty sure Edmond Sumner is listed somewhere above him. if not that's a mistake imo www.hoopsrumors.com/2016/07/2016-nba-draft-pick-signings.htmlAccording to this site a decent amount of early 2nd rounders got guaranteed contracts for good money too.. He's 20 now but in less than 2 months he'll be 21 which means he'll be 22 for the 2018 draft if he waits.. To me LJ will at least declare so he can workout for teams, chances are high that he'll get good feedback.. That's individual teams doing that not a pre draft guarantee based on draft position. Totally different things. He should absolutely test the waters but 22 isn't exactly old for the draft either. We all thought Ben Bentil was a pro, he got drafted second round and is playing in China right now. So it could work out it could not. I'm sure he will weigh his options regardless, as he should...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 12:40:14 GMT -5
LOL wow... Absolutely not DraftExpress and Chad Ford talk to GM's so their sites more trustworthy imo. Still it's so early unless a kid is firmly in the top 20 range a lot can change. I expect LJ to go up a decent amount if he keeps playing at this level. OT a bit but this draft looks absolutely loaded on paper fwiw.... IMO Draftexpress does a better job evaluating players outside the college game (Africa, Europe, Asia, Australia) but not really strong on the America's front (Canada, USA, South America). There are a bunch of reasons I say that but to long to list here. One reason for sure is it's probably harder to evaluate the college game because GM's see them so often they can pick apart their game vs the opportunity to see players from outside of North and South America. In the previously mentioned other parts of the world (outside the Americas) they will hide players from being evaluated by NBA scouts until right before the draft to avoid their players games being over analyzed like college kids. Chad Ford has a better feel for the U.S., Canadian and South American upcoming talent. I think both do pretty good. It's a tough business and evaluations change as players develop but they're better than most imo because they have actual contacts in NBA front offices..
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 19, 2016 12:51:28 GMT -5
In the 12-13-16 update of www.nbadraft.net/2017mock_draft Peak is now listed as the sixth pick of the second round of the 2017 draft (#36). That make shim the highest ranked prospect of all BE players whom the site figures will be looking at the NBA after this season. Which is kind of sad for the BE if you think about it.... This current ranking s very impressive considering Peak was nowhere to be found in the 2017 draft coming into the season and pretty much non-existent on 2018 mock draft lists as well. And considering how typically these mock drafts lean towards underclassmen and considering how LOADED this freshmen class is at the guard position, Peak's ranking on nbadraft.net is pretty remarkable. Hell there are only four upperclassmen listed to go in the first round. Peak's limitations to me are strictly height-related but I have no doubt he can be an excellent pro regardless. He is athletic and has just a scary first step. He can shoot and drive with either hand. He can play defense and has an NBA-ready body. His ability to get fouled while driving translates extremely well for the NBA. Nbadraft.net still lists him as a guard/forward which guess is better than when sites were listing him strictly as a forward. He is a true guard and will be better than some of the guys listed ahead of him. If he keeps playing well you can expect him to rise to the point that he will be listed in the first round of the site's mock draft. He's a pro but that sight is questionable... Guys keep on saying he's gone if he's projected early second. That would be an odd choice and probably a bad one. 2nd round pick = no guaranteed contract. I know he has other factors but let's remember LJ is only 20 Regarding the BE pretty sure Edmond Sumner is listed somewhere above him. if not that's a mistake imo Sumner may listed for the 2018 mock draft.
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Dec 19, 2016 12:54:44 GMT -5
Our program needs positive momentum so we need LJ to have a huge year. The 2018 recruiting class is going to be extremely important for us so from my perspective nothing would be better than LJ leading us to the second week of the NCAAs and putting himself in position to be a 1st rd draft pick. I hope it happens, the kid deserves it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 13:04:22 GMT -5
He's a pro but that sight is questionable... Guys keep on saying he's gone if he's projected early second. That would be an odd choice and probably a bad one. 2nd round pick = no guaranteed contract. I know he has other factors but let's remember LJ is only 20 Regarding the BE pretty sure Edmond Sumner is listed somewhere above him. if not that's a mistake imo Sumner may listed for the 2018 mock draft. I think he's a first rounder this year, he's projected late 1st on most sights currently. He was measured at 6'6 this summer at the Lebron camp. Have to figure he has their eye in a big way with his measurables..
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Post by deacon on Dec 19, 2016 13:19:00 GMT -5
I'd take anything posted on nbadraft.net with a humongous grain of salt.
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Post by dungeon ball on Dec 19, 2016 13:33:33 GMT -5
Not trying to be naysayer, but what's a good NBA comp for LJ? To me I'm little suspicious that his handles and passing aren't good enough for being an NBA pg, but he's a little small for SG and he wouldn't be able to drive as easily in the NBA.
There might be plenty of comps, it's just that we haven't really had a player like him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 13:46:45 GMT -5
Not trying to be naysayer, but what's a good NBA comp for LJ? To me I'm little suspicious that his handles and passing aren't good enough for being an NBA pg, but he's a little small for SG and he wouldn't be able to drive as easily in the NBA. There might be plenty of comps, it's just that we haven't really had a player like him. Maybe start with a baseline of Deshaun Stevenson with more offense and go from there... Have to think about it but his defensive ability is known by scouts. You see it often mentioned in Write-ups. If he manages to show more playmaking and cut down on the to's that would help his stock a ton
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Post by nychoya3 on Dec 19, 2016 14:31:01 GMT -5
He's a little small for a SG but not terrible, and he has a very long wingspan. I suck at comparisons, but I think teams will like the motor, driving, ability to draw fouls, and the pace of his improvement as a shooter and playmaker. He's not going to be a lottery pick or anything, but he definitely has a good shot at the NBA I think.
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Post by HometownHoya on Dec 19, 2016 14:40:49 GMT -5
He's clearly the next Dwayne Wade.
Mostly kidding but their skills and numbers are similar. DWade was a much better passer though and LJ is shooting from deep better this year.
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 19, 2016 15:28:17 GMT -5
www.hoopsrumors.com/2016/07/2016-nba-draft-pick-signings.htmlAccording to this site a decent amount of early 2nd rounders got guaranteed contracts for good money too.. He's 20 now but in less than 2 months he'll be 21 which means he'll be 22 for the 2018 draft if he waits.. To me LJ will at least declare so he can workout for teams, chances are high that he'll get good feedback.. That's individual teams doing that not a pre draft guarantee based on draft position. Totally different things. He should absolutely test the waters but 22 isn't exactly old for the draft either. We all thought Ben Bentil was a pro, he got drafted second round and is playing in China right now. So it could work out it could not. I'm sure he will weigh his options regardless, as he should... Understood but most early 2nd round kids get the guaranteed contracts right? At least I'd asume that to be true.. 22 isn't old but it's a ways from 19 which some of his fellow draftees could be.. It could be a factor especially for agents trying to sign him.. Seems to me Bentil believed the hype more than the gms seeing that he went 51st.. I don't see why he can't be compared to Wade Baldwin from Vandy..
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Post by TBird41 on Dec 19, 2016 15:38:55 GMT -5
He's clearly the next Dwayne Wade. Mostly kidding but their skills and numbers are similar. DWade was a much better passer though and LJ is shooting from deep better this year. DWade was so good as a junior. 21.5 ppg, 6.3rpg, 4.4 apg, 2.2 steals, 1.3 blocks and shot 50.1% from the floor (although only 31.8% from a shorter three point line). Peak's obviously not DWade, but if you squint you can see the similarities in their stats.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Dec 19, 2016 15:44:56 GMT -5
Peak, I say come on back and be a lottery pick next year.
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Post by bostonfan on Dec 19, 2016 15:57:12 GMT -5
I think he would be making a mistake not to at least do the work outs with the teams and see what he gets for feedback. The way he is playing now I would think he will get drafted, just depends where. If he can get guaranteed money from the NBA to play a game he loves, then no one could ever blame him for taking it.
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Post by jester on Dec 19, 2016 16:02:52 GMT -5
Not trying to be naysayer, but what's a good NBA comp for LJ? To me I'm little suspicious that his handles and passing aren't good enough for being an NBA pg, but he's a little small for SG and he wouldn't be able to drive as easily in the NBA. There might be plenty of comps, it's just that we haven't really had a player like him. Agreed, which means even with a draft spot it will be an uphill battle. Wade Baldwin is a bit better passer. I would say in todays NBA he would be somewhere in Rodney McGruder/Norman Powell/Dion Waiters mold - I think LJ still needs a bit better handle.
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