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Post by Ranch Dressing on Dec 9, 2015 12:16:51 GMT -5
Couldn't disagree more. Radford happened. Maryland last 6 minutes happened. Syracuse last 10 minutes happened. Brown second half happened. I would hope the coaching staff walked in hot Tuesday afternoon at practice. This team will break our hearts with lapses in effort and discipline. Have to keep fighting to improve. Enjoy the Brown win? Never heard anything more silly. This team needs to find the eye of the tiger. Sheesh. I wonder how things play out in your mind. Do you imagine that III walks into the first practice after Brown, or Radford, or whatever, and just says "hey great job guys! Let's all skip practice today--Ben and Jerry's sundaes are on me!" You really think the coaching staff doesn't look at what happened in any of those games and works with the team to improve? Or is it just us highly knowledgeable keyboard warriors that are keeping them honest? Give me a break. The best team in all of basketball (possibly the best team of all time) nearly let a mediocre Pacers team come back from 30+ down. Guess what, when you're up big and you are trying to get younger players minutes, and are trying out different lineups, mistakes and lapses will happen. I'll say it again: the FREAKING WARRIORS HAD LAPSES LAST NIGHT. It happens, and it definitely happens with college players. Get over it and stop acting like you're so tough and would never ever ever ever lose focus if you were one of the players or coaches, because no one but you believes it. Nice job Hoyas, keep improving, and on to the next game. This sounds like a response from a guy who will be pleased as punch with a 19-12 record this season.
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Post by guru on Dec 9, 2015 12:18:36 GMT -5
Couldn't disagree more. Radford happened. Maryland last 6 minutes happened. Syracuse last 10 minutes happened. Brown second half happened. I would hope the coaching staff walked in hot Tuesday afternoon at practice. This team will break our hearts with lapses in effort and discipline. Have to keep fighting to improve. Enjoy the Brown win? Never heard anything more silly. This team needs to find the eye of the tiger. It's cute when you act like we are on the coaching staff. Though patently obnoxious, and likely applicable to 95% of the posts on this board, I enjoyed this rejoinder very much. Especially in response to a poster advocating not enjoying a win.
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Post by swhoya on Dec 9, 2015 12:19:59 GMT -5
Sheesh. I wonder how things play out in your mind. Do you imagine that III walks into the first practice after Brown, or Radford, or whatever, and just says "hey great job guys! Let's all skip practice today--Ben and Jerry's sundaes are on me!" You really think the coaching staff doesn't look at what happened in any of those games and works with the team to improve? Or is it just us highly knowledgeable keyboard warriors that are keeping them honest? Give me a break. The best team in all of basketball (possibly the best team of all time) nearly let a mediocre Pacers team come back from 30+ down. Guess what, when you're up big and you are trying to get younger players minutes, and are trying out different lineups, mistakes and lapses will happen. I'll say it again: the FREAKING WARRIORS HAD LAPSES LAST NIGHT. It happens, and it definitely happens with college players. Get over it and stop acting like you're so tough and would never ever ever ever lose focus if you were one of the players or coaches, because no one but you believes it. Nice job Hoyas, keep improving, and on to the next game. This sounds like a response from a guy who will be pleased as punch with a 19-12 record this season. Nope, just a guy that has a grasp on reality and realizes that coaches and college players aren't perfect. And one who knows when to enjoy winning instead of puffing yourself up to look tough. And way to avoid the point that the Warriors, a team of highly compensated, extraordinarily talented players did the same thing. But you keep pounding your chest and telling yourself how great you'd be as a coach.
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Post by rockhoya on Dec 9, 2015 12:27:06 GMT -5
It's cute when you act like we are on the coaching staff. Though patently obnoxious, and likely applicable to 95% of the posts on this board, I enjoyed this rejoinder very much. Especially in response to a poster advocating not enjoying a win. Getting excited about a win over brown is akin to getting excited about a participation badge. Keep expecting and accepting mediocrity and you will get mediocrity.
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Post by Cambridge on Dec 9, 2015 12:28:09 GMT -5
It's cute when you act like we are on the coaching staff. You seem content with repeated demonstrations of in-game complacency and lapses of judgment. I guess you have different expectations than me this season. I think this team can be quite good if it can match its athleticism and depth with consistent intensity and attention to detail. I am capable of celebrating their victories and expecting them to improve. I, however, expect lapses in judgment from an almost unprecedented (for Georgetown) 10-11 man rotation on an incredibly young and relatively inexperienced roster that consists of 3 freshman, 5 sophomores, 1 junior (former reserve player), and 3 seniors (only 1 of which has ever played significant minutes for the team prior to this year). We have never been so deep with offensive talent and they have shown marked improvement over the last two games on the defensive end. Is there room to improve? Of course, and that's the scariest part about this team. I expect to see them improve, especially on the defensive end, as the season progresses. Games like Brown were not only successful from a results point of view (we won), but the experimentation with various lineups both from a coaching and player standpoint could play huge dividends down the line. So, I reject the doom and gloom, and focus on the positives. Besides, it's way more fun.
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Post by rockhoya on Dec 9, 2015 12:28:28 GMT -5
This sounds like a response from a guy who will be pleased as punch with a 19-12 record this season. Nope, just a guy that has a grasp on reality and realizes that coaches and college players aren't perfect. And one who knows when to enjoy winning instead of puffing yourself up to look tough. And way to avoid the point that the Warriors, a team of highly compensated, extraordinarily talented players did the same thing. But you keep pounding your chest and telling yourself how great you'd be as a coach. And the Pacers are supposed to be.....Brown in this situation?
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Post by guru on Dec 9, 2015 12:30:05 GMT -5
Though patently obnoxious, and likely applicable to 95% of the posts on this board, I enjoyed this rejoinder very much. Especially in response to a poster advocating not enjoying a win. Getting excited about a win over brown is akin to getting excited about a participation badge. Keep expecting and accepting mediocrity and you will get mediocrity. What an incredibly obtuse post.
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Post by swhoya on Dec 9, 2015 12:30:17 GMT -5
Though patently obnoxious, and likely applicable to 95% of the posts on this board, I enjoyed this rejoinder very much. Especially in response to a poster advocating not enjoying a win. Getting excited about a win over brown is akin to getting excited about a participate badge. Keep expecting and accepting mediocrity and you will get mediocrity. You seem to miss the difference between enjoying a win and getting excited about a win. I'd guess all of us both enjoyed and got excited about the win over Syracuse. Most of us enjoyed the win over Brown, but I doubt many got excited about it (possibly certain aspects of it, but not all of it). I have no problem with saying there are things we should improve on. I'm just tired of posters that focus only on the bad and act like none of the good happened, or have the unreasonable expectation that we're going to be perfect all the time.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Dec 9, 2015 12:39:26 GMT -5
I admit I was very excited after the Brown win. Bryant and UMES too.
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Post by blueeagle on Dec 9, 2015 12:49:20 GMT -5
And the "Culture of Excellence" badge goes to...
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Post by aleutianhoya on Dec 9, 2015 13:49:39 GMT -5
Firstly, there's no connection between this game and our postseason "failures," as was written earlier in the thread. That's asinine. We obliterated a bad team in the first half and coasted to victory while playing odd lineups (including our senior star not playing the final 12 minutes). May all of our postseason games resemble that!
More broadly, after every game, you look at both the good and the bad, and you try to use both as a means to get the team to improve. It's a myth, by the way, as any good coach will tell you, that you only use the bad. Just as useful is showing the team all the good things that happened and showing the correlation between them and success. The teaching points may be different (or similar) every game. But the analysis is the same.
So, the first half of Brown, presumably, will be used as a teaching tool for our first-team guys about how to correctly come out of the gates and jump on an overmatched team. And the second half, presumably, will be used in a number of ways: (1) perhaps as some level of motivation given that we "lost" the second half (though I think that would fall flat with the team); (2) probably to talk about defensive positioning and communication, since there were some breakdown; and, most importantly (3) as a means for the staff to privately analyze the utility of certain lineup combinations.
None of those is mutually exclusive. I'm sure there'll be a bit of (1) that goes on even though the staff knows that much of the struggles were due to other issues
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Dec 9, 2015 14:07:01 GMT -5
Keep in mind that part of the reason why huge leads get built is generally because at least one of the teams is performing either unrealistically poor or unrealistically well. For example, part of the reason for the huge halftime lead against Brown was that they truly shot horribly. I mean, go back and watch the first half - to me, Brown's performance that half is among the worst I have seen against Georgetown in the last 4-5 years. They were truly putrid.
The reason why big leads like that tend to diminish the more you play is because those things even out. You might go 1/11 from three in one half, but you're generally not going to repeat that in the second half. Or, if a team shoots lights out (for example, let's say 60%+), it's highly unlikely they are going to do that in the second half, too.
That's not to say it never happens, but when one team (like Brown) performs abnormally badly, it shouldn't come as a surprise when they eventually perform better. Again, I think there's plenty to criticize about our performance in the second half, and I think the staff will address those concerns, but everything needs proper context.
Similarly, if the coaching staff's approach was to always point out what went wrong, that would do wonders for morale.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 14:08:32 GMT -5
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Dec 9, 2015 15:30:05 GMT -5
And the "Culture of Excellence" badge goes to... Me?!? Attachments:
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Post by blueeagle on Dec 9, 2015 18:04:58 GMT -5
Bradley Hayes... The correct answer was Bradley Hayes.
Nice pic, though.
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Post by HometownHoya on Dec 9, 2015 20:10:52 GMT -5
So I asked this around halftime of the game, but when was the last time the Hoyas have tripled up on a team in the first half?
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