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Post by Nevada Hoya on Sept 9, 2015 13:06:46 GMT -5
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Sept 9, 2015 20:39:46 GMT -5
Pathetic showing by the other Big East schools.
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Post by happyhoya1979 on Sept 9, 2015 21:42:23 GMT -5
The Big East is an academic slum and this hurts our university's image.
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Post by kchoya on Sept 9, 2015 22:29:40 GMT -5
The Big East is an academic slum and this hurts our university's image. Not true at all. What a dumb post.
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Post by Just Cos on Sept 9, 2015 23:40:05 GMT -5
The Big East is an academic slum and this hurts our university's image. Assuming this is sarcasm
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Post by Jack on Sept 10, 2015 9:42:34 GMT -5
The Big East is an academic slum and this hurts our university's image. Assuming this is sarcasm It's not a solo opinion - I don't agree, but I know at least one long-time university administrator who believes the current version of the Big East is damaging to Georgetown's academic brand. What I have not heard is how it is fundamentally different than the former Big East in that regard - only Notre Dame and perhaps Boston College would have been considered academic peers in any version of the conference GU has called home for the past 35 years. I guess the theory was that at least some of the other FBS schools were major research universities, although not usually considered among the top tier of that category. As for where Georgetown could reside and have academic and athletic peers, the answer seems to be some sort of "join the ACC" plan, but the mechanics for that plan are about as specific as how Donald Trump plans to carry out foreign policy.
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Post by blueeagle on Sept 10, 2015 11:39:08 GMT -5
Vanderbilt seems to be doing OK in the SEC. Talk about slumming it.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Sept 10, 2015 13:12:35 GMT -5
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Post by flyoverhoya on Sept 14, 2015 12:31:48 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Sept 13, 2016 19:08:35 GMT -5
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Post by Problem of Dog on Sept 14, 2016 14:36:16 GMT -5
One spot above USC, tied with Emory, below Wash U, Rice, Notre Dame, and Vandy.
At least the brand carries more weight than many of the others listed above/with us.
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Post by kchoya on Sept 15, 2016 0:02:16 GMT -5
One spot above USC, tied with Emory, below Wash U, Rice, Notre Dame, and Vandy. At least the brand carries more weight than many of the others listed above/with us. Wash U proves this list is a joke.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Sept 15, 2016 14:38:35 GMT -5
Wash U was accused of gaming the system by soliciting unqualified students to decrease their acceptance rate. Not sure what came of it. The schools referenced above may have larger endowments, but that's it.
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Post by boxout05 on Sept 16, 2016 21:06:08 GMT -5
Someone once told me WUSTL was best know for being the first university to become highly regarded by tellling everyone they were highly regarded. That stuck with me. The fact they then got caught gaming the system figures, just like WG.
More interesting was Nova ranked as the 50th National University. They had always been characterized as a Regional University (usually #1 or #2 in the Northeast). I imagine someone got a big raise because of that.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Sept 17, 2016 12:45:33 GMT -5
Someone once told me WUSTL was best know for being the first university to become highly regarded by tellling everyone they were highly regarded. That stuck with me. The fact they then got caught gaming the system figures, just like WG. More interesting was Nova ranked as the 50th National University. They had always been characterized as a Regional University (usually #1 or #2 in the Northeast). I imagine someone got a big raise because of that. Yea, within admissions circles, WashU was notorious for targeting advertising at a broad swath of applicants who stood zero chance of acceptance, up to and including sending them pre-filled out applications with things like name, address, school, etc. They have also been accused of denying 'over-qualified' applicants who they assumed were using them as a safety in order to further lower their admissions rate and also gin up the impression that they're more selective than they are. Proof for the latter is more anecdotal than anything, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least bit. The national/regional distinction is supposed to be at least partly based on the scope of your graduate programs, which I know Villanova has been adding and expanding. I guess they crossed a threshold of some sort?
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Sept 17, 2016 21:52:17 GMT -5
The USN&WR high school counselor rankings seem more accurate.
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Post by boxout05 on Sept 18, 2016 12:30:17 GMT -5
Someone once told me WUSTL was best know for being the first university to become highly regarded by tellling everyone they were highly regarded. That stuck with me. The fact they then got caught gaming the system figures, just like WG. More interesting was Nova ranked as the 50th National University. They had always been characterized as a Regional University (usually #1 or #2 in the Northeast). I imagine someone got a big raise because of that. Yea, within admissions circles, WashU was notorious for targeting advertising at a broad swath of applicants who stood zero chance of acceptance, up to and including sending them pre-filled out applications with things like name, address, school, etc. They have also been accused of denying 'over-qualified' applicants who they assumed were using them as a safety in order to further lower their admissions rate and also gin up the impression that they're more selective than they are. Proof for the latter is more anecdotal than anything, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least bit. The national/regional distinction is supposed to be at least partly based on the scope of your graduate programs, which I know Villanova has been adding and expanding. I guess they crossed a threshold of some sort? Correct. National Universities offer an array of Undergrad, Masters, and Doctoral courses, whereas Regional Universities focus on only Undergrad and Masters, not Doctoral.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Oct 5, 2016 0:07:35 GMT -5
Someone once told me WUSTL was best know for being the first university to become highly regarded by tellling everyone they were highly regarded. That stuck with me. The fact they then got caught gaming the system figures, just like WG. More interesting was Nova ranked as the 50th National University. They had always been characterized as a Regional University (usually #1 or #2 in the Northeast). I imagine someone got a big raise because of that. Yea, within admissions circles, WashU was notorious for targeting advertising at a broad swath of applicants who stood zero chance of acceptance, up to and including sending them pre-filled out applications with things like name, address, school, etc. They have also been accused of denying 'over-qualified' applicants who they assumed were using them as a safety in order to further lower their admissions rate and also gin up the impression that they're more selective than they are. Proof for the latter is more anecdotal than anything, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least bit. The national/regional distinction is supposed to be at least partly based on the scope of your graduate programs, which I know Villanova has been adding and expanding. I guess they crossed a threshold of some sort? I can confirm the latter. One high school classmate who got into Princeton was waitlisted at WUSTL, while three or four much less qualified applicants got in right off the bat.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 9, 2016 7:30:41 GMT -5
I read an article last week which detailed how a school in Saudi Arabia gamed the USN&WR algorithm to achieve a high rating in a global category. The school fared better than many prestigious US universities. One way they did this was to hire professors that were ranked higher in a database and would be accretive to their score. The piece also mentioned how the gamers benefited as it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Top professors and top high school students are drawn to highly ranked institutions.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Aug 17, 2017 11:31:34 GMT -5
GU comes in at #21 in latest Forbes ranking. Good showing as this list includes liberal arts colleges.
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