SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 23, 2018 16:12:47 GMT -5
So now it’s confirmed, as a matter of legal record, that President Donald Trump organized a scheme to violate federal election laws. He directed his longtime personal attorney to pay at least one woman for silence. That attorney got the money by lying to a bank to get a home-equity line of credit. It’s a matter of legal record, too, that Trump’s campaign chair was a huge-scale crook. Despite his desperate financial straits, he volunteered to work for Trump for free—and Trump accepted. www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/the-president-is-a-crook/568123/
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aristides
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Post by aristides on Aug 23, 2018 16:26:26 GMT -5
Of course it’s still working for them. The racism is the agenda Ed and the rest support. There was a sign at a march that read, "Not everyone who voted for Trump is racist, but they all decided that racism wasn't a deal breaker". Kind of sums up my feelings on Trump supporters.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 18:36:17 GMT -5
It certainly appears Trump had a lot of help to secure a narrow victory of 70,000 votes across three states... Of course, as Republicans like to say- none of this would have had an effect on voters. That's why they worked so hard to hide it from the voting public...
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Post by tashoya on Aug 23, 2018 22:46:45 GMT -5
She wasn't a worse candidate if only in the sense that, at least in part, Trump's presidency was foreseeable if one wasn't so blinded by hatred for Hillary to actually take into account Trump's past. He's really not doing anything now that he hadn't done in the past on a much smaller scale. And that is my point. All of his antics were entirely predictable based upon his past and she still lost to him. At the end of the day she was so awful a candidate that she lost to a wholly unqualified carnival barker. That wasn't what I was saying. IMO, some were blinded (and continue to be) by their, somewhat irrational, hate of her or what they believed she represented in comparison to the person for whom they cast a vote. Taking an objective look at the two people, one is far more reprehensible, less qualified and stands for far less that is remotely admirable and it wasn't that difficult to see in November of 2016. Add in the hate, and the scales tip for some.
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Post by Elvado on Aug 24, 2018 4:18:29 GMT -5
And that is my point. All of his antics were entirely predictable based upon his past and she still lost to him. At the end of the day she was so awful a candidate that she lost to a wholly unqualified carnival barker. That wasn't what I was saying. IMO, some were blinded (and continue to be) by their, somewhat irrational, hate of her or what they believed she represented in comparison to the person for whom they cast a vote. Taking an objective look at the two people, one is far more reprehensible, less qualified and stands for far less that is remotely admirable and it wasn't that difficult to see in November of 2016. Add in the hate, and the scales tip for some. All true. But if she were not such a hideous candidate, she wins that race in a walk. Many of her own chickens came home to roost that night. Her condescension, her smug sense of entitlement to the job,her bashing of women that her husband had mistreated, her duplicity, to name a few. She was better qualified, had the resume and had an Electoral map that most candidates would die for. Yet she lost to a clown because she was personally unacceptable to so many people that otherwise would have voted for her.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 24, 2018 5:17:51 GMT -5
In the course of Michael Cohen’s guilty plea this week, a lawyer close to the president has admitted his part in a high-level cover-up, including the use of hush money, designed to influence the 2016 election. And he accused President Trump of directing this violation. This is different from our daily dose of the president’s outrageous tweets and attacks. It is an inflection point in the Trump presidency. He has been credibly accused, not of violating civic norms, but of personal involvement in criminal law-breaking. If Trump were not the president, he might well be indicted, convicted and face jail time. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-cancer-on-the-presidency/2018/08/23/e0b7fad4-a710-11e8-97ce-cc9042272f07_story.html?utm_term=.9b0646d81d2cAs the news was confirmed, I’m sure many people shared a similar sense that our legal system had worked — that it had surmounted its first big challenge in containing a lawless and defiant president. This story still has a very long way to go, but if Cohen hadn’t made his plea agreement, and if the Manafort jury hadn’t agreed to convict on some counts, our national narrative would today be headed in a different direction. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/last-chance-republicans/2018/08/23/5c2fc152-a6f7-11e8-a656-943eefab5daf_story.html?utm_term=.7989ada5adeb
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 9:51:03 GMT -5
That wasn't what I was saying. IMO, some were blinded (and continue to be) by their, somewhat irrational, hate of her or what they believed she represented in comparison to the person for whom they cast a vote. Taking an objective look at the two people, one is far more reprehensible, less qualified and stands for far less that is remotely admirable and it wasn't that difficult to see in November of 2016. Add in the hate, and the scales tip for some. All true. But if she were not such a hideous candidate, she wins that race in a walk. Many of her own chickens came home to roost that night. Her condescension, her smug sense of entitlement to the job,her bashing of women that her husband had mistreated, her duplicity, to name a few. She was better qualified, had the resume and had an Electoral map that most candidates would die for. Yet she lost to a clown because she was personally unacceptable to so many people that otherwise would have voted for her. She was such a bad candidate Trump had to cheat to win... The same guy that said if we vote for Hillary we own every move she makes is blaming Hillary for forcing Republicans to vote Trump. The Party of personal responsibility strikes again. Hillary's had plenty of flaws but this argument also ignores the fact Trump beat about 46 Republicans to win the nomination. None of them were in spitting distance of him. The funniest part of this tap dance where you claim not to support Trump but defend his most outrageous policies, actions, and ignore him being guilty of the same things you've accused others of...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 9:52:08 GMT -5
Sucks....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 10:17:15 GMT -5
Said a few months ago he would be making a special guest appearance.... Not good... Actually... Really... Really.. bad..
After he was elected, Trump gave control of his assets and business interests to Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump and....Allen Weisselberg.
Trump to Fox: "flipping almost ought to be illegal. 30-40 years I've been watching flippers"
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 24, 2018 10:32:04 GMT -5
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Aug 24, 2018 11:22:37 GMT -5
All true. But if she were not such a hideous candidate, she wins that race in a walk. Many of her own chickens came home to roost that night. Her condescension, her smug sense of entitlement to the job,her bashing of women that her husband had mistreated, her duplicity, to name a few. She was better qualified, had the resume and had an Electoral map that most candidates would die for. Yet she lost to a clown because she was personally unacceptable to so many people that otherwise would have voted for her. She was such a bad candidate Trump had to cheat to win... The same guy that said if we vote for Hillary we own every move she makes is blaming Hillary for forcing Republicans to vote Trump. The Party of personal responsibility strikes again. Hillary's had plenty of flaws but this argument also ignores the fact Trump beat about 46 Republicans to win the nomination. None of them were in spitting distance of him. The funniest part of this tap dance where you claim not to support Trump but defend his most outrageous policies, actions, and ignore him being guilty of the same things you've accused others of... [ Those who voted for Trump own every bit of his garbage. I am not among them. I do not support him. I barely tolerate him. That said my decades old antipathy toward Hillary and my lifelong aversion to phony liberal crap makes watching this circus somewhat fun for me. Watching the liberals rail about Trump cheating after the DNC gang-banged Bernie In the primaries is high comedy to me. Listening to Liz Warren rail about income inequality is equally funny.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 12:21:29 GMT -5
She was such a bad candidate Trump had to cheat to win... The same guy that said if we vote for Hillary we own every move she makes is blaming Hillary for forcing Republicans to vote Trump. The Party of personal responsibility strikes again. Hillary's had plenty of flaws but this argument also ignores the fact Trump beat about 46 Republicans to win the nomination. None of them were in spitting distance of him. The funniest part of this tap dance where you claim not to support Trump but defend his most outrageous policies, actions, and ignore him being guilty of the same things you've accused others of... [ Those who voted for Trump own every bit of his garbage. I am not among them. I do not support him. I barely tolerate him. That said my decades old antipathy toward Hillary and my lifelong aversion to phony liberal crap makes watching this circus somewhat fun for me. Watching the liberals rail about Trump cheating after the DNC gang-banged Bernie In the primaries is high comedy to me. Listening to Liz Warren rail about income inequality is equally funny. You're so full of it... lol.. You are the most Trumpian poster here. You defend him more than anyone else. Of course you voted for your twin. On a side note- YOU, didn't predict any of this. YOU, spent the whole election downplaying and justifying almost everything he did. SS, Spirit, Cam, TC, Tash, Etomic, others, etc did. Literally everyone except for you, KC, Ed, and Rich Fame predicted this. It's cool, whatever, but when you get called out you just blurt out some weird conspiracy theory like those last two sentences... Lol.. Instead of chasing the next conspiracy theory, chase being consistent in what you stand for. You should be old enough to know- What makes you laugh today can make you cry tomorrow. Life isn't a giant troll..
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Post by Elvado on Aug 24, 2018 12:25:40 GMT -5
Must be nice to always be right.
I take your last sentence to mean you are okay with the Bernie rape and the hypocrisy of Mrs . Warren. Good for you. You are nothing if not consistent in your supine acceptance of what the Left throws you.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 24, 2018 12:27:52 GMT -5
Wonder if Trump will tweet after McCain passes: "I like Senators who don't get brain cancer. WEAK!" That's how evil and soulless I think Trump is. And you Trump supporters own it. Remember Trump's WH flunky? "He's dead anyway."
Trump = chickenhawk-in-chief like so many of his GOP hypocrites and supporters. I'm sure there are some on Hoya Talk.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 12:28:57 GMT -5
1500 dead in Puerto Rico- Hilarious
500 kids orphaned by our Government- LOL's
These things have real life consequences that go beyond you getting some twisted form of amusement out of it...
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 24, 2018 12:45:15 GMT -5
Trump tweets that Pompeo trip to North Korea canceled. Are we tired of so much winning yet? I could have sworn Trunp tweeted weeks ago that the NK nuclear threat was OVER?? Only the sucker Trump supporters were conned by the grifter-in-chief. And Trump gave Kim his propaganda victory. Trump = Chump.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Aug 24, 2018 12:47:51 GMT -5
1500 dead in Puerto Rico- Hilarious 500 kids orphaned by our Government- LOL's These things have real life consequences that go beyond you getting some twisted form of amusement out of it... Orphaned? Hyperbole much? Kumbaya my friend. Kumbaya.
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Post by TC on Aug 24, 2018 12:52:56 GMT -5
YOU, didn't predict any of this. YOU, spent the whole election downplaying and justifying almost everything he did. SS, Spirit, Cam, TC, Tash, Etomic, others, etc did. Literally everyone except for you, KC, Ed, and Rich Fame predicted this. It's cool, whatever, but when you get called out you just blurt out some weird conspiracy theory like those last two sentences... Lol.. Instead of chasing the next conspiracy theory, chase being consistent in what you stand for. Say what you want about KC and richfame but neither of them are trolling us with BS while at the same time denying they supported Trump at all. I've been saying this for a year now - there is no way a guy that is this partisan, that spouts links from Gateway Pundit, that spends this much time and energy trolling a message board, *IN PENNSYLVANIA, the key swing state of the 2016 election* voted for anyone other than Trump. If the Elvados of the world had voted for someone else in PA/MI/WI, Trump would not be President. They all voted for him. He just wants to deny it so that he doesn't have to defend any of this stuff and can't be tied down to any single position. Just like Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 12:53:05 GMT -5
1500 dead in Puerto Rico- Hilarious 500 kids orphaned by our Government- LOL's These things have real life consequences that go beyond you getting some twisted form of amusement out of it... Orphaned? Hyperbole much? Kumbaya my friend. Kumbaya. Pretty hypocritical for you on any day, but especially when who just callously tossed out the word "rape" to describe god knows what to whine about hyperbole. Whatever term you're comfortable with, but what happened to those children is not amusing. That's the bottom line... You started a thread that basically said"scoreboard!" defending it. What? It's stunning sometimes to think there's an adult behind that keyboard.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Aug 24, 2018 12:55:41 GMT -5
Orphaned? Hyperbole much? Kumbaya my friend. Kumbaya. Pretty hypocritical for you on any day, but especially when who just callously tossed out the word "rape" to describe god knows what to whine about hyperbole. Whatever term you're comfortable with what happened to those children is not amusing. That's the bottom line... It's stunning sometimes to think there's an adult behind that keyboard Right back at you Junior. As Churchill said, if you are under 30 and conservative you have no heart and if you are over 30 and liberal you have no brain. Always liked Churchill..
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