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Post by Elvado on Apr 30, 2018 7:52:13 GMT -5
Or maybe they're just now realizing he doesn't know how to work a scale. Can’t be that because the genius who used to occupy the White House would have figured that out...
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Post by TC on Apr 30, 2018 12:19:54 GMT -5
I know nothing about this guy one way or the other. But before the posts start rolling in about how unethical Republicans are to have nominated this guy, a few quotes: “Ronny’s positive impact cannot be overstated. He is a tremendous asset to the entire White House team. Already at a level of performance and responsibility that far exceeds is current rank, promote to Rear Admiral now.” - Then-President Obama "I knew Dr. Ronny Jackson in the White House. In my experience, he was very good guy and straight shooter." - David Axelrod, January 2018 "there is no one better than ronny. no one. he is a saint and patriot." - Alyssa Mastromonaco, Obama's White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations, January 2018 "True dat" - Susan Rice, January 2018 They all liked this guy from their experiences with him as a Doctor. The Rice and Mastromonaco quotes are defending him with the backlash from the Trump physical in January. None of them suggested that he run the VA, and that's where your defense completely falls apart. The Porter case shows that they're completely ignoring background checks.
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Post by DallasHoya on Apr 30, 2018 13:04:39 GMT -5
I know nothing about this guy one way or the other. But before the posts start rolling in about how unethical Republicans are to have nominated this guy, a few quotes: “Ronny’s positive impact cannot be overstated. He is a tremendous asset to the entire White House team. Already at a level of performance and responsibility that far exceeds is current rank, promote to Rear Admiral now.” - Then-President Obama "I knew Dr. Ronny Jackson in the White House. In my experience, he was very good guy and straight shooter." - David Axelrod, January 2018 "there is no one better than ronny. no one. he is a saint and patriot." - Alyssa Mastromonaco, Obama's White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations, January 2018 "True dat" - Susan Rice, January 2018 They all liked this guy from their experiences with him as a Doctor. The Rice and Mastromonaco quotes are defending him with the backlash from the Trump physical in January. None of them suggested that he run the VA, and that's where your defense completely falls apart. The Porter case shows that they're completely ignoring background checks. I wasn't defending him or the nomination. I guess Obama ignored his background, too, when he wanted to promote him. If the Korea situation gets settled, I hope Trump gets the Nobel Peace Prize for no other reason than it will cause a few heads on this board to explode.
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Post by Elvado on Apr 30, 2018 13:30:59 GMT -5
They all liked this guy from their experiences with him as a Doctor. The Rice and Mastromonaco quotes are defending him with the backlash from the Trump physical in January. None of them suggested that he run the VA, and that's where your defense completely falls apart. The Porter case shows that they're completely ignoring background checks. I wasn't defending him or the nomination. I guess Obama ignored his background, too, when he wanted to promote him. If the Korea situation gets settled, I hope Trump gets the Nobel Peace Prize for no other reason than it will cause a few heads on this board to explode. People have won it for less...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 13:56:24 GMT -5
They all liked this guy from their experiences with him as a Doctor. The Rice and Mastromonaco quotes are defending him with the backlash from the Trump physical in January. None of them suggested that he run the VA, and that's where your defense completely falls apart. The Porter case shows that they're completely ignoring background checks. I wasn't defending him or the nomination. I guess Obama ignored his background, too, when he wanted to promote him. If the Korea situation gets settled, I hope Trump gets the Nobel Peace Prize for no other reason than it will cause a few heads on this board to explode. *Extreme Vetting The point is a guy who hands out meds like cotton candy probably shouldn't run the VA. You can excuse a person or two slipping in between the cracks but how many people have been fired or had their nomination scuttled because this administration hasn't done any sort of vetting at all? Over 40? Since your new schtick seems to be this both sides thing, take that number and then compare it to any President in recent history, and let us know if the criticism is fair or not...
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Post by DallasHoya on Apr 30, 2018 14:50:17 GMT -5
I wasn't defending him or the nomination. I guess Obama ignored his background, too, when he wanted to promote him. If the Korea situation gets settled, I hope Trump gets the Nobel Peace Prize for no other reason than it will cause a few heads on this board to explode. *Extreme Vetting The point is a guy who hands out meds like cotton candy probably shouldn't run the VA. You can excuse a person or two slipping in between the cracks but how many people have been fired or had their nomination scuttled because this administration hasn't done any sort of vetting at all? Over 40? Since your new schtick seems to be this both sides thing, take that number and then compare it to any President in recent history, and let us know if the criticism is fair or not... A guy who hands out meds like cotton candy ought not to be the President's physician, either, nor be praised as such as senior democrats did. The criticism of Trump not vetting nominees is not only justified, it's well-deserved. As I've said before, Trump has no idea whatsoever how run a large organization, never has and never will. I'll give Obama credit - he had no experience either, but for the most part he hired competent people to run things the way he wanted them run.
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Post by TC on Apr 30, 2018 14:52:54 GMT -5
I wasn't defending him or the nomination. I guess Obama ignored his background, too, when he wanted to promote him. Is it normal to do background checks when suggesting military promotions? Serious question, I don't know the answer to that - but you are suggesting that Obama (a) did a background check and (b) ignored the results, and that smells like absolute nonsense to me. It is normal to do background checks prior to nominating someone for cabinet-level positions though. And then you're suggesting Trump should get a Nobel for no reason other than to own the libs. Good takes.
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 30, 2018 16:21:47 GMT -5
I wasn't defending him or the nomination. I guess Obama ignored his background, too, when he wanted to promote him. Is it normal to do background checks when suggesting military promotions? Serious question, I don't know the answer to that - but you are suggesting that Obama (a) did a background check and (b) ignored the results, and that smells like absolute nonsense to me. It is normal to do background checks prior to nominating someone for cabinet-level positions though. And then you're suggesting Trump should get a Nobel for no reason other than to own the libs. Good takes. Former Navy officer here who didn't make it past LCDR (0-4) in the Naval Reserve before heading for civilian life. And no, the President/FBI do not conduct the standard background check as one would conduct for a civilian political appointment. Theoretically, a promotion board vets an officer (background and character) every time he is on the promotion list and should have the officer's complete service record and FITREPS for review. I guess no one read my "kiss up, kick down" scenario. This would be especially true for a small military unit assigned under a civilian command which has very little understanding of military culture -- Obama, Axelrod, et al. I would not expect the issues that may have visited Jackson's command of WHMU to have reached Obama and/or his Chief of Staff as long as he was kissing up and giving good service to those civilian superiors. The process for attaining flag rang is mostly conducted by the individual service. I assume that Obama nominated Jackson for promotion to flag rank as a one star (RADML Lower Half) and his subsequent promotion to two star, and that Jackson was a CAPT (0-6) during his tenure as Bush II's personal physician. The Senate must approve ALL officer promotions (including mine believe it or not to LTJG, LT and LCDR but those lists sent to the Senate and are pro forma) and a hold may be placed on any approval if adverse information is discovered by the Senate. I was the attorney for a CDR (0-5) who was on the promotion list to CAPT when adverse information came to light and his promotion was put on hold by the Senate. His legal circumstances became problematic and he was never promoted. Are selection boards perfect? Obviously not since there are enough stories of flag rank officers who are later discovered to have engaged in a long pattern of harassment/misconduct, see e.g., the Fat Leonard scandal. Under Article 138 of the UCMJ there are methods for raising complaints outside the chain of command but as with any "whistleblower" type complaint it takes cojones to do so and your immediate CO is going to know about it. www.public.navy.mil/surfor/cnspig/Documents/Article_138_Complaint_of_Wrongs_Against_the_Commanding_Officer.pdfPromotion to Rear Admiral Lower Half is an extremely selective process, as the Navy can have only 160 active-duty flag officers at any given time. Eligible candidates, chosen from among the senior commissioned officers, are screened and recommended for promotion by a sitting board of currently active flag officers.This list must be approved by the Secretary of the Navy, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Secretary of Defense before the final choice is made from the list of eligible candidates by the President of the United States. After nomination by the President, candidates must be approved by the U.S. Senate by majority vote before being approved for promotion upon assumption of their new duties. By tradition, all active flag officers welcome and congratulate newly confirmed flag officers with a personal letter following their promotion. One-star flag officers generally serve for a tour of three to four years, and a variety of mandates apply to admirals' retirement from the Navy. One-star officers must retire after five years in-grade or 30 years of total service unless reappointed All flag officers must retire one month after their 64th birthday Flag officers can have their retirement deferred to their 66th birthday by the Secretary of Defense, and to their 68th birthday by the President All flag officers receive their grade permanently, which allows them to retain their paygrade and title after their tour has ended and after retirement. Most admirals retire well before their mandatory retirement date to allow other officers the chance to fill their position. www.military-ranks.org/navy/rear-admiral-lower-half
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 30, 2018 17:12:09 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 9:37:46 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on May 1, 2018 11:11:55 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 11:30:09 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on May 1, 2018 12:19:39 GMT -5
The more you learn about Trump and his cronies, the more he sounds like an organized crime boss. And I think you are right. Under what authority was Schiller engageing in this conduct? Does the GOP give a r*tsass? No, it doesn't. It is morally compromised. Saw one legal analyst stating that while a patient may have the right to a copy of his or her medical records, the original medical records under New York law are the property of the medical professional or hospital. Thus, this "raid" could be characterized as theft from Dr. Bornstein.
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on May 1, 2018 16:17:23 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on May 1, 2018 19:36:48 GMT -5
You'd think that if the GOP on the Hill had any concerns, they'd be drawing up articles of impeachment for Pruitt. Instead the clown GOPers are doing the bidding of the Grifter-in-Chief Trump. Disgusting. You GOPers should be very very proud of what your party has become, right? MARRAKESH, Morocco — A controversial trip to Morocco by Environmental Protection Agency chief Scott Pruitt last December was partly arranged by a longtime friend and lobbyist, who accompanied Pruitt and his entourage at multiple stops and served as an informal liaison at both official and social events during the visit. Richard Smotkin, a former Comcast lobbyist who has known the EPA administrator for years, worked for months with Pruitt’s aides to hammer out logistics, according to four individuals familiar with those preparations. In April, Smotkin won a $40,000-a-month contract, retroactive to Jan. 1, with the Moroccan government to promote the kingdom’s cultural and economic interests. He recently registered as a foreign agent representing that government. www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/lobbyist-helped-broker-pruitts-100000-trip-to-morocco/2018/05/01/b2e20ee0-4d76-11e8-b725-92c89fe3ca4c_story.html?utm_term=.1e715d9a104a
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 9:53:19 GMT -5
Rachel Maddow looks like she is going to cry over the fact that Mrs. Clinton will have to tell the truth about her health and release her records. I know she is a partisan, but is this really that onerous. You want to be President, give up your medical history and your tax returns. Case closed. Welp.... Yes...
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Post by Elvado on May 2, 2018 10:39:04 GMT -5
Rachel Maddow looks like she is going to cry over the fact that Mrs. Clinton will have to tell the truth about her health and release her records. I know she is a partisan, but is this really that onerous. You want to be President, give up your medical history and your tax returns. Case closed. Welp.... Yes... It is nothing short of disgraceful as to both substance and form. As I have stated, and you have quoted, release of tax returns and health records should be a threshold requirement.
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Post by tashoya on May 2, 2018 11:19:22 GMT -5
It is nothing short of disgraceful as to both substance and form. As I have stated, and you have quoted, release of tax returns and health records should be a threshold requirement. Strangely, prior to the last election, I think the majority of people would have agreed with the threshold part. But, as with many things Trump, it wasn't a deal breaker for his supporters. Still isn't. Unless, of course, the shoe is on the other foot. Then, all of a sudden, those old rules and thresholds are somehow important again. It's so beyond ridiculous that Trump supporters are fine with whatever falls out of the hole in the lower part of Trump's face but they take issue with jokes by a comedian.
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Post by Elvado on May 2, 2018 11:22:27 GMT -5
It is nothing short of disgraceful as to both substance and form. As I have stated, and you have quoted, release of tax returns and health records should be a threshold requirement. Strangely, prior to the last election, I think the majority of people would have agreed with the threshold part. But, as with many things Trump, it wasn't a deal breaker for his supporters. Still isn't. Unless, of course, the shoe is on the other foot. Then, all of a sudden, those old rules and thresholds are somehow important again. It's so beyond ridiculous that Trump supporters are fine with whatever falls out of the hole in the lower part of Trump's face but they take issue with jokes by a comedian. We could spend weeks on the fact that there is widespread cognitive dissonance among Trump supporters. The only topic which might take longer is addressing the fact that as a nation, we are all too damn touchy and too easily offended.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 11:43:56 GMT -5
There is no threshold for Trump. That's why it was hilarious to suggest he's getting a bum rap from us. 0-2 on disclosures. Lied about both. Provided a fraudulent document on one. Spent day and night making his opponents health an issue like many folks did on this board.
"Too touchy and easily offended".... Based on posting history this seems like a wildly hypocritical statement..
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