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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 23, 2015 11:24:24 GMT -5
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Post by jwp91 on Jul 23, 2015 11:40:55 GMT -5
I think JTIII has hit nirvana....his opening comment includes
We literally have three guys -- Jessie (Govan), Bradley (Hayes), and Tre (Campbell) -- that can only play one position and literally everyone else can play multiple positions offensively and defensively. They can play multiple positions and guard multiple positions effectively.
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Post by jwp91 on Jul 23, 2015 11:42:48 GMT -5
Classic JTIII.... rejecting the thesis.
CBSSports.com: Now every time somebody has asked you questions about a freshman, you usually respond with “yeah remember -- he’s a freshman.” But you don’t have that response when someone brings up Jessie Govan. What do you think is going to allow him to contribute right away at a high level for Georgetown?
Thompson: Well, Bradley Hayes is playing really well too at that same spot so we have two guys who can play at that spot. But to answer your question, Jessie has a presence about him and a poise about him. Physically he’s ready to compete at this level and have success. Mentally he’s ready to compete at this level and have success. He’s going to have a good year. There’s no doubt about that. You can look at all the big men in this freshman class -- when everything is said and done -- you’re going to be talking about him.
If I read an JTIII interview and he didn't reject the thesis at least once, I would suspect it was a fake...
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 23, 2015 12:03:11 GMT -5
These interviews tend to play to the strengths of the coaches and are generally a chance to sell his team's strengths.
Dave Leitao and Chris Mullin would be just as optimistic in this kind of format.
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Post by seaweed on Jul 23, 2015 14:29:27 GMT -5
"Being able to hang another banner in this gym is always at the forefront of my mind. That’s what most of the thoughts that I have are about. That’s the goal here. That’s what we want to do. We want to go to the Final Four and we want to win a national championship. That’s never going to change."
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Post by kchoya on Jul 23, 2015 14:44:49 GMT -5
These interviews tend to play to the strengths of the coaches and are generally a chance to sell his team's strengths. Dave Leitao and Chris Mullin would be just as optimistic in this kind of format. What's your point, other than to be a Debbie Downer?
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 23, 2015 16:14:54 GMT -5
These interviews tend to play to the strengths of the coaches and are generally a chance to sell his team's strengths. Dave Leitao and Chris Mullin would be just as optimistic in this kind of format. That's why you analyze them within context...
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Post by prhoya on Jul 23, 2015 18:32:16 GMT -5
I think JTIII has hit nirvana....his opening comment includes We literally have three guys -- Jessie (Govan), Bradley (Hayes), and Tre (Campbell) -- that can only play one position and literally everyone else can play multiple positions offensively and defensively. They can play multiple positions and guard multiple positions effectively. Except Tre can play 2 and Jessie can play 4, if needed. The only player who can play only one position is Hayes.
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Post by prhoya on Jul 23, 2015 18:34:59 GMT -5
Classic JTIII.... rejecting the thesis. CBSSports.com: Now every time somebody has asked you questions about a freshman, you usually respond with “yeah remember -- he’s a freshman.” But you don’t have that response when someone brings up Jessie Govan. What do you think is going to allow him to contribute right away at a high level for Georgetown? Thompson: Well, Bradley Hayes is playing really well too at that same spot so we have two guys who can play at that spot. But to answer your question, Jessie has a presence about him and a poise about him. Physically he’s ready to compete at this level and have success. Mentally he’s ready to compete at this level and have success. He’s going to have a good year. There’s no doubt about that. You can look at all the big men in this freshman class -- when everything is said and done -- you’re going to be talking about him. If I read an JTIII interview and he didn't reject the thesis at least once, I would suspect it was a fake... Classic JT3! It's like JT2's classic start to any answer: "I... I... I think..."
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Jul 23, 2015 18:48:37 GMT -5
I think JTIII has hit nirvana....his opening comment includes We literally have three guys -- Jessie (Govan), Bradley (Hayes), and Tre (Campbell) -- that can only play one position and literally everyone else can play multiple positions offensively and defensively. They can play multiple positions and guard multiple positions effectively. Except Tre can play 2 and Jessie can play 4, if needed. The only player who can play only one position is Hayes. Hmmmmm. I guess III doesn't know his own players.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 23, 2015 19:17:52 GMT -5
These interviews tend to play to the strengths of the coaches and are generally a chance to sell his team's strengths. Dave Leitao and Chris Mullin would be just as optimistic in this kind of format. What's your point, other than to be a Debbie Downer? Sounds like you're the one who's on a downer. I think we want coaches to be optimistic. If not them, who? Back in Jimmy Johnson's first season with the Dallas Cowboys, he was asked to project his team's record (they finished 1-15). He was reported to have said "16-0." After the media laughing had subsided, he said, "If I don't believe they can win every game, why should they?" Coach Thompson is not only sending a message to CBS Sports.com, HoyaTalk, or anyone else who reads the article, he's also sending a message to his team. If he doesn't believe in Bradley Hayes, Kaleb Johnson, etc., etc., they can lose hope too. This is not the time to sell a team short. A coach may see the clouds ahead but that's not what his team needs to hear. Example: Rob Sgarlata is walking into Patriot League media day next week with about as much logical chance to win the PL title as Rand Paul is going to be the Republican nominee, but he's going to be upbeat and make the case--not just for a newspaper reporter, but more than that. If he doesn't believe they can win every game, why should they? So, yes, I want to see Georgetown's coaches speaking well of their teams. This interview is that kind of opportunity, and it's a good one, too.
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Post by prhoya on Jul 23, 2015 19:56:47 GMT -5
Except Tre can play 2 and Jessie can play 4, if needed. The only player who can play only one position is Hayes. Hmmmmm. I guess III doesn't know his own players. "if needed"
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 24, 2015 9:49:57 GMT -5
These interviews tend to play to the strengths of the coaches and are generally a chance to sell his team's strengths. Dave Leitao and Chris Mullin would be just as optimistic in this kind of format. You don't at all find it weird that JTIII is optimistic. I realize that projecting confidence to instill it in your players is a strategy that many coaches employ. But JTIII generally goes the "rare praise" route, at least publicly and from what little indication we get of privately, constantly reminding of improvement areas and the need to work. I think it is a lot different than many other coaches. As an aside, I don't think that either of those coaches will take that tack this year. They have a lot to work on and know it.
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 24, 2015 9:54:44 GMT -5
These interviews tend to play to the strengths of the coaches and are generally a chance to sell his team's strengths. Dave Leitao and Chris Mullin would be just as optimistic in this kind of format. You don't at all find it weird that JTIII is optimistic. I realize that projecting confidence to instill it in your players is a strategy that many coaches employ. But JTIII generally goes the "rare praise" route, at least publicly and from what little indication we get of privately, constantly reminding of improvement areas and the need to work. I think it is a lot different than many other coaches. As an aside, I don't think that either of those coaches will take that tack this year. They have a lot to work on and know it. This
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Post by OldHoyafan on Jul 24, 2015 11:26:59 GMT -5
I think we can excuse JTIII for bring a little giddy about his big man recruit. After all, it is his first legitimate big man starter as a freshman since Monroe. Govan has skills. Big men with his skills have in the recent past been Kentucky, Duke, Arizona, etc., recruits and more than likely one and done candidates. It was indeed a big deal for the Hoyas when they got him. So much so that another 4 star recruit(Derickson) decided to back out of his commitment. Jessie is special, not as special as Patrick or Mourning but I think he could have as much if not greater impact than Monroe as a true center.
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Post by jwp91 on Jul 24, 2015 13:07:04 GMT -5
If Govan really does have 3 point range that should really open things up in the paint.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 25, 2015 7:48:50 GMT -5
A few takeaways
1)I'm surprised that III really thinks that this frosh class has a chance to be as good as the soph class and the class of Green-Hibbert-Wallace. If that turns out to be the case then the future may be now because that soph class IMO is outstanding. Obviously folks are high on Govan and to a lesser extent Derrickson, but I'm guessing the staff think the world of Johnson too for III to feel that way.
2)Speaking of Govan III basically claimed that when all is said and done Govan will be the cream of the crop of the bigs in this nationwide freshmen class (or at least in the discussion). Govan may be two or so years away from that but nonetheless that is really mind-blowing to read III hype any of his freshmen players like that.
3)I was surprised III even acknowledged or was even aware that DSR could be a top five scorer all-time in the program. Not a big deal or anything mind you but I found it interesting.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 25, 2015 7:51:44 GMT -5
If Govan really does have 3 point range that should really open things up in the paint. I care less about his three-point range and more about his ability to score in the paint. Don't get me wrong...I'm happy that he may have the capability to draw defenders away from the basket when he plants himself on the perimeter. But it is his ability to score inside that gets me excited the most and I hope III will have the team keep feeding him the ball when he's hot and shooting high percentages.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 25, 2015 7:53:59 GMT -5
I think JTIII has hit nirvana....his opening comment includes We literally have three guys -- Jessie (Govan), Bradley (Hayes), and Tre (Campbell) -- that can only play one position and literally everyone else can play multiple positions offensively and defensively. They can play multiple positions and guard multiple positions effectively. Except Tre can play 2 and Jessie can play 4, if needed. The only player who can play only one position is Hayes. Not sure if Govan can play the four as so far defense is concerned but I agree that Tre seems capable of playing the two at times in college. He can shoot like a shooting guard and has long enough arms to bother most college shooting guards.
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Post by SaxaCD on Jul 25, 2015 9:07:15 GMT -5
If Govan really does have 3 point range that should really open things up in the paint. I care less about his three-point range and more about his ability to score in the paint. Don't get me wrong...I'm happy that he may have the capability to draw defenders away from the basket when he plants himself on the perimeter. But it is his ability to score inside that gets me excited the most and I hope III will have the team keep feeding him the ball when he's hot and shooting high percentages. I agree, and the inside scoring is what I'm most interested to see, but I do like the fact that he has some range -- that means the D can't do what it has the past couple of years and just sag, sag, sag. I don't care so much about threes, but the ability to keep the D honest from the foul line and just beyond is really a great weapon in a center's arsenal, and opens things up for the smaller guys, since bigger defenders can be drawn away from the hoop. I want his bread and butter to be inside, but I want the D to always be thinking that he could spot up and burn them, too, if they don't respect his shooting ability!
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