hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 15, 2015 15:24:37 GMT -5
If they want to think out the box, they should follow the GU blueprint, and hire the great local high school coach, if he exists.
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Thomas
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Post by Thomas on Mar 15, 2015 15:34:16 GMT -5
Chris Collins has got to be kicking himself for leaving Coach K a year too early for Northwestern. He would've been perfect for the DePaul job because he grew up in Chicago(or the Chicago area), probably has ties to every big time high school and AAU coach in the state of Illinois, has the Coach K stamp of approval and his father Doug could assist him in recruiting the state of Illinois, and he wouldn't even have to pay him for his services!! Turning around DePaul would've been a lot easier than turning around Northwestern, unfortunately for C.Collins, it's too soon for him to leave Northwestern.
I agree with RBHoya about DePaul hiring an elite recruiter who is a little bit questionable ethically for DePaul because of all the great talent in Chicago and the rest of Illinois. Bruce Pearl would've also been a perfect fit for DePaul and meets the requirements of elite recruiter/questionable ethics. There is no doubt that he'd get guys like Jabari Parker, Cliff Alexander, and Jahlil Okafor to DePaul immediately.
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 15, 2015 15:49:42 GMT -5
If they want to think out the box, they should follow the GU blueprint, and hire the great local high school coach, if he exists. To do so, DePaul needs a visionary like Fr. Henle. I don't think that they have one.
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RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Mar 15, 2015 16:06:25 GMT -5
Overall though, I'm all in on Depaul hiring somebody who is an elite recruiter, maybe a little bit questionable ethically, who is going to land some elite one-and-done type recruits. That's one thing our league is missing right now. There are a lot of pretty good teams, but we don't really have anyone landing one-and-done type talent, which is a lot of times what draws in casual fans. The average Joe, in many cases, only cares about college basketball as a means to see guys who are going to make an NBA impact soon. Quality teams with mostly 4 year guys are good as the basis for your conference, but as far as media attention goes, some one-and-dones are good for business. I kind of view Depaul as playing with house money for the Big East--I'm happy if they get a coach that's a little shady, and if it works out they'll bring attention to the conference and we can all hate them for being "cheaters." If it doesn't work out, it's no big loss because they're no worse than now and SOMEBODY has to be in 8th, 9th and 10th in the league. Spoken like a true MSB grad
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Post by BeantownHoya on Mar 15, 2015 16:42:08 GMT -5
Anthony Grant....?
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 15, 2015 16:59:01 GMT -5
Grant makes sense. Not sure what those knuckleheads in Tuscaloosa are thinking.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 16, 2015 8:50:32 GMT -5
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 16, 2015 9:05:06 GMT -5
That's why I called them knuckleheads. I had already posted his firing in the separate thread on the coaching carousel in Pro and College Sports.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Mar 16, 2015 9:12:14 GMT -5
Not sure a long tenured underachieving coach is what DePaul needs.... Already did that with Purnell
Cmon people. There are better options.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 16, 2015 9:13:04 GMT -5
That's why I called them knuckleheads. I had already posted his firing in the separate thread on the coaching carousel in Pro and College Sports. Missed it. Thought you were speculating that Grant would be available.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 16, 2015 9:53:22 GMT -5
I hate to see Purnell go and fear that DePaul could do much, much worse.
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Post by capcenterhoya on Mar 16, 2015 10:17:22 GMT -5
I hate to see Purnell go and fear that DePaul could do much, much worse. DePaul might not be the easiest place to win, but Purnell did an atrocious job. It's inexcusable how bad their defense was under his tenure. His gimmick press was never going to work in the Big East with the players he recruited. Worst case is DePaul stays irrelevant.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Mar 16, 2015 10:22:47 GMT -5
I hate to see Purnell go and fear that DePaul could do much, much worse. DePaul might not be the easiest place to win, but Purnell did an atrocious job. It's inexcusable how bad their defense was under his tenure. His gimmick press was never going to work in the Big East with the players he recruited. Worst case is DePaul stays irrelevant. DePaul had way too much talent to be that bad. I liked their pieces this year (not much depth though). They can get players. It can be a really strong program again, but this hire is key
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Post by wrestlemania on Mar 16, 2015 11:17:31 GMT -5
This one is tough to predict. DePaul's selling points are its new arena, the HS talent available in Chicago (plus the slight uptick in recruiting that began under Purnell) and the opportunity to coach in the Big East. But that job has been a dog for a long time now -- the top candidates are likely to put it on the back burner in case nothing better comes along. The buzz in Chi-town is that the AD absolutely cannot afford to miss with this hire, which would seem to make out of the box guys like Strickland less likely. $$$ will be the key but there may be some resistance there -- they just dropped a ton on Purnell without much to show for it.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 16, 2015 11:29:03 GMT -5
I hate to see Purnell go and fear that DePaul could do much, much worse. DePaul has the potential to be better. Much better. The right coach can tap into that. It's obvious Purnell is not that guy. It doesn't matter if the next guy ends up worse; they have to make the change to someone with the potential to succeed. How could the next guy be much, much worse, anyway?
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 16, 2015 12:35:48 GMT -5
I just felt like Purnell was building something, and that DePaul was more like a eight to ten year project as opposed to a five-year turnaround. Their performance in Big East play this year, as well as some of the talent on their roster, gave me hope. Plus, I think Purnell is an honorable and hard-working guy who represented the conference well.
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Post by HometownHoya on Mar 16, 2015 13:55:05 GMT -5
I just felt like Purnell was building something, and that DePaul was more like a eight to ten year project as opposed to a five-year turnaround. Their performance in Big East play this year, as well as some of the talent on their roster, gave me hope. Plus, I think Purnell is an honorable and hard-working guy who represented the conference well. I agree but you can't argue with their decision. In his mind it may have been an 8-10 year turnaround but they wanted it quicker. Will it come back and bite them in the ass? We'll see but the worst case scenario is they're on the bottom of the BE...again.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 16, 2015 14:13:16 GMT -5
I just felt like Purnell was building something, and that DePaul was more like a eight to ten year project as opposed to a five-year turnaround. Their performance in Big East play this year, as well as some of the talent on their roster, gave me hope. Plus, I think Purnell is an honorable and hard-working guy who represented the conference well. Agree. I thought Purnell was turning it around. DePaul was a hideous place for any coach to come to and he was slowly building it up to the point where they were getting a little dangerous. Now it's all back to square one IMO.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 16, 2015 14:29:33 GMT -5
Strickland could recruit and would be loyal. Get the guy a full time Uber driver and make it happen.
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 16, 2015 14:30:11 GMT -5
I just felt like Purnell was building something, and that DePaul was more like a eight to ten year project as opposed to a five-year turnaround. Their performance in Big East play this year, as well as some of the talent on their roster, gave me hope. Plus, I think Purnell is an honorable and hard-working guy who represented the conference well. Agree. I thought Purnell was turning it around. DePaul was a hideous place for any coach to come to and he was slowly building it up to the point where they were getting a little dangerous. Now it's all back to square one IMO. I don't know that I would go that far. They're losing two rotation guys to graduation (Forest Robinson and Jamee Crockett), but Billy Garrett and Tommy Hamilton are still only going to be juniors next year. It's not like St. John's where they're only bringing back two of the players in their rotation. If anything, Purnell may have laid the groundwork enough to allow for a good coach that can get them back in tournament contention to be interested in the job.
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