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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 11:33:03 GMT -5
Wasn't the plan that he would declare on his mother's birthday -- September 11?
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 6, 2015 12:34:07 GMT -5
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Sept 6, 2015 15:21:16 GMT -5
What Bracey does in this highlight is why the staff offered the kid, reportedly still involved with his recruitment, and why myself and others on this board like YaBoy are high on this kids game and wouldn't be disappointed if ended up a Hoya. Bracey's ability to create a shot for himself or others especially at the end of a shot clock would be an added dimension to this team that will be lacking after DSR graduates.
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Post by jld on Sept 6, 2015 16:51:03 GMT -5
I really do not think that this clip proves anything except a small guard seems to carrying the ball constantly and gets a shot off over a kid who is about 5'6", in a rec league type setting.
I hate to be negative but I do not know if this kid can play at the BE level in our system. I do not see that he has a shot that he can get off against D1 guards so the book would be to sag and stop the drive and give him the outside shot.
If he is a kid who can be used situationally and enjoy attending a great school for free for four years and be a part of a great program then this is a reasonable way to use a scholarship...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2015 17:39:21 GMT -5
www.indihoops.com/blogs/hardwood-insiders/3rd-annual-dmv-elite-80-showcases-top-talent#sthash.GVOs7e36.dpbsDaquan Bracey | 5’11 senior point guard | St. Frances (MD) | No matter how many times you watch Bracey, his game never gets old. Whether it’s a thread-the-needle pass or a jaw dropping crossover, he brings a certain level of excitement to the game that is unmatched. Although Bracey has flash, he is also a very cerebral player who continued to make the right play throughout the event elevating his team to the championship game. Whichever college he chooses, they will acquire a solid point guard for the future
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Sept 6, 2015 17:47:13 GMT -5
I have nothing to add. I think YaBoy just dropped the Mic on this conversation!
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 6, 2015 19:08:39 GMT -5
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Post by dense on Sept 6, 2015 20:03:12 GMT -5
I really do not think that this clip proves anything except a small guard seems to carrying the ball constantly and gets a shot off over a kid who is about 5'6", in a rec league type setting. I hate to be negative but I do not know if this kid can play at the BE level in our system. I do not see that he has a shot that he can get off against D1 guards so the book would be to sag and stop the drive and give him the outside shot. If he is a kid who can be used situationally and enjoy attending a great school for free for four years and be a part of a great program then this is a reasonable way to use a scholarship... This seems to be ignoring the fact he plays in the Baltimore Catholic league which is one of the best conferences in the United states. It's not like his high school games are against crappy teams.
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Post by jld on Sept 6, 2015 21:44:04 GMT -5
I am not saying conclusively that he is not a good player, I just think that he is not a great fit.
If the staff thinks so, they certainly know a lot more than I do. But it seems that he is a back up option at this point and that Woods, jones and Brown are all better players.
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Post by tashoya on Sept 6, 2015 22:37:59 GMT -5
I really do not think that this clip proves anything except a small guard seems to carrying the ball constantly and gets a shot off over a kid who is about 5'6", in a rec league type setting. I hate to be negative but I do not know if this kid can play at the BE level in our system. I do not see that he has a shot that he can get off against D1 guards so the book would be to sag and stop the drive and give him the outside shot. If he is a kid who can be used situationally and enjoy attending a great school for free for four years and be a part of a great program then this is a reasonable way to use a scholarship... I think a lot of people are wary of shorter guys in general at any position. I think that's magnified at the 1 and the 2. That said, I haven't seen him play in person and, even if I had, I'd still defer to guys that get paid to make such evaluations. The kid puts up numbers everywhere he plays against any and all competition. That has to say something about his game. I think it's clear that the staff would love to sign one of the more "highly rated" guys for whatever those rankings are worth but it's also clear that the staff thinks that he's got what it takes to compete at the BE level. You mentioned about him shaking and shooting over a 5'6" guy in rec league. I don't know that that's what that was but, even if it was, he shook a guy badly that is smaller than him that should have been able to better hang with him. Imagine a 6'3" guard trying to stick with him in that same scenario. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying that, unless you've watched the kid play in person against known competition, there may be another side of that coin. Maybe he is a backup at the BE level. Happens all of the time even with fairly highly regarded guys. But he certainly would offer another look and has skills that would be a great fit if he is able to play at that level. It almost seems like a damned if you do, damned if you don't. If the staff misses on the guys that everyone is after and they weren't looking closely at Bracey with the skillset that he already has and he went elsewhere, people would be wondering why we weren't looking more closely at him regardless of his measurables. He's got game. That's clear. Whether it translates is a question for all but the very best of each class. Personally, I'm really excited about all of the work that the staff is putting in following guys up and down the top 150 or so. Fortunately or unfortunately, our staff needs to do that. We don't get our pick of the best of the best as far as HS rankings go. But, a good amount of the time, we get guys that fit both into the system and, equally importantly, at Georgetown as a whole. I tend to be overly idealistic with this sort of thing so I think that if a guy walks onto campus and thinks, "This is where I belong," that that's going to carry over into his game as well. It's a bit Pollyanna, I admit. But if a kid is happy in his surroundings and loves being a Hoya, I think some of the other things tend to take care of themselves. Maybe Bracey becomes a Hoya and surprises the heck out of you. Maybe he never does and is really successful somewhere else. Or, maybe, you're correct and he's not HM material. It's all a crapshoot to a degree but, having not seen more than YouTube clips, if he's still on the staff's radar, there have to be very good reasons for that.
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Post by dense on Sept 7, 2015 1:11:10 GMT -5
People are talking about fit but I think 3 is making a change because of the clock is what he needs production wise from his guards. Just look at who he recruiting. Guys who can get into the lane and create for themselves or others. I think the guards he is looking for attributes that we haven't seen from anyone here EVER and I think it being done for a reason.
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Post by jld on Sept 7, 2015 7:51:15 GMT -5
People are talking about fit but I think 3 is making a change because of the clock is what he needs production wise from his guards. Just look at who he recruiting. Guys who can get into the lane and create for themselves or others. I think the guards he is looking for attributes that we haven't seen from anyone here EVER and I think it being done for a reason. Excellent point re: his potential impact with a shorter shot clock.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Sept 7, 2015 9:04:42 GMT -5
1. Need guards that can create as we incur way too many shot clock violations. 2. Need guards that can penetrate as we need to draw fouls. This is why we lose to mid-majors in the NCAAs. 3. Need guards that can dish to open up the floor. 4. Short guards that are quick and pesky are a nightmare to play against.
Don't worry about a few inches.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Sept 7, 2015 9:42:13 GMT -5
1. Need guards that can create as we incur way too many shot clock violations. 2. Need guards that can penetrate as we need to draw fouls. This is why we lose to mid-majors in the NCAAs. 3. Need guards that can dish to open up the floor. 4. Short guards that are quick and pesky are a nightmare to play against. Don't worry about a few inches. Agreed. We don't want a roster full of shorter guards, but one speedster can have huge benefits.
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Post by prhoya on Sept 7, 2015 10:46:13 GMT -5
Agreed. We don't want a roster full of shorter guards, but one creative speedster can have huge benefits. How about now?
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Post by prhoya on Sept 7, 2015 10:53:33 GMT -5
2. Need guards that can penetrate as we need to draw fouls. This is why we lose to mid-majors in the NCAAs. This is a good point, but our go to offense involves getting clean shots. JT3 must find a way to incorporate getting the opposition in foul trouble/getting more FTAs into his system. When the lanes are packed and/or when refs are letting the grabbing go unpunished and our perimeter shots are not falling, we must have the option to penetrate and not just by the guards.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 11:24:05 GMT -5
Interviewed at the Elite 80 event, Hoyas not mentioned on his school list... Kstate, West Virginia, Temple, St joes etc...
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Sept 7, 2015 11:47:14 GMT -5
Agreed. We don't want a roster full of shorter guards, but one creative speedster can have huge benefits. How about now? Yeah that's even better.
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 7, 2015 12:09:21 GMT -5
Interviewed at the Elite 80 event, Hoyas not mentioned on his school list... Kstate, West Virginia, Temple, St joes etc... WVU would be a good look for Bracey imo..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 12:11:30 GMT -5
Interviewed at the Elite 80 event, Hoyas not mentioned on his school list... Kstate, West Virginia, Temple, St joes etc... WVU would be a good look for Bracey imo.. So would Georgetown... His game translates anywhere.
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