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Post by blueandgray on Nov 13, 2014 0:02:46 GMT -5
Just want to reiterate, staff is high on this kid. Loves his speed, quickness, decision making and his ability to finish at the rim.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 13, 2014 10:13:10 GMT -5
Looks like a guy we can definitely use. We have some great ingredients; adding more speed would be a big plus.
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Post by Talos on Nov 13, 2014 11:06:35 GMT -5
Think the playbook is to land this kid next weekend if possible and then wait for the spring to see what shakes loose/becomes available… I think this is right. Hardnett sounds like an intriguing prospect that fills a need. Sign him if we can then sit back and eat popcorn watching coaches get fired and teams lose scholarships or postseason appearances, etc. Never know who might be available this spring. Yeah, I see what you're saying and that's probably the best plan at this point. But I'm just a little disappointed we're in this situation. At the beginning of the summer, it seemed we were on our way to a top 5 class. Now we've lost out on all our guard targets and are hoping someone impactful might possibly become available in the spring. And yes, I remember Otto, but that was a unique situation and something that shouldn't be counted on. Hardnett might very well be an under the radar late bloomer who turns into a solid contributor or even starter for us down the road. I don't know much about him other than videos and scouting reports, but I'm not too excited about him. I don't think it's his low ranking, because we all know those aren't necessarily the best predictor of success at the next level. I actually think a better barometer is to look at the other schools that are recruiting a player and then gauge his potential and future upside. The last time I checked, the only other official visit taken by Hardnett was to Murray State.... Now maybe there's a legitimate reason for that, and maybe he has more high-major offers lately. Can someone who knows more about the situation provide a better scouting report and his ability to play at the BE level? Thanks.
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Post by TC on Nov 13, 2014 11:21:46 GMT -5
Well, Hardnett seems to have offers from a lot of places (Clemson, FGCU, Ole Miss). Wisconsin is interested it looks like.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 11:57:48 GMT -5
Jahshire Hardnett – Nobody had a better weekend for NTL than Jahshire obviously. He had one of the better games in the entire session with an 11/12 FG, 30 point performance. He is the guy you want to have the ball in his hands with the shot clock running down because he can get the rim, draw a foul, create a midrange or stroke it from the 3 point line. He’s a very versatile combo guard. When he and Chad start clicking together, it’s going to be special to watch. I think that’s going to happen in these next 3 sessions. When it does happen, that will make this NTL team pretty tough to guard on the perimeter. Jahshire won a high school state championship in ultra-competitive 6A in Mississippi as a junior and was MVP of the state championshipgame. The experience he and Chad Lott gained from playing in the EYBL last year is invaluable. We look to Jahshire to be one of the leaders of this team, not just on the offensive end but on the defensive end and in the huddle. www.d1circuit.com/news_article/show/384366?referrer_id=790853
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 12:03:23 GMT -5
westernkentucky.scout.com/2/1402609.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterA program with those qualities shouldn't be difficult for the 5-foot-10 speedster to find, who already claims offers from Western Kentucky, Texas Tech, SMU, Ole Miss, Clemson and Murray State, among others. His quickness and scoring ability is a big reason why Division 1 coaches are offering, but Hardnett already knows what he needs to improve at. "I know I need to become a better floor leader," he said. "Sometimes, I try to score a little too much. "Coming into college being 5'10, I'm not gonna be able to score as easy as I can in high school. I want to work towards getting my teammates involved more." The Gulfport (Miss.) star doesn't have any visits planned yet, but said he looks to start scheduling them towards the end of May.
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 13, 2014 12:13:14 GMT -5
Just want to reiterate, staff is high on this kid. Loves his speed, quickness, decision making and his ability to finish at the rim. This is all I need to know... Come on down, Jahshire!
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Post by matersammich on Nov 13, 2014 12:16:00 GMT -5
I think this is right. Hardnett sounds like an intriguing prospect that fills a need. Sign him if we can then sit back and eat popcorn watching coaches get fired and teams lose scholarships or postseason appearances, etc. Never know who might be available this spring. Yeah, I see what you're saying and that's probably the best plan at this point. But I'm just a little disappointed we're in this situation. At the beginning of the summer, it seemed we were on our way to a top 5 class. Now we've lost out on all our guard targets and are hoping someone impactful might possibly become available in the spring. And yes, I remember Otto, but that was a unique situation and something that shouldn't be counted on. Hardnett might very well be an under the radar late bloomer who turns into a solid contributor or even starter for us down the road. I don't know much about him other than videos and scouting reports, but I'm not too excited about him. I don't think it's his low ranking, because we all know those aren't necessarily the best predictor of success at the next level. I actually think a better barometer is to look at the other schools that are recruiting a player and then gauge his potential and future upside. The last time I checked, the only other official visit taken by Hardnett was to Murray State.... Now maybe there's a legitimate reason for that, and maybe he has more high-major offers lately. Can someone who knows more about the situation provide a better scouting report and his ability to play at the BE level? Thanks. Yeah I definitely get that. Losing out on guard after guard for 2015 has been frustrating. The team is stacked at the other positions... what's not to love?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 12:49:16 GMT -5
Strengths:
Advanced Ball Handling skills
Speed and Strength. Very fast end to end and solid upper frame allows him to finish through contact despite his small size.
Gritty tough competitor/Scrappy defender
Gamer. Wants to take the big shot, does not shy away from the big moment or high pressure situations
Mentality. Kid wants to bury you, if he gets it going he will hunt shots and try and turn a 5 point lead into 15 soon as possible. Very aggressive scorer of the basketball who embraces the big stage
Defense. When he dedicates himself defensively he can be really disruptive to ball handlers, the problem is he does not do it enough.
Minuses:
Size. Kid is 5’10 maybe 5’9
Streaky shooter. Eybl averages were 42% from the floor and 31% from 3. Not bad but not great either. Kid says he takes bad shots from time to time and I won’t disagree. He has those “heat check” moments. I like the mentality but it needs to be tamed IMO.
PG? Does he and can he show the mentality needed to run a basketball team? Right now he plays like a 5’10 SG can he get to the point and stick there.
Overall:
I like his game and mentality. Hardnett is the type of kid who usually ends up at a MM and ends up causing some HM coach fits in the tourney. Kid has a lot of Dog in him which I like. He also has the look and demeanor of a kid whose been passed over many times do to his size and profile and plays like it.
I think right now he projects to be a backup PG/Spark plug of the bench. The type of kid you stick in the game if your looking for a spark of the bench, or just want a change of pace. How much time he sees will depend on his ability to transition into a PG role and improving his shot selection and decision making.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Nov 13, 2014 14:14:25 GMT -5
Thanks for that information, YaBoy. If that is an accurate description of Hardnett, I say sign him up if possible. I love the comments about his quickness as well as his mentality. We need more guys who play like that.
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Post by dense on Nov 13, 2014 14:17:55 GMT -5
Thst scouting report is basically what I saw in the video available on him. He is a really good scorer. The thing you love is that he knows what he needs to change his game to and is embracing it.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Nov 13, 2014 14:36:30 GMT -5
I'm sold.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 15:39:57 GMT -5
i know people are arguing we need depth at the pg position next year but i'm not convinced. i'm sure i'll get some flack for this, but, depending on how the staff feels about quentin jackson, jamal murray and any other highly ranked '16 pg's i'd say wait another year. I think this goes back to the De la Rosa argument from last year where some posters wanted a sure thing big man for this year because we were worried we'd miss out on '15 bigs. Well, we got Govan and things are fine at the center position for now. Same thing now at the pg position with one more year of DSR, sophomore Tre and Paul White/Peak doing some spot ball handling I think we can afford to wait. However, if the staff feels like we're not in good shape with '16 players then we might have to bite the bullet and go with one of our fall backs this year.
I haven't seen Hardnett or Robinson for that matter so perhaps they're nice diamonds in the rough, but I just have a bad feeling they're more likely to be the next Vee Sanford. (Who proved to be a nice player in the end but just didn't work out with Gtown.) Anyway, I'm very ready to admit I'm wrong about this but thought I'd at least offer up the thought for some debate.....
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Post by SirSaxa on Nov 13, 2014 15:47:54 GMT -5
Depth is essential - injuries, transfers, academics, whatever. We have three open schollies now. We need another PG for next year - regardless of how well Tre Campbell develops. Waiting for the 2016 kids is not a strategy I would recommend.
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Post by centercourt400s on Nov 13, 2014 16:14:09 GMT -5
Depth is essential - injuries, transfers, academics, whatever. We have three open schollies now. We need another PG for next year - regardless of how well Tre Campbell develops. Waiting for the 2016 kids is not a strategy I would recommend. 100% agree. With three open scholarships the team needs to add depth and another guard seems like the best idea right now. If, as described, he's a good ball handler, scorer and fierce competitor, there will be a place for him on the team.
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Post by blueandgray on Nov 13, 2014 16:23:16 GMT -5
Visit date is changing from what was reported earlier ...could be as early as this weekend or next.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 13, 2014 16:34:50 GMT -5
Visit date is chaznging from what was reported earlier ...could be as early as this weekend or next. Anxious to come see GU?!
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 13, 2014 16:38:38 GMT -5
i know people are arguing we need depth at the pg position next year but i'm not convinced. i'm sure i'll get some flack for this, but, depending on how the staff feels about quentin jackson, jamal murray and any other highly ranked '16 pg's i'd say wait another year. I think this goes back to the De la Rosa argument from last year where some posters wanted a sure thing big man for this year because we were worried we'd miss out on '15 bigs. Well, we got Govan and things are fine at the center position for now. Same thing now at the pg position with one more year of DSR, sophomore Tre and Paul White/Peak doing some spot ball handling I think we can afford to wait. However, if the staff feels like we're not in good shape with '16 players then we might have to bite the bullet and go with one of our fall backs this year. I haven't seen Hardnett or Robinson for that matter so perhaps they're nice diamonds in the rough, but I just have a bad feeling they're more likely to be the next Vee Sanford. (Who proved to be a nice player in the end but just didn't work out with Gtown.) Anyway, I'm very ready to admit I'm wrong about this but thought I'd at least offer up the thought for some debate..... The staff is kicking tires right now and it's a good thing, there's no harm in window shopping. That was my main point with DelaRosa last spring.. The fact is as much as I love Govan and I do.. The kid has skills that will show well in this system.. However there's no guarantee he's ready to compete at a high level his freshman year and if Hayes continues to be a non-factor the 5 spot could be troubling next season.. Right now I doubt the staff feels any type of way towards the players for 2016 and honestly even if they feel great about a kid, we've seen that it doesn't mean that much.. What really matters most is how the kids feel about G'town.. I guess what I'm trying to say is I'd rather the staff recruit for the present, they have 3 open scholarships right now use some of them.. Worry about 2016 later..
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Post by Talos on Nov 13, 2014 17:27:37 GMT -5
i know people are arguing we need depth at the pg position next year but i'm not convinced. i'm sure i'll get some flack for this, but, depending on how the staff feels about quentin jackson, jamal murray and any other highly ranked '16 pg's i'd say wait another year. I think this goes back to the De la Rosa argument from last year where some posters wanted a sure thing big man for this year because we were worried we'd miss out on '15 bigs. Well, we got Govan and things are fine at the center position for now. Same thing now at the pg position with one more year of DSR, sophomore Tre and Paul White/Peak doing some spot ball handling I think we can afford to wait. However, if the staff feels like we're not in good shape with '16 players then we might have to bite the bullet and go with one of our fall backs this year. I haven't seen Hardnett or Robinson for that matter so perhaps they're nice diamonds in the rough, but I just have a bad feeling they're more likely to be the next Vee Sanford. (Who proved to be a nice player in the end but just didn't work out with Gtown.) Anyway, I'm very ready to admit I'm wrong about this but thought I'd at least offer up the thought for some debate..... The staff is kicking tires right now and it's a good thing, there's no harm in window shopping. That was my main point with DelaRosa last spring.. The fact is as much as I love Govan and I do.. The kid has skills that will show well in this system.. However there's no guarantee he's ready to compete at a high level his freshman year and if Hayes continues to be a non-factor the 5 spot could be troubling next season.. Right now I doubt the staff feels any type of way towards the players for 2016 and honestly even if they feel great about a kid, we've seen that it doesn't mean that much.. What really matters most is how the kids feel about G'town.. I guess what I'm trying to say is I'd rather the staff recruit for the present, they have 3 open scholarships right now use some of them.. Worry about 2016 later.. I agree; I don't like holding onto scholarships and waiting for the next year. That being said, I'm not too excited about picking up what many feel is a mid-major type 5'9" guard. But hey, the staff seems to like him and I'd rather sign him than start next year short-handed.
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Post by IDenj on Nov 13, 2014 18:08:10 GMT -5
If you told me we should sign this kid over Trier, Crawford or Dozier I'd say you're nuts. But since we have no chance at those three, it's time to get a player while we can. Speedy and competitive. I can live with those attributes.
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