DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 26, 2014 15:44:10 GMT -5
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Post by Problem of Dog on Feb 26, 2014 17:08:08 GMT -5
Upgrade (in terms of competition) and upgrade (overall).
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Post by alumni47 on Feb 26, 2014 18:03:28 GMT -5
Southpoint high school vs The Seattle Seahawks........ who cares ?? I will tell you who should care, the parents of the GTOWN players. The only thing that has increased is the chance for serious injury!!!!!!!
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thebin
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Post by thebin on Feb 27, 2014 10:35:00 GMT -5
I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of the DC Harvard alums as they wait in line for a porta john and they remind themselves to never let their kids consider this dump over any ivy league school.
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Post by puppydog100 on Feb 27, 2014 16:26:29 GMT -5
thebin, if they don't want to make application to Georgetown because of the porta johns at the unfinished MSF, then we probably don't want them as a students to begin with.
GU's lack of commitment and direction to the Athletic Department is of far greater concern. All sports, including our once elite basketball program, are showing signs of not being able to compete at the highest level.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 2, 2014 13:56:57 GMT -5
GU's lack of commitment and direction to the Athletic Department is of far greater concern. All sports, including our once elite basketball program, are showing signs of not being able to compete at the highest level. Any facts to back this up? There's plenty of commitment at the highest levels of the University. It may not be at the visibility or velocity you would like, but it is most assuredly there.
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Post by puppydog100 on Mar 2, 2014 17:42:00 GMT -5
DFW HOYA, any proof to back your statement up?
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Post by 3706R on Mar 3, 2014 9:25:35 GMT -5
The lack of progress on the Multi Sport Facility and the fact that we will be the only school not offering scholarships in our league are pretty strong indicators of a lack of commitment from the University.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Mar 3, 2014 12:28:50 GMT -5
DFW HOYA, any proof to back your statement up? Well, we fully fund the maximum amount of scholarships in a number of a sports and our basketball budget is one of the highest in the country. Use Google, it's your friend.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 3, 2014 13:07:17 GMT -5
DFW HOYA, any proof to back your statement up? Athletic Budgets By Big East School Villanova University $34,157,791 Georgetown University $34,093,313 Marquette University $28,959,826 St John's University $27,182,921 DePaul University $25,343,254 Providence College $23,643,719 Seton Hall University $21,709,167 Buttler University $18,711,646 Creighton University $17,690,489 Xavier University $17,631,245
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Post by puppydog100 on Mar 3, 2014 16:37:09 GMT -5
DFW HOYA, we are discussing the commitment to football, not the overall athletic budget of the University.
How about comparing the amount budgeted to football and facilities as compared to the other football programs in the Patriot League?
I don't have a problem if the university does not want to make an investment in the football program, that's their call. However, their silence as to the future of the program, its goals and prospects is what is disturbing to me.
If they are not willing to make their objectives known, then stop asking me for financial support. Over the years, I have given tens of thousands of dollars supporting the football program, no more, not a single dime.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Mar 3, 2014 18:18:42 GMT -5
DFW HOYA, we are discussing the commitment to football, not the overall athletic budget of the University.
How about comparing the amount budgeted to football and facilities as compared to the other football programs in the Patriot League?
I don't have a problem if the university does not want to make an investment in the football program, that's their call. However, their silence as to the future of the program, its goals and prospects is what is disturbing to me.
If they are not willing to make their objectives known, then stop asking me for financial support. Over the years, I have given tens of thousands of dollars supporting the football program, no more, not a single dime.
No. We're not. You specifically said "GU's lack of commitment and direction to the Athletic Department is of far greater concern. All sports, including our once elite basketball program, are showing signs of not being able to compete at the highest level." And that was wrong.
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Post by puppydog100 on Mar 3, 2014 23:23:11 GMT -5
POD, what was wrong?
My last post was about football, and the administration's lack of commitment to the football program. DFW HOYA's response was the overall athletic budget, that's irrelevant. The football budget, and the lack of support from the alumni community is pathetic. The lack of alumni support is the direct result of the lack of commitment from Healy, it goes hand in hand.
It's okay, GU will continue to field a non-competitive football team. The alumni will not support the program, the students won't show up to games, and the players will be facing competition that puts them in harms way. Wonderful.
And by the way, if you believe that Hoya basketball is competitive with the elite programs, think again. If UConn, Cuse, Pitt, ND, Louisville and Cincy were still in the BE, how would we do? GU is getting out recruited. College basketball is changing rapidly, and GU is not keeping up to be competitive at the highest level. Hoya basketball will become a good program, a few upsets now and again, and the fair weather fans will stay at home as the Hoyas play in a half filled Verizon Center.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Mar 4, 2014 1:53:01 GMT -5
POD, what was wrong?
My last post was about football, and the administration's lack of commitment to the football program. DFW HOYA's response was the overall athletic budget, that's irrelevant. The football budget, and the lack of support from the alumni community is pathetic. The lack of alumni support is the direct result of the lack of commitment from Healy, it goes hand in hand.
It's okay, GU will continue to field a non-competitive football team. The alumni will not support the program, the students won't show up to games, and the players will be facing competition that puts them in harms way. Wonderful.
And by the way, if you believe that Hoya basketball is competitive with the elite programs, think again. If UConn, Cuse, Pitt, ND, Louisville and Cincy were still in the BE, how would we do? GU is getting out recruited. College basketball is changing rapidly, and GU is not keeping up to be competitive at the highest level. Hoya basketball will become a good program, a few upsets now and again, and the fair weather fans will stay at home as the Hoyas play in a half filled Verizon Center.
Again, read what you wrote. You were complaining about the overall athletic department commitment.
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Post by puppydog100 on Mar 4, 2014 11:34:58 GMT -5
Problem of Dog, if you would stop your silly little dance, and read what I wrote concerning football, then maybe we could have an intelligent conversation.
If you are okay with the football program, its direction and funding, fine with me. Two reasonably intelligent people can have a difference of opinion.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Mar 4, 2014 11:57:52 GMT -5
Problem of Dog, if you would stop your silly little dance, and read what I wrote concerning football, then maybe we could have an intelligent conversation.
If you are okay with the football program, its direction and funding, fine with me. Two reasonably intelligent people can have a difference of opinion. Then why did you complain about the athletic department as a whole and use other sports as your support?
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Post by puppydog100 on Mar 4, 2014 13:33:04 GMT -5
Problem of Dog, you're still doing your silly little dance.
Answer the question. Are you okay with the direction of the football program and the lack of a commitment from the Athletic Department and University administration? Yes or no.
If yes, I respect your opinion. If no, then we have the basis for discussion as to how to address the problem.
You are "dancing" around the issue.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Mar 4, 2014 14:40:12 GMT -5
No. But why did you say GU's lack of commitment to the athletic department was "of far greater concern"?
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guru
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Post by guru on Mar 4, 2014 14:55:35 GMT -5
No. But why did you say GU's lack of commitment to the athletic department was "of far greater concern"? Problem of Dog with a Frikkin' Bone
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Post by puppydog100 on Mar 4, 2014 16:06:18 GMT -5
Problem of Dog, if you're okay with the overall performance of Georgetown athletics, that's fine, you're opinion. I beg to differ.
But my focus is on football, that's were I have put my energy, and financial support.
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