dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on Jan 25, 2014 15:27:51 GMT -5
As I said on another thread, I watched the Creighton-Villanova game and what impressed me wasn't just the insane 3 point shooting by Wragge but the overall ball handling skill of all the players they had on the court. Chatham was especially impressive. I think that is what will kill us tonight. The reason they get so many good 3 point shots is that they find the open man and they find the open man because they pass so well. If we are to have any chance we will have to play ferocious defense and disrupt their ball handlers penetration and passing. yes. the 3s don't worry me. The ballhandling and aggressiveness by the guards worry me.
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dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on Jan 25, 2014 15:33:34 GMT -5
Ethan Wragge, 2-star recruit with only one skill, perimeter shooting. Austin Chatman, unranked, no rating Devin Brooks, unranked Juco How can we be expected to compete in this game with Creighton? They have so much raw talent. Creighton is the opposite of the Hoyas. They're organized, confident, and use their players' skills well. Tha said, if we magically became those things, we can easily hang with them. If Hop gets a wide open three in the offense today TAKE IT. He can make it. And this "that's not a good shot" argument goes out the window when a desperate runner from Markel is the usual outcome. On defense, make Wragge work. This means you have to be able to guard your man without fouling and communicate with your teammates. I'm fairly certain we have the "talent" to do that, we just have to show we can. Exactly what' I've been lobbying for in the Bowen and Hayes thread. But anyway, I like what you said about Wragge. Make him work.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 25, 2014 16:09:00 GMT -5
Rebound. Smart defense. Good shots. Who knows, stranger things have happened!
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 25, 2014 17:31:43 GMT -5
Rebound. Smart defense. Good shots. Who knows, stranger things have happened! Lots of TALKING on D and play loose / have fun on offense - stop playing like it's a final exam.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 25, 2014 17:37:35 GMT -5
Ethan Wragge, 2-star recruit with only one skill, perimeter shooting. Austin Chatman, unranked, no rating Devin Brooks, unranked Juco How can we be expected to compete in this game with Creighton? They have so much raw talent. Creighton is the opposite of the Hoyas. They're organized, confident, and use their players' skills well. Tha said, if we magically became those things, we can easily hang with them. If Hop gets a wide open three in the offense today TAKE IT. He can make it. And this "that's not a good shot" argument goes out the window when a desperate runner from Markel is the usual outcome. On defense, make Wragge work. This means you have to be able to guard your man without fouling and communicate with your teammates. I'm fairly certain we have the "talent" to do that, we just have to show we can. not that difficult to look good when you have a 4th year senior potential lottery pick. Our same crew with Otto last year did okay but we now lack that go too guy who can take the heat off everybody else. Markel and Lubick in particular are playing poorly without a superstar to draw the double and triple teams but that goes for everyone on the team. just imagine this same crew with a 4th year Otto. Everyone would look good. that's essentially what's happening with Creightons role players.
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dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on Jan 25, 2014 18:45:25 GMT -5
Rebound. Smart defense. Good shots. Who knows, stranger things have happened! Lots of TALKING on D and play loose / have fun on offense - stop playing like it's a final exam. Exactly! (like recent tourney games as well)
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 25, 2014 18:52:19 GMT -5
Rebound. Smart defense. Good shots. Who knows, stranger things have happened! Lots of TALKING on D and play loose / have fun on offense - stop playing like it's a final exam. +1000
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BurgerMadness
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Post by BurgerMadness on Jan 25, 2014 19:14:30 GMT -5
Rebound. Smart defense. Good shots. Who knows, stranger things have happened! Lots of TALKING on D and play loose / have fun on offense - stop playing like it's a final exam. If they could start this way that would be ideal. Trouble is they seem to lose their swaggy looseness over time and Coach doesn't exactly instill a sense of fun in pretty much anything. Expecting a very spirited game in a tough environment. I'd bet the spread, but not sure we cross the finish line first unfortunately.
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This Just In
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Post by This Just In on Jan 25, 2014 19:38:15 GMT -5
We are a 12pt underdog...
Creighton may be the better team, but I do not think that they are 12 points better than us.
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Post by This Just In on Jan 25, 2014 20:02:20 GMT -5
Last thoughts before the game:
1. Get off to a quick start; let Creighton know this is going to be a game all night long 2. Give up no easy shots, contest everything 3. Got to get the loose balls and crash the offensive and defensive glass 4. Try avoid putting Creighton on the line 5. Do not let McDermott beat us; make Creighton go thru the other players for points.
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Post by Boz on Jan 25, 2014 20:02:43 GMT -5
Well, we got Raf and Gus.
Raf loves us and everyone knows Gus loves the underdog.
If we can play well tonight, he's likely to lose his mind.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 25, 2014 20:05:48 GMT -5
Defense looking pretty good so far...lets keep it up.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 25, 2014 20:08:45 GMT -5
Lets hope Markel shoots well all night.
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Post by This Just In on Jan 25, 2014 20:09:03 GMT -5
Inbound defense is still bad
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 25, 2014 20:09:58 GMT -5
Hop doing well against McDermott but as usual he can't score.
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Post by This Just In on Jan 25, 2014 20:14:26 GMT -5
Hopper over passed there lead to the T.O. and Lubick with the air ball
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BurgerMadness
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Post by BurgerMadness on Jan 25, 2014 20:15:47 GMT -5
Worst Lubbick jumpshot ever?
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 25, 2014 20:16:20 GMT -5
Want lubick to take those but ugh was that ugly
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Post by This Just In on Jan 25, 2014 20:17:17 GMT -5
Moses might be hurt...hard fall on the elbow
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HoyaFanNY
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jan 25, 2014 20:18:57 GMT -5
wow this offense is tough to watch
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