skyhoya
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Post by skyhoya on Dec 3, 2013 10:17:41 GMT -5
wish some team other than an SEC could win the national championship.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Dec 3, 2013 15:32:59 GMT -5
wish some team other than an SEC could win the national championship. Even though I like LSU, I, too, am sick of the SEC winning every year. Perhaps this year we will get that FSU - Ohio State game, though everything I've heard and read says that if Auburn wins the SEC championship, they will go instead of Ohio State. Either way, I hope FSU wins this year.
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Post by Elvado on Dec 4, 2013 5:33:30 GMT -5
If Aunurn wins they should go. The Big 10 is a joke and Auburn just took out the champs.
That said I want FSU Auburn and OSU to lose so Bama can win again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 10:39:52 GMT -5
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 4, 2013 15:55:24 GMT -5
Let's not put the cart in front of the horse. I doubt there will be BCS controversy this season. I predict that Michigan State will beat Ohio State in Indianapolis. The national championship game will be played between the SEC Champion and Florida State (the Seminoles will cruise past the Duke Blue Devils). The last time I posted in this thread, I noted that Alabama had only played two real road games before its game at Mississippi State. Most of you probably didn't watch that game, but the Tide did its best to choke the game away in the fourth quarter, only to be bailed out multiple times by Mississippi State's woeful offense. (To be fair, the Bulldogs' senior QB had gone down with an injury and had been replaced by a freshman.) So let's look at Ohio State's road schedule. The Buckeyes have played five road games this season. They are: at Cal (The Bears finished 1-11 and did not win a Pac-12 game. Good thing they were able to beat Portland State by a TD!) at Northwestern (The Wildcats finished 5-7 and won their first Big Ten game of the season against Illinois last weekend) at Purdue (The Boilermakers, college football's longest running joke, finished 1-11 (beating Indiana State by 7), 0-8 in the Big Ten. at Illinois (The Illini finished 4-8 and 1-7 in the Big Ten, beating only (you guessed it) hapless Purdue.) at Michigan (Faced with a mediocre conference rival, the Buckeyes would have lost to the Wolverines (7-5, 3-5) if UM had converted its two-point attempt.) Who did the Buckeyes get at home? 1. An awesome slate of non-conference opponents (Buffalo, San Diego State, and FAMU) 2. Any halfway good team in the Big Ten that the Buckeyes didn't dodge (Wisconsin, Iowa) 3. A couple other Big Ten losers (Penn State, Indiana) If you look at it another way, there are four teams in the Big Ten with a winning record in the conference: Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Michigan State. Ohio State played two of them at the Horseshoe and didn't play the other two. (Looking for a reason to think the Buckeyes will win on Saturday? Well, Michigan State received somewhat favorable treatment from the Big Ten schedule-makers, too. The Spartans dodged both tOSU and Wisconsin in conference play. At least the Spartans looked impressive in beating Iowa and Nebraska on the road.) The point here is that being undefeated doesn't mean dick in an era where conferences and television networks arrange schedules to allow the "top teams" to dodge tough games so that they can be undefeated in December. Everyone should be rooting for Michigan State to end this fraud on college football fans. The New York Times ran an article this Sunday on "The Cash King of College Sports," Big Ten commish Jim Delaney. I think the article raises two questions. The first, commonly asked, is whether the top guys in college athletics actually care about the educational institutions to which athletic departments are attached. The other question, which should be asked more often, is whether these guys even care about college athletics. College football appears to be heading down a path where ADs and conference commissioners care more about television ratings and the money they bring than season ticket holders or student-athletes. I am no longer sure they care about the competition on the field, only the result (because Ws, not hard-fought losses, lead to greater television revenue). www.nytimes.com/2013/12/01/business/the-big-tens-bigger-footprint.html?hpw&rref=business&_r=0Note to all: Sorry about the lack of "Games That Matter" posts in this thread over the past few weeks. It has been a busy fall. I will try to do another rivalry recap at some point over the Christmas holiday. ON EDIT: On re-read, this all sounds a little bitter and cynical. I still love college football games, and last week's Iron Bowl was a wonderful example of how compelling the on-field action can be. Off the field, the structure of the game needs fixing, and it is frustrating to see the sport impacted by the mistakes of those who are motivated primarily by money.
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Post by Boz on Dec 4, 2013 16:59:54 GMT -5
I can't speak for everyone, but I can assure you that I will be rooting for Michigan State. More than I ever have before in my life.
As for your final comment, this past Saturday was simply one of the best overall football Saturdays I have had the pleasure to enjoy in my whole life. Being sick and pretty much unable to leave the couch for the entire Thanksgiving weekend has never felt so good.
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 4, 2013 21:29:57 GMT -5
Isn't Michigan State favored?
I will not be at all surprised if MSU beats tOSU. I also think tOSU is not championship calibur. A win over MSU would put that to rest, in part. I can't bring myself to root for tOSU, but there are two reasons why I won't be bothered if they win.
1. I'm sick of the SEC. That's why I was delighted with Auburn's win over Alabama - it at least raises the possibility of having an SECless championship game.
2. It will give Florida State an opportunity to shut up that OSU kid who said that OSU would mop the floor with either Alabama or FSU.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Dec 5, 2013 2:17:26 GMT -5
If UCONN or USF had gone undefeated this year, would they have been ranked in front of Auburn right now? Would they deserve to go to the national championship game over a 1 loss SEC champion? Of course not.
Well they both had a stronger SOS than Ohio State this year.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 5, 2013 10:12:54 GMT -5
Isn't Michigan State favored? I will not be at all surprised if MSU beats tOSU. I also think tOSU is not championship calibur. A win over MSU would put that to rest, in part. I can't bring myself to root for tOSU, but there are two reasons why I won't be bothered if they win. 1. I'm sick of the SEC. That's why I was delighted with Auburn's win over Alabama - it at least raises the possibility of having an SECless championship game. 2. It will give Florida State an opportunity to shut up that OSU kid who said that OSU would mop the floor with either Alabama or FSU. Ohio State is favored by six. I am also sick of the SEC, but SEC fans will continue to claim CFB dominance until an SEC team is defeated in the national championship game. If FSU and tOSU play for the title, SEC fans will simply whine that one of their teams would have made the game if not for the "SEC gauntlet."
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Dec 5, 2013 12:31:17 GMT -5
And Ohio State had a stronger SOS than Florida State.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 5, 2013 12:31:36 GMT -5
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Post by hoyainspirit on Dec 5, 2013 13:08:04 GMT -5
Appears he hasn't posted since Feb of this yr. on that forum. My guess is he's either sick or or behind bars. I miss hifi.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 6, 2013 10:58:12 GMT -5
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 6, 2013 11:56:11 GMT -5
And Ohio State had a stronger SOS than Florida State. This statement, when comparing overall schedules, is true (according to Jeff Sagarin, at least). The difference is that Florida State: 1) crushed Clemson (ranked #3 at the time) in Carolina, 2) pounded Miami (ranked #7 at the time) in Tallahassee, and stuffed its chief rival, Florida, at the Swamp. Ohio State, on the other hand, needed a bit of luck to squeak by Northwestern, Iowa, and Wisconsin. There is a reason that FSU is on top in the computer rankings by a significant margin despite its weaker schedule. Week 15 Picks for Games That Matter: Louisville defeated Cincinnati last night for the Keg of Nails Oklahoma State over Oklahoma in the Bedlam Game for the Bedlam Bell Rice over Marshall in the Conference USA Championship Game Texas upsets Baylor, giving Mack Brown a share of the Big 12 title in his final season as coach Auburn over Mizzou in the SEC Championship Game Arizona State over Stanford in the Pac-12 Championship Game (perhaps two of the best, and most underrated, football teams in the nation) Florida State over Duke Michigan State over Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship Game Fresno State over Utah State in the Mountain West Championship Game Thanksgiving week Rivalry Recap Texas defeated Texas Tech for the Chancellor's Spurs Mississippi State defeated Ole Miss in the Egg Bowl for the Golden Egg Iowa defeated Nebraska for the first time since 1981 for the Heroes Trophy Central Michigan defeated Eastern Michigan to win the Michigan MAC Trophy LSU squeaked by Arkansas for the Golden Boot Florida Atlantic defeated Florida International in the Shula Bowl for the Don Shula Award San Jose State defeated Fresno State U-Dub defeated Wazzu in the Apple Cup for the Apple Cup Trophy Oregon defeated Oregon State in the Civil War for the Platypus Trophy UCF defeated USF Florida State defeated Florida to win the Florida Cup Ohio State defeated Michigan Duke defeated North Carolina for the Victory Bell K-State defeated Kansas in the Sunflower Showdown for the Governor's Cup Colorado State defeated Air Force for the Ram-Falcon Trophy Auburn defeated Alabama in the Iron Bowl for the Foy-ODK Sportsmanship Trophy UGA defeated Georgia Tech in the Clean, Old-Fashioned Hate game for the Governor's Cup Indiana defeated Purdue for the Old Oaken Bucket Virginia Tech defeated U. Va. for the Commonwealth Cup for the 10th straight season Northwestern over Illinois for the Sweet Sioux Tomahawk Land of Lincoln Trophy Baylor over TCU (there will eventually be a name for this rivalry; the two schools loathe each other) Stanford over Notre Dame for the Legends Trophy Tennessee over Kentucky for the Beer Barrel South Carolina over Clemson in the Palmetto Bowl for the Hardee's Trophy (barf) UCLA over SC in the Battle for Los Angeles for the Victory Bell Arizona State over Arizona in the Duel in the Desert for the Territorial Cup
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 6, 2013 21:39:19 GMT -5
Isn't Michigan State favored? I will not be at all surprised if MSU beats tOSU. I also think tOSU is not championship calibur. A win over MSU would put that to rest, in part. I can't bring myself to root for tOSU, but there are two reasons why I won't be bothered if they win. 1. I'm sick of the SEC. That's why I was delighted with Auburn's win over Alabama - it at least raises the possibility of having an SECless championship game. 2. It will give Florida State an opportunity to shut up that OSU kid who said that OSU would mop the floor with either Alabama or FSU. Ohio State is favored by six. I am also sick of the SEC, but SEC fans will continue to claim CFB dominance until an SEC team is defeated in the national championship game. If FSU and tOSU play for the title, SEC fans will simply whine that one of their teams would have made the game if not for the "SEC gauntlet." I checked the odds, and I saw I was wrong. I don't know why, I thought I saw somewhere the Michigan State was favored by two. I hear you, Austin, but I don't care. Let them whine. The team that's really kicking itself right now has to be Missouri. If they hadn't blown that game against South Carolina, would they be ranked number 2 right now? I say yes. I'll say this, too. There's no denying that the SEC is very strong. Given that, aren't the turnarounds this year by Auburn and Missouri amazing? One would have been amazing by itself, but two? How do teams go from so bad to so good in such a strong conference? I'm not sure I've seen anything quite like this before.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 9, 2013 12:38:57 GMT -5
FWIW, football graduation rates for this year's BCS Bowl teams: Florida State: 55% Auburn: 64% Ohio State: 74% Clemson: 75% Alabama: 75% Oklahoma: 47% Baylor: 63% UCF: 83% Michigan State: 64% Stanford: 90% Source: www.scout.com/2/1273612.html
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Post by hoyainspirit on Dec 9, 2013 15:15:22 GMT -5
FWIW, football graduation rates for this year's BCS Bowl teams: Florida State: 55% Auburn: 64% Ohio State: 74% Clemson: 75% Alabama: 75% Oklahoma: 47% Baylor: 63% UCF: 83% Michigan State: 64% Stanford: 90% Source: www.scout.com/2/1273612.htmlGo Stanford!
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Dec 10, 2013 0:59:43 GMT -5
Whoever makes up the bowl game schedule must have a sense of humor. UNLV, getting a bowl bid for the first time in 10 years and 4th time in their history, plays North Texas. This is funny, since the present president of UNLV has resigned and will be president of North Texas next semester.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Dec 10, 2013 16:51:17 GMT -5
The gods are shining on Auburn. First the Inaccurate Deflection and now this. Sure was good to see Bama lose. Thanks, Ed. At least someone responded to my post. Is the Inaccurate Deflection the inverse of the Immaculate Reception? And here's something we can agree on - it's good to dethrone the king. Would that make the SEC the Bourbon dynasty?
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