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Post by FrazierFanatic on Sept 14, 2015 11:20:18 GMT -5
Seems clear to me. Loved his visit, ready to be a Hoya. But wants to visit some friends at USC and Clemson for free, so holding off on announcement!
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Post by wnyhoya on Sept 14, 2015 11:55:15 GMT -5
God I hope you're right Frazier!
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Post by dense on Sept 14, 2015 12:08:05 GMT -5
I am not that confident not to sound like a stalker but he and PJ Dozier tweet alot at each other. I think he is going to stay home.I hope I am wrong.
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Post by jld54 on Sept 14, 2015 12:13:48 GMT -5
I have developed a fatalistic approach. If Woods -- or any other recruit -- buys into the GU experience, then he is a fit and will come here. If not, and he likes the local, big school, less-demanding approach of a USC, so be it.
The top players have many options and GU is not in the mold of most other programs in terms of facilities, ESPN exposure, lighter academic demands, etc. But we do have many positives and it is just a question of fit.
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Post by SirSaxa on Sept 14, 2015 12:19:34 GMT -5
I am not that confident not to sound like a stalker but he and PJ Dozier tweet alot at each other. I think he is going to stay home.I hope I am wrong. Based on some interviews I've seen, I second your point about PJ, and Woods seems to have other good friends on that team too. He might think it would be cool to contribute to a surprise resurgence by his home state's team with his homeys. The list of attributes GU has - including a brand new practice facility that will open shortly before his arrival -- is compelling. Who knows how this young man will decide. My take on him (from afar) is he is a smart, responsible, talented kid and he will consider these and other things before making his decision. Good luck to him. Hope he chooses to become a Hoya!
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Post by dense on Sept 14, 2015 14:09:10 GMT -5
I have developed a fatalistic approach. If Woods -- or any other recruit -- buys into the GU experience, then he is a fit and will come here. If not, and he likes the local, big school, less-demanding approach of a USC, so be it. The top players have many options and GU is not in the mold of most other programs in terms of facilities, ESPN exposure, lighter academic demands, etc. But we do have many positives and it is just a question of fit. I don't think it has anything to do with buying in to GU. Like Sir Saxa says, He is close friends with 2 of the major players on that team. I think it's just going to be that. I hope I'm wrong but he and PJ seem super tight.
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Post by professorhoya on Sept 14, 2015 14:12:35 GMT -5
I have developed a fatalistic approach. If Woods -- or any other recruit -- buys into the GU experience, then he is a fit and will come here. If not, and he likes the local, big school, less-demanding approach of a USC, so be it. The top players have many options and GU is not in the mold of most other programs in terms of facilities, ESPN exposure, lighter academic demands, etc. But we do have many positives and it is just a question of fit. The new practice facility is huge in terms of attracting people IMO. I think the lack of a state of the art facility has hurt us in recruiting in the past but the idea of being the first ones to use the new practice facility is highly appealing to anyone in this years recruiting cycle.
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Post by hoyazeke on Sept 14, 2015 14:41:09 GMT -5
For those that "stalk" 7th on twitter: Does he converse at all with LJ? When he was at the USA tryouts with LJ did they hangout or are they from completely different parts of the State?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 14:48:58 GMT -5
Dont think thats a big deal at all... if he chooses sc it isnt going to be because doziers there primarily
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Sept 14, 2015 15:37:49 GMT -5
Fool me six times, shame on you. Fool me seven times, shame on me.
Call me nuts, but I think Seventh is going to become a Hoya.
Love the potential in this player and adds a missing dimension to the team.
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Post by tashoya on Sept 14, 2015 15:48:54 GMT -5
If the pull to stay close to home is that strong, kudos to Seventh for making the visit to Georgetown anyway. Regardless of one's age, it often happens that we think we know what is the right path without exploring other, possibly better ones. I'm hoping Seventh becomes a Hoya and, even if he doesn't, I appreciate how he's conducted his business. Talk about two very different schools. Seventh will certainly have plenty to compare and contrast if it comes down to Georgetown vs. USC.
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Post by daymondmyles on Sept 14, 2015 19:08:44 GMT -5
You'd think Frank Martin being a psycho would limit his ability to recruit, but it doesn't. Unfortunate.
Speaking of which, did Frank Martin make a deal with the devil when taking this job? How is there all this talent coming out of SC all of a sudden?
Finally, it amazes me that recruits put so much emphasis on whether they will be used at a certain position (like Dozier was with being a point guard) and whether there is competition at the position, and then, once there, will help recruit rivals for their positions.
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Post by dense on Sept 14, 2015 19:44:34 GMT -5
Most want to be able to show the NBA they can play that position. No one really knows if it is true about Seventh being that way but the recruiting chatter is that he wants to be a PG. He doesn't want to be a 6'2 2G. That's why Carolina makes no sense to me. Joel Berry isn't gonna be benched after Paige leaves. I wouldn't be shocked if he starts this year at PG with Paige as a 2. So when Seventh gets there I don't see Berry as a 6'0 2G. plus Nate Britt will still be there too as a Senior.
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Post by blueandgray on Sept 15, 2015 0:41:53 GMT -5
Another factor that may be in play here is that Woods is an under armour kid and SC is an under armour school. Not sure what role this is going to play, but there's that.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Sept 15, 2015 6:58:27 GMT -5
You'd think Frank Martin being a psycho would limit his ability to recruit, but it doesn't. Unfortunate. Speaking of which, did Frank Martin make a deal with the devil when taking this job? How is there all this talent coming out of SC all of a sudden? Finally, it amazes me that recruits put so much emphasis on whether they will be used at a certain position (like Dozier was with being a point guard) and whether there is competition at the position, and then, once there, will help recruit rivals for their positions. Recruits don't perceive him as a psycho. They see him as an intense coach who can help them get better. I am not saying that is or is not true, but it is not nearly as simple as some make it out to be.
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Post by hoya2x2010 on Sept 15, 2015 10:23:10 GMT -5
Agree with all the points about how this young man has conducted himself. His future is bright regardless of where he chooses to play. I'd just note that, even though he went the SC route instead of becoming a Hoya, I still considered Dozier's recruitment to be a very classy one. Just because one chooses to stay at home doesn't mean he's all of a sudden "not bright". I continue to wish the best for Dozier and I'm glad we recruited him.
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Post by Talos on Sept 15, 2015 10:37:43 GMT -5
You'd think Frank Martin being a psycho would limit his ability to recruit, but it doesn't. Unfortunate. Speaking of which, did Frank Martin make a deal with the devil when taking this job? How is there all this talent coming out of SC all of a sudden? Finally, it amazes me that recruits put so much emphasis on whether they will be used at a certain position (like Dozier was with being a point guard) and whether there is competition at the position, and then, once there, will help recruit rivals for their positions. Yeah, I wonder the same thing. Why would a kid want to subject themselves to verbal/physical abuse from a coach who doesn't even have a history of team success or developing players? At least with Bobby Knight you got excellent coaching and a good chance to play on winning teams...
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Post by professorhoya on Sept 15, 2015 12:10:50 GMT -5
You'd think Frank Martin being a psycho would limit his ability to recruit, but it doesn't. Unfortunate. Speaking of which, did Frank Martin make a deal with the devil when taking this job? How is there all this talent coming out of SC all of a sudden? Finally, it amazes me that recruits put so much emphasis on whether they will be used at a certain position (like Dozier was with being a point guard) and whether there is competition at the position, and then, once there, will help recruit rivals for their positions. Recruits don't perceive him as a psycho. They see him as an intense coach who can help them get better. I am not saying that is or is not true, but it is not nearly as simple as some make it out to be. Yup he's always been a super recruiter and had alot of charisma. That's what he was known in Florida when he won 3 high school state championships in a row. He attracted guys from around the state such as Steve Blake and Udnois Haslem to play for those teams by bringing them into the district and neighborhood. As far as I know he never played basketball at the college level so he really had to make his name for himself as a recruiter and hustler to break into the college ranks.
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Post by nychoya3 on Sept 15, 2015 13:04:50 GMT -5
Martin certainly acts like a lunatic on the sidelines, but he may well be charming and likable as a recruiter. That said, Michael Beasley is the most successful NBA player he's ever coached and he's on the borderline of the league despite being one of the 10 most talented players we've seen in the past decade. I'd wonder about that if I was a highly rated high schooler.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Sept 15, 2015 13:39:59 GMT -5
Martin may have recruited Beasley to K State and I give him credit for that but he did nothing in terms of development of his game. Beasley was a stud coming out of high school. It's hard for me to give any coach credit for developing anybody's game who' s only campus for 8 months and the coaches only work with them consistently for 6 months. He really just got out of Beasley way and let him do his thing while turning a blind eye to habitual habits that Beasley is known for having.
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