hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 8, 2013 9:07:44 GMT -5
Forrest Gump > Rudy ;D
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FormerHoya
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Post by FormerHoya on Jan 8, 2013 10:15:41 GMT -5
Austin, please make your pick against ND. It'll make me feel better. I think you should send me some cash first. PM me for PayPal info and we can get this done before 7:30 EST. ON EDIT: Notre Dame over Alabama, 30-27, in OT. Take heart, FormerHoya, I picked the Irish to beat BC and Southern Cal, too. Oh well. At least now I have someone to blame. ND was outclassed tonight, but the most amazing part to me was that either Saban is the evil genius he is supposed to be, and figured out a way to scheme Teo and Tuitt completely out of the game, or those two self-congratulated themselves out of the picture. If you had told me before the season that ND would lose in the National Championship, I would have been pretty happy with that, so I'll take it. Not that I have a choice.
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Post by Boz on Jan 8, 2013 11:10:58 GMT -5
It is within the realm of possibility that T'eo is a microcosm of his entire team.
i.e. - ridiculously overrated because of the jersey he wears.
Just sayin'.
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Post by FormerHoya on Jan 8, 2013 12:25:29 GMT -5
It is within the realm of possibility that T'eo is a microcosm of his entire team. i.e. - ridiculously overrated because of the jersey he wears. Just sayin'. I don't like talking ND football on this board because it is (for whatever reason) a particularly hostile place for it, but I'll make a brief exception. On Edit, I won't. It isn't good for my sanity.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 8, 2013 12:48:30 GMT -5
It is within the realm of possibility that T'eo is a microcosm of his entire team. i.e. - ridiculously overrated because of the jersey he wears. Just sayin'. I don't like talking ND football on this board because it is (for whatever reason) a particularly hostile place for it, but I'll make a brief exception. On Edit, I won't. It isn't good for my sanity. Aw, come on! We'll play nice
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Jan 8, 2013 13:18:16 GMT -5
What did I say that was so rude and offensive? (or untrue?)
Hey, I'm not saying ND didn't belong in that game....
...no, wait. Actually, I AM saying that.
But I am not saying that ND didn't earn their spot in that game. They certainly did. And I do not begrudge them that.
But it is equally plausible/arguable/up for consideration that they were overrated pretty much all season in terms of how good they actually were (and how good their opponents were). And quite a bit of that is related to their name.
This is a team that should have lost to Pitt, and would ahve lost to a Barkley-less USC team if Lane Kiffen were't such a moron.
Congratulations on a great season and all, but let's be real.
As for T'eo, yes, he has a lot of hardware. And again, congratulations. But I'm pretty sure Jadeveon Clowney, to name just one among many, might have a legit claim to some of that hardware. Except he doesn't play for America's darling team.
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Post by Elvado on Jan 8, 2013 13:32:58 GMT -5
I think the post game hug was Boyti Teo's best hit of the night.
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Post by guru on Jan 8, 2013 14:09:04 GMT -5
What did I say that was so rude and offensive? (or untrue?) Hey, I'm not saying ND didn't belong in that game.... ...no, wait. Actually, I AM saying that. But I am not saying that ND didn't earn their spot in that game. They certainly did. And I do not begrudge them that. But it is equally plausible/arguable/up for consideration that they were overrated pretty much all season in terms of how good they actually were (and how good their opponents were). And quite a bit of that is related to their name. This is a team that should have lost to Pitt, and would ahve lost to a Barkley-less USC team if Lane Kiffen were't such a moron. Congratulations on a great season and all, but let's be real. As for T'eo, yes, he has a lot of hardware. And again, congratulations. But I'm pretty sure Jadeveon Clowney, to name just one among many, might have a legit claim to some of that hardware. Except he doesn't play for America's darling team. Whoa - bitter much? I'm not an ND fan, but the fact is they didn't lose those games you mentioned, They were undefeated, and that has nothing to do with being America's "darling team." Having them in that game last night made it draw more interest than it otherwise would have - just look at the ratings. They did get their butts kicked and pretty much humiliated - isn't that enough for you?
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 8, 2013 14:12:46 GMT -5
This game is diminishing all of ND's defensive players draft prospects dramatically (two out with knee injures too)... Mante Te'o appears to have all the supposed Heisman rust. Is anyone really that surprised though? When you consider that Florida got rolled by Louisville, Georgia had a tough time with Nebraska, South Carolina won on basically the last play of the game and LSU lost on the last play of the game, I don't think it was unreasonable to think that this game would have been competitive. No such luck, though.
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FormerHoya
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Post by FormerHoya on Jan 8, 2013 14:20:51 GMT -5
What did I say that was so rude and offensive? (or untrue?) Hey, I'm not saying ND didn't belong in that game.... ...no, wait. Actually, I AM saying that. But I am not saying that ND didn't earn their spot in that game. They certainly did. And I do not begrudge them that. But it is equally plausible/arguable/up for consideration that they were overrated pretty much all season in terms of how good they actually were (and how good their opponents were). And quite a bit of that is related to their name. This is a team that should have lost to Pitt, and would ahve lost to a Barkley-less USC team if Lane Kiffen were't such a moron. Congratulations on a great season and all, but let's be real. As for T'eo, yes, he has a lot of hardware. And again, congratulations. But I'm pretty sure Jadeveon Clowney, to name just one among many, might have a legit claim to some of that hardware. Except he doesn't play for America's darling team. I didn't say you were rude or offensive, just that it doesn't make sense to talk ND here. There are plenty of places on these here internets to do that... I don't want to hifi the board.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 8, 2013 14:39:25 GMT -5
This is why there needs to be a playoff. You can't even say Notre Dame shouldn't have been there -- for plenty of people the alternative was Florida, who lost to Louisville. Or Stanford, who barely beat a six loss team. And it's not like Alabama was an unstoppable juggernaut all season -- they got a great matchup with a team that couldn't pass.
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Post by Boz on Jan 8, 2013 15:34:54 GMT -5
How am I bitter?
I very specifically said they earned their way into the game.
Yes, I think other teams are a lot better. But they didn't earn their way and ND did. Show me where I said otherwise.
My point about the "darling team" applied to T'eo and his awards, not to Notre Dame's records.
And yes, I will defend that. I don't think I need to be bitter to point out that he probably didn't deserve all those awards with the wealth of defensive talent and performance on many teams across the nation.
But if it makes you feel better, do I take a little extra schadenfreude in a team getting destroyed when one of their players announces "At Notre Dame you're expected to win national championships," even though they haven't been at that level in 25 years, and others talk about "when you win at other schools, you win a title; when you win at Notre Dame, you are a legend."
Yes. Yes, I do. Even Alabama people aren't that arrogant, and they have a lot more reason to be.
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Post by skyhoya on Jan 8, 2013 15:35:22 GMT -5
NBC media hype for the IRISH. It sold tix and advertising, what else is new?
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Post by rosslynhoya on Jan 8, 2013 17:02:33 GMT -5
This is why there needs to be a playoff. You can't even say Notre Dame shouldn't have been there -- for plenty of people the alternative was Florida, who lost to Louisville. Or Stanford, who barely beat a six loss team. And it's not like Alabama was an unstoppable juggernaut all season -- they got a great matchup with a team that couldn't pass. I think you just made a good case against a playoff. Bama indisputably won last night and there are no real casualties on the sidelines with a grievance that they should have been the ones to take a crack at the king instead of ND.
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Post by thebin on Jan 9, 2013 9:07:08 GMT -5
ESPN has apologized on behalf of Brent Musburger for making a meek joke about QBs dating beauty queens. In the land of the free and the home of the brave. Well as long as we're not worried about upsetting .01% of the population which might in turn make TV sponsors immediately crap their pants. Then we are the "land of the watch your mouth, home of the chickenchits." espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8825207/aj-mccarron-girlfriend-katherine-webb-spotlight-bcs-title-game"ESPN announcer Brent Musburger remarked that Webb was a beautiful woman as the cameras revisited her. "Wow, I'm telling you quarterbacks: You get all the good-looking women," he said. Some found the remarks from the 73-year-old Musburger out of line. On Tuesday, ESPN released this statement: "We always try to capture interesting storylines and the relationship between an Auburn grad who is Miss Alabama and the current Alabama quarterback certainly met that test. However, we apologize that the commentary in this instance went too far and Brent understands that." But Webb said Musburger's comments didn't bother her. "It was kind of nice," she said. "I didn't look at it as creepy at all. For a woman to be called beautiful, I don't see how that's an issue."
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Post by Boz on Jan 9, 2013 9:32:51 GMT -5
I think ESPN apologized mainly because the entire Internet was calling him a creepy old man, not because people were offended.
As a fellow creepy old man, I can confirm that Brent Musburger did, in fact, make it weird.
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Post by RDF on Jan 9, 2013 11:21:29 GMT -5
Brent is usually drunk or "Buzzed" by halftime and if people are offended, the NCAA should be by the fact he routinely mentions status of players/their pro status and with his brother being an agent that might be slight issue and more of an issue with NCAA, he is always mentioning the point spread in games--and referring to the "guys in Vegas". That's part of the Brent package. Personally--they should just give the top assignment to Nessler/Blackledge and they would have their best crew working but that's not for me to decide.
I'm not an ND fan at all but this crap about "they didn't deserve to be there" coming from people AFTER the game is laughable. They played Stanford at home, in a low scoring game that went to OT and won. The team EVERYONE now wanted to see play Alabama played Stanford at home, in a low scoring game in OT and lost. ND went undefeated, nobody else did. They earned the shot. This wasn't an overrated crappy Oklahoma getting in ahead of USC in ''03, or '08, or a bad Nebraska team going to Rose Bowl to fill seats and take a beating against Miami. This was a team who earned their trip and just got outclassed. That can happen and it did.
Sign of the mismatch was there--fact both teams played Michigan around same time of year and one destroyed them, other needed 6-8 turnovers to win by a TD. Pitt gashing ND on the ground in a style of offense that is similar to Alabama's approach--with far less talent obviously but Chryst operates an offense that Bama would probably watch the most on film as they want to run and in that game Teo really had some busts and struggled. Besides you want to see the game where a team similar to you had a lot of success. I just thought ND bailed on the run too early--and we saw UGA could run on Bama, LSU ran on them well too. Not like this was a vintage Alabama defense-they were young/talented but nothing like what we saw last year (nor should it be expected, few will ever be that great).
SEC is clearly the best league right now, they've proven it on the field and this "I'm sick of them" attitude is understandable as long as you can also acknowledge they've earned right to keep bragging and playing until some teams knock them off.
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Post by thebin on Jan 9, 2013 12:01:55 GMT -5
I don't think it is weird or creepy at all for an older guy to publically admit what EVERY single person (male and female) watching the broadcast was thinking. People act like he pulled a Namath or something. The staying power of American puritanism is legendary.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 9, 2013 12:28:01 GMT -5
I don't think it is weird or creepy at all for an older guy to publically admit what EVERY single person (male and female) watching the broadcast was thinking. People act like he pulled a Namath or something. The staying power of American puritanism is legendary. This. The furor over this issue is ridiculous. Brent got a little gushy, but so what?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 9, 2013 13:32:42 GMT -5
This is why there needs to be a playoff. You can't even say Notre Dame shouldn't have been there -- for plenty of people the alternative was Florida, who lost to Louisville. Or Stanford, who barely beat a six loss team. And it's not like Alabama was an unstoppable juggernaut all season -- they got a great matchup with a team that couldn't pass. I think you just made a good case against a playoff. Bama indisputably won last night and there are no real casualties on the sidelines with a grievance that they should have been the ones to take a crack at the king instead of ND. No, disagree. 1) Bama still lost a game this year. They really didn't dominate good teams except ND. 2) I really think if there were an 8 team playoff, three or four teams could win it. 3) We yet again had a generally ty, boring bowl season when we could have had a slew of great games. 4) Never underestimate what a difference the layoff makes. If this game is indisputable evidence ND was wildly overrated and Bama rules, then Louisville is better than Florida.
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