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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 15:13:36 GMT -5
Well I don't see any way GW is here in December of 15' unless he gets hurt again, same with Josh Smith. If I had to guess it would be DSR,Trawick,Peak, Copeland and some C(hopefully Elbert), If Crawford came i'd say Trawick would be the man to come in as the 6th man. like Ewing did. Josh and Tray will have both graduated by Dec 15’ ….. Unless something unforseen happens
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Post by prhoya on Sept 4, 2013 15:48:28 GMT -5
Josh and Tray will have both graduated by Dec 15’ ….. Unless something unforseen happens This.
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Post by hoopsmccan on Sept 4, 2013 17:14:59 GMT -5
Bigger assumption to think Whittington will stay more than 4 years at Georgetown. He will get picked even if he has an okay year next year. I think its more likely that Greg will almost certainly not play as a 5th year senior more than it is. Picked for what? hm
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Post by dense on Sept 4, 2013 17:57:36 GMT -5
Picked for the NBA, he would be a 2nd round pick if he came out after this year no matter what kinda of year he had if he played. 6-9 guys who can play on the perimeter don't grow on trees. You act as though you have to have this monster year to get picked not raw tools.
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Post by dense on Sept 4, 2013 17:59:38 GMT -5
Well I don't see any way GW is here in December of 15' unless he gets hurt again, same with Josh Smith. If I had to guess it would be DSR,Trawick,Peak, Copeland and some C(hopefully Elbert), If Crawford came i'd say Trawick would be the man to come in as the 6th man. like Ewing did. Josh and Tray will have both graduated by Dec 15’ ….. Unless something unforseen happens Thats right,lol. Mixed up. Well to answer his question. Then Crawford slides in even faster. day 1.
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Post by prhoya on Sept 4, 2013 18:37:51 GMT -5
Picked for the NBA, he would be a 2nd round pick if he came out after this year no matter what kinda of year he had if he played. 6-9 guys who can play on the perimeter don't grow on trees. You act as though you have to have this monster year to get picked not raw tools. I would suggest he sits down with D Summers and Hollis. Better to be ready as an all-around player than leaving early and ending up a journeyman or on the outside looking in...
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Post by dense on Sept 4, 2013 18:42:03 GMT -5
Picked for the NBA, he would be a 2nd round pick if he came out after this year no matter what kinda of year he had if he played. 6-9 guys who can play on the perimeter don't grow on trees. You act as though you have to have this monster year to get picked not raw tools. I would suggest he sits down with D Summers and Hollis. I think that the prevailing thought that all that kept Summers and Hollis from NBA greatness is leaving a year early is overblown by this board.
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Post by prhoya on Sept 4, 2013 18:45:25 GMT -5
I would suggest he sits down with D Summers and Hollis. I think that the prevailing thought that all that kept Summers and Hollis from NBA greatness is leaving a year early is overblown by this board. Not NBA greatness, just NBA. (Oops I was editing while you quoted)
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Sept 4, 2013 19:08:03 GMT -5
I would suggest he sits down with D Summers and Hollis. I think that the prevailing thought that all that kept Summers and Hollis from NBA greatness is leaving a year early is overblown by this board. We will never know - but we do know leaving early did not lead to solid NBA careers, so that will always leave room for speculation.
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Post by idhoya on Sept 4, 2013 22:03:39 GMT -5
Greg and Jeff look solid, but I get what you mean.
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Post by prhoya on Sept 4, 2013 22:35:09 GMT -5
Greg and Jeff look solid, but I get what you mean. Not the same. Greg and Jeff were projected to get drafted top 10. If GW is projected to go top 10 after the next season that he plays, then he will go. If he's projected somewhere around the second round, why not come back and improve your ranking? If there's a family/personal reason, then that's another story.
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Post by dense on Sept 4, 2013 23:36:20 GMT -5
DaJuan did make the NBA he was on the Pistons for 2 years before he got released. Hollis I don't think had a chance to be anything other than a specialist. Also I think DaJuan's lack of wanting to be anything other than a stand still shooter with his gifts has more to do with him not being in the NBA.That wasn't changing if he was at Georgetown for 15 years.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Sept 5, 2013 8:53:27 GMT -5
I think it's a big assumption to assume that Whittington will leave for the NBA after the 2014-2015 season. I hope he does - it would mean he played great and we had a great season (possibly with March success) - but I think it's a pretty big leap. Greg is talented and could certainly live up to NBA potential eventually, but keep in mind he'll begin the 2014-2015 season having not played a real college basketball game for almost 2 years. That works both ways - it means he will have had plenty of time to improve and mature, but it also means that he will have lost time as a result of the injuries. At this point, I think that it's more likely than not that Greg will be playing as a 5th year senior, but I hope I'm wrong if it means he goes to the NBA early. Bigger assumption to think Whittington will stay more than 4 years at Georgetown. He will get picked even if he has an okay year next year. I think its more likely that Greg will almost certainly not play as a 5th year senior more than it is. The idea that Whittington will get picked in the draft even if he had an okay year seems wrong to me. Hollis Thompson had an "okay" junior year, left, and didn't get drafted. So far, Whittington hasn't been as good as Hollis. Does Greg have more potential than Hollis did? Maybe. If Greg decided to leave because he graduates and is ready, fine, but from a basketball perspective I don't think it would make sense for him to leave if he had an "okay" year.
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Post by prhoya on Sept 5, 2013 9:09:20 GMT -5
DaJuan did make the NBA he was on the Pistons for 2 years before he got released. Hollis I don't think had a chance to be anything other than a specialist. Also I think DaJuan's lack of wanting to be anything other than a stand still shooter with his gifts has more to do with him not being in the NBA.That wasn't changing if he was at Georgetown for 15 years. Both should be used as examples for similar players. If you have an attitude problem, here's what could happen to your basketball career. If you think you're a specialist, you better be extra special. On the other hand, if you work your tail off, here's Roy Hibbert or Jeff Green. Again, if it's a case of "don't want to be in school anymore" or family/personal needs, then good luck in making the jump and sticking. Just have your passport ready...
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Sept 5, 2013 10:27:07 GMT -5
I hate to further go off-topic here, but I think there are really two questions here that are different:
(1) Will Whittington's performance be good enough to be drafted after 2014-2015? - There's no way to know the answer to this question, really. As I said, my opinion is that given the past, there's certainly no guarantee that it will be, and really the odds are against it when you consider how few guys are good enough to realistically have a shot at getting drafted.
(2) If Whittington is good enough to be drafted after 2014-2015, should he go? - This is really a subjective choice. If you are really good (i.e., a top 10-15 pick), it's hard to make a mistake going into the draft, and you could even hurt your standing (arguably, Hibbert may have gotten drafted higher as a junior). I think the hardest choice is if you are lower first round or second, since there's no guaranteed money and you might not even make the team. - For DaJuan Summers, he at least got 2 years out of it, which is better than most. Whether Hollis Thompson will ever get there is something to be seen. - My opinion is that if your senior year offers the chance to jump from a low (or non-existent) draft pick to a higher pick, it's a no-brainer to stay. Sure, there might be some bias against seniors, but if you are a good player and show it, you are going to help your draft stock. Plus, you're not really giving up all that much by staying (since the NBA isn't a guarantee anyway).
As far as basketball is concerned, the only way you can really hurt yourself by staying another year is if you are like Otto Porter, and you get drafted very high, or if you have a bad injury. If there are other reasons to leave (graduated, ready to move on, etc.), then I think that's totally different.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 11:41:06 GMT -5
Edgar Walker @edgar_Walker 9 Sep Gonzaga 2015 PG Bryant Crawford is the lone DMV member of this year's USA Basketball Developmental Team roster: www.usab.com/mens/u17/13_mdnt_oct_mini_camp_roster.html … Daniel Martin @dmartincsn 9 Sep Gonzaga (D.C.), Team Takeover PG Bryant Crawford has been invited to the 2013 USA Men’s Developmental National Team Mini-Camp in October.
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Post by rpn6 on Oct 15, 2013 20:48:18 GMT -5
@josh_Stirn: Georgetown is really putting the fullcourt press on Bryant Crawford. They've seen him 3 times in the last month or so.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 22:35:42 GMT -5
@josh_Stirn: Georgetown is really putting the fullcourt press on Bryant Crawford. They've seen him 3 times in the last month or so. And they will be at Gonzaga again tomorrow… The new staff is aggressive and I approve..
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Post by CaliHoya on Oct 16, 2013 20:30:53 GMT -5
What do we think our chances are with Bryant, arguably one of the top few PGs in the class? I'd hope JT3's connection as an alumnus of Gonzaga would help, but who knows...
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Post by idhoya on Oct 17, 2013 16:05:21 GMT -5
from what I hear he loves IU. Say what you want about Crean, but his asst. coach hire was smart and he seems embedded in DC.
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