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Post by lichoya68 on Apr 16, 2012 9:07:32 GMT -5
heck earmark away ITS WASH DC THE HOME OF EAR MARKS. but remember we need to keep regular donations up to to fund current years expenses. 1951 LETS GET IT DONE.
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Post by kchoya on Apr 16, 2012 9:42:50 GMT -5
It should be earmarked if you want it to go to the IAC. Otherwise, it will go into current use athletics funds. Anyone know if I can make a donation to GULC and earmark it for athletics or the IAC?
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Post by calhoya on Apr 16, 2012 9:45:41 GMT -5
It should be earmarked if you want it to go to the IAC. Otherwise, it will go into current use athletics funds. Anyone know if I can make a donation to GULC and earmark it for athletics or the IAC? I was informed that my prior donations to GULC would be exclusively used at the Law Center.
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Post by Ottomatic on Apr 16, 2012 18:35:33 GMT -5
What date are we looking at this being completed and used as a + in recruiting?
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Post by lichoya68 on Apr 16, 2012 18:49:54 GMT -5
asap hopefully
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 16, 2012 22:57:24 GMT -5
For those interested in making a donation to the IAC, feel free to PM me and I can point you in the right direction.
Just today, I had a chance to see the detailed plans of the IAC and all I can say is that this would be a game changer for GU athletics. If we can raise the necessary funds to make this happen (and I am hopeful we can), we are looking at a completion date as early as 2014.
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Post by nathanhm on Apr 17, 2012 7:17:42 GMT -5
For those interested in making a donation to the IAC, feel free to PM me and I can point you in the right direction. Just today, I had a chance to see the detailed plans of the IAC and all I can say is that this would be a game changer for GU athletics. If we can raise the necessary funds to make this happen (and I am hopeful we can), we are looking at a completion date as early as 2014. completion of fundraising or completion of the building being built?
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Post by rosslynhoya on Apr 17, 2012 7:26:44 GMT -5
For those interested in making a donation to the IAC, feel free to PM me and I can point you in the right direction. Just today, I had a chance to see the detailed plans of the IAC and all I can say is that this would be a game changer for GU athletics. If we can raise the necessary funds to make this happen (and I am hopeful we can), we are looking at a completion date as early as 2014. completion of fundraising or completion of the building being built? Pshaw! Completion of the preliminary fundraising pre-planning stage of course. They may tear down the tennis courts, etc., by mid-2014, with the groundbreaking for actual new construction to begin sometime in 2016.
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Post by kchoya on Apr 17, 2012 8:03:17 GMT -5
For those interested in making a donation to the IAC, feel free to PM me and I can point you in the right direction. Just today, I had a chance to see the detailed plans of the IAC and all I can say is that this would be a game changer for GU athletics. If we can raise the necessary funds to make this happen (and I am hopeful we can), we are looking at a completion date as early as 2014. Game changer? By that you mean bringing GU athletics in to the 20th century?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 17, 2012 8:06:03 GMT -5
I don't know where the old thread on this is but the outline I heard was that we'd go before the Zoning commission on April 26th. That still seems to be holding true. That it could take 3 months until we heard the result from them So say beginning of August. From that date we had a year to break ground(so assuming our difficulty fund raising) we break ground Summer of 2013. Then a year year and a half later the building opens. It all depends on how quickly we raise the money, but the building should be done 2014 or 2015 at the latest.
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 17, 2012 8:19:59 GMT -5
Correct HSB. Completion of building built by as early as 2014.
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Post by hoyatables on Apr 17, 2012 8:32:33 GMT -5
I don't know where the old thread on this is but the outline I heard was that we'd go before the Zoning commission on April 26th. That still seems to be holding true. That it could take 3 months until we heard the result from them So say beginning of August. From that date we had a year to break ground(so assuming our difficulty fund raising) we break ground Summer of 2013. Then a year year and a half later the building opens. It all depends on how quickly we raise the money, but the building should be done 2014 or 2015 at the latest. We go to the Zoning Commission on April 26th, 6:30 PM. Keep in mind that the plans that go to the Zoning Commission (and groups like OGB) are concept plans. And that we still have to return to OGB for concept approval of the building design (all that has been approved so far is siting and massing). It takes months to actually design the interior of the building once you have locked down the exterior, and then a few additional months to prepare plans for, file for, and secure a building permit. And mind you, you also need to raise millions of dollars to actually fund the building as well. All of this is to say that 2014 is optimistic. That said, the building does look fantastic. I'm going to see if I can get GU to post the plans online somewhere so everyone can take a gander.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Apr 17, 2012 9:19:35 GMT -5
I don't know where the old thread on this is but the outline I heard was that we'd go before the Zoning commission on April 26th. That still seems to be holding true. That it could take 3 months until we heard the result from them So say beginning of August. From that date we had a year to break ground(so assuming our difficulty fund raising) we break ground Summer of 2013. Then a year year and a half later the building opens. It all depends on how quickly we raise the money, but the building should be done 2014 or 2015 at the latest. We go to the Zoning Commission on April 26th, 6:30 PM. Keep in mind that the plans that go to the Zoning Commission (and groups like OGB) are concept plans. And that we still have to return to OGB for concept approval of the building design (all that has been approved so far is siting and massing). It takes months to actually design the interior of the building once you have locked down the exterior, and then a few additional months to prepare plans for, file for, and secure a building permit. And mind you, you also need to raise millions of dollars to actually fund the building as well. All of this is to say that 2014 is optimistic. That said, the building does look fantastic. I'm going to see if I can get GU to post the plans online somewhere so everyone can take a gander. The interior design hasn't even been started yet? This wasn't done with the design of the exterior?? I understand architectural plans are another animal, but seems like while all this process was going on that these could have been started and altered to reflect any significant changes to the outside created during the approval process which should have been minimal (mainly aesthetic like windows, not much that would require massive overhauls to interior plans). The IAC was approved to be built as part of the last 10 year plan so it cant be a matter of not wanting to commission it as they were not sure it would ever be built. It was a matter of as you said of siting and massing approval. Once it was in principle/bulk had been approved (and again correct me as I'm sure there is a good explanation for this) the drawings could have started while the facade issues like window size were worked out over the past few months. Seems like we're moving in slow motion here. Designing the interior should have been done long ago, no? Again I understand the architectural plans are a different thing altogether, but if I'm reading correctly the interior has yet to be envisioned in concept at all? There are interior design plans. -Admin
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Post by lichoya68 on Apr 17, 2012 9:31:56 GMT -5
1951 tooooooo 2014 sounds great to me LETS GET IT DONE good luck with all the approvals yes GO HOYAS
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Post by kchoya on Apr 17, 2012 10:21:23 GMT -5
There are interior design plans. -Admin So what to make of this statement from hoyatables: "It takes months to actually design the interior of the building once you have locked down the exterior[.]" I understand the interior may have to be modified slightly based on the final exterior approved by the alphabet soup of DC agencies. However, I can't imagine that the actual structure of the buildign will change so much that it would take months to modify the plans for the interior (to the extent they exist).
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 17, 2012 10:51:16 GMT -5
perhaps they mean that while there are general interior plans( which have been shown around) Like the weight room is here and the study room is there. There are not more concrete plans beyond that.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Apr 17, 2012 10:57:33 GMT -5
Architectural building plans are different than design plans. I was thrown off by tables comment that the interior still needed to be designed. Architectural plans I understand take time, however I still don't see why even these haven't been started once it was clear it would be approved after jumping through hoops. Again, the building wasn't going to change all that drastically from the submitted design. Mechanical, electric, etc could have definitely been started even if the rooms were considered "spec" spaces but even those with a design could have been close with minimal changes
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Post by hoyatables on Apr 17, 2012 11:00:09 GMT -5
There are interior design plans. -Admin So what to make of this statement from hoyatables: "It takes months to actually design the interior of the building once you have locked down the exterior[.]" I understand the interior may have to be modified slightly based on the final exterior approved by the alphabet soup of DC agencies. However, I can't imagine that the actual structure of the buildign will change so much that it would take months to modify the plans for the interior (to the extent they exist). Yes, there are general interior plans, of course. I'm talking about the structural, mechanical, electrical, plumbing, etc. You can't really fully design all of that until you know what your box will look like. And you don't want to waste a lot of time (and money) designing to that level of detail until the box is set. Same goes for the exterior finishes. The design process is an iterative process. When projects go to zoning, they are typically anywhere between 35% to 50% of their full design. From 50% to 100% is largely unnoticed by the layperson, but there's a lot of detailed architectural and engineering work left to do. Interior was perhaps a poor choice of words. "Internal" might have been a better choice. Architectural building plans are different than design plans. I was thrown off by tables comment that the interior still needed to be designed. Architectural plans I understand take time, however I still don't see why even these haven't been started once it was clear it would be approved after jumping through hoops. Again, the building wasn't going to change all that drastically from the submitted design. Mechanical, electric, etc could have definitely been started even if the rooms were considered "spec" spaces but even those with a design could have been close with minimal changes It wasn't clear until April 5 that this general massing and siting was going to be approved. And it's still not clear until (1) CFA approves OGB's recommendation on Thursday and (2) the Zoning Commission agrees with OGB next Thursday. The current design differs significantly from what was filed with zoning and OGB last fall.
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Post by kchoya on Apr 17, 2012 12:48:28 GMT -5
So what to make of this statement from hoyatables: "It takes months to actually design the interior of the building once you have locked down the exterior[.]" I understand the interior may have to be modified slightly based on the final exterior approved by the alphabet soup of DC agencies. However, I can't imagine that the actual structure of the buildign will change so much that it would take months to modify the plans for the interior (to the extent they exist). Yes, there are general interior plans, of course. I'm talking about the structural, mechanical, electrical, plumbing, etc. You can't really fully design all of that until you know what your box will look like. And you don't want to waste a lot of time (and money) designing to that level of detail until the box is set. Same goes for the exterior finishes. The design process is an iterative process. When projects go to zoning, they are typically anywhere between 35% to 50% of their full design. From 50% to 100% is largely unnoticed by the layperson, but there's a lot of detailed architectural and engineering work left to do. Interior was perhaps a poor choice of words. "Internal" might have been a better choice. How big are the exterior changes? If it's a matter of more glass here, less brick there, etc., I don't see why that changes the internal design in a material way. Are we adding/subtracting floors? Changing the footprint of the building?
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Post by hoyatables on Apr 17, 2012 13:10:25 GMT -5
Yes, there are general interior plans, of course. I'm talking about the structural, mechanical, electrical, plumbing, etc. You can't really fully design all of that until you know what your box will look like. And you don't want to waste a lot of time (and money) designing to that level of detail until the box is set. Same goes for the exterior finishes. The design process is an iterative process. When projects go to zoning, they are typically anywhere between 35% to 50% of their full design. From 50% to 100% is largely unnoticed by the layperson, but there's a lot of detailed architectural and engineering work left to do. Interior was perhaps a poor choice of words. "Internal" might have been a better choice. How big are the exterior changes? If it's a matter of more glass here, less brick there, etc., I don't see why that changes the internal design in a material way. Are we adding/subtracting floors? Changing the footprint of the building? The entire footprint and massing changed from last fall to this spring. Its now a more compact footprint that is pulled up alongside McDonough, rather than the wider footprint that sat in front of McDonough in previous schemes. New mass is four stories tall at the rear, and two stories tall at the front, with a full floor below grade. As a result, the internal layout is completely different as well. Still has all of the features that were in the previous design, just rearranged.
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