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Post by GUMBA on Jan 23, 2012 1:04:57 GMT -5
They hate us. Almost as much as we hate Syracuse. I expect 1978 Van Halen - Oh, oh, oh Jamie's crying. Whatever Chuck Norris has for dinner, feed it to Henry and Nate. The Hack-A-Hank, Hold-A-Hollis,Jostle-A-Jason strategy is going to be in full force. Need a good game and solid perimeter shooting from our guards.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Jan 23, 2012 1:21:34 GMT -5
The Hoyas need to do something to cheer me up after that heartbreaking loss my Ravens suffered today ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cry.png)
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Post by lichoya68 on Jan 23, 2012 8:05:06 GMT -5
Beat Pitt nuf said and no caps either. Go Hoyas please because it is now february for real . ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png)
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Post by sleepy on Jan 23, 2012 9:33:16 GMT -5
This week in practice may be the most important six days for the team has we move into february. The eye test still tells me that we maybe closer to a 3-5 team than 6-2. The defense continues to grow and get better and should continue to improve with experience. Still needs alot of work especially with Whit when he plays down low.
This may be the week to find some semblance of offensive consistency. Clealy Markel needs to approach the level of play he displayed a month ago and the freshman need to grow up quick in running the offense. In the end I still think we must get scoring down low time for Henry or someone to provide some consistency inside.
Time for this team to grow up. At PiTT, Uconn, USF, CUSE and it only gets more difficult. Big week of practice To Quote Lic "nuf said its february GO HOYAS "
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Post by Boz on Jan 23, 2012 9:49:52 GMT -5
Pitt hates us???
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Post by skyhoya on Jan 23, 2012 10:29:07 GMT -5
not as much as Penn State and Temple
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Post by GUMBA on Jan 23, 2012 12:42:27 GMT -5
It is my perception that Jamie Dixon and JTIII do not like each other. I don't know if it has to do with the Sam Young recuritment or something else in years past but Dixon always sells the Hoyas short in public - even after we snapped their 31 game home winning streak at the Peterson Center. Jamie never says that we beat them, they always beat themselves, blah, blah, blah. No credit is given to the Hoyas. Basically Pitt thinks they are tough and we are soft. Dixon recurits hard against JTIII's system and style of play. DeJuan Blair mocked us openly when they won at the Verizon Center a few years ago. Showed slighty more class than Dominique Jones but not much. Now that they are basically an ACC team and have begun their downward spiral a la Benedict Arnold College into college basketball hell somewhere undernearth the storied programs of Tobacco Road, they will be that much more fun to beat. Mark Nordenberg's move to take them out of the Big East bordered on criminal. And they left arm in arm with Syracuse. Do we need any more reasons to beat them like a drum?
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Post by skyhoya on Jan 23, 2012 12:50:48 GMT -5
do you think Jamie will stay at PITT after the move to the ACC?
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jan 23, 2012 13:13:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I fear this game, because it is on the road before a hostile crowd, and I think Pitt is better on paper than they have been on the floor. I just hope they don't figure it out for our game. We failed to beat one of the traitors (WVU); let's beat this one and the other one. We are due for a good game offensively. We have to take them seriously and not look at their record. If we do that, we should be okay.
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Post by OldHoyafan on Jan 23, 2012 14:10:28 GMT -5
This will be a tough game for these young Hoyas because Pitt is desperate. Not only have they not won a coference game, but they have no victory over a ranked team. If the young Hoyas thought they were getting felt up every offensive set against Rutgers, they will feel like filing aggravated assault charges against the Pitt defensive players after Saturdays game. Clark, Sims and Thompson who have been through these hand-to-hand combat battles, will have to show by example what is needed to win. They will have to show toughness by driving and cutting all the way to the basket, despite being bumped and held without a foul being called. Do not expect a call from the refs. Do not try to bump or hold by falling or stumbling off stride. Take the hit or hold and continue to the basket with real intent to score then instead of from the free throw line, especially Henry. Henry has gotten the " Monroe disease" of missing chippies around the basket. Stop fading away from contact and go to and through contact. Right now Jabril is the only Hoya who seeks contact as he is driving to the basket. The whirled-derby moves to avoid contact by Thompson and Sims are pretty but this game will not be a beauty contest but more like a neighborhood pickup game without referees. Where you call your own fouls and you don't call anything that does not draw blood. I know it's easy for this "arm-chair" fan to call for seeking contact but as a long time watcher of Pitt BE games, this is what will take place and upperclassman leadership will be needed in this more so than ever. Don't cry for foul Henry and Hollis it will not be called the majority of the time. Go and watch film of Green/PE,Jr./Hibbert play against Pitt enough said.
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Post by Dhall on Jan 23, 2012 14:47:21 GMT -5
I understand how we as fans can be nervous about this game, but I'd rather have our players take the attitude that there is blood in the water and we are going to destroy them. When this team has played with confidence, they play quicker (both Memphis games, Louisville, Depaul stick out but I haven't checked the geek sites for the statistical analysis) and better. When they play nervous and slow, they run into trouble. I'd much rather see our field goal percentage go down a few ticks but get 10-15 more shots per game on the basis that we are simply better than Pitt and therefore more possessions is better for us.
So Pitt is bad, and we are good. Now punish them.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 23, 2012 15:02:06 GMT -5
I understand the reasons to be concerned, but hasn't Pittsburgh played this style of defense against everybody else in the Big East and lost every game so far? If they lost to DePaul and others, I don't see why our more talented team cannot beat them. I realize this is not the best matchup for Georgetown, but we should be able to win this if we have any semblance of an offense.
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Post by GUJook97 on Jan 23, 2012 15:31:05 GMT -5
...Pitt is really struggling offensively though. I hope they get their first BE before then. Hopefully, tonight against Lville. Ah! The old "I don't like to play them if they have a losing streak because they will break it against us" point of view... ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Setting the bar very low again, Jook? No lessons learned from the Rutgers game? ;D Ha, its a silly attitude, I admit, but it's the way of the irrational fan. Many others have said the same here. We are much better than Pitt, though, and I agree with what was said above. It's not like their style has produced results over less talented teams.
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Post by OldHoyafan on Jan 23, 2012 16:11:08 GMT -5
I understand the reasons to be concerned, but hasn't Pittsburgh played this style of defense against everybody else in the Big East and lost every game so far? If they lost to DePaul and others, I don't see why our more talented team cannot beat them. I realize this is not the best matchup for Georgetown, but we should be able to win this if we have any semblance of an offense. True, but in the past 3 seasons the Hoyas have let this type of defense make them into a 3pt shooting team only instead of going all the way though with the hard cut or all the way to the basket. Other teams individual players offensive prowess of getting to the basket or finding open man after drawing the defense, like Siva for Louisville, has enabled them to breakdown Pitt"s efense. The Hoyas usually do not rely on one guy, but use a team concept.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jan 23, 2012 16:29:58 GMT -5
Yeah I'm concerned because I'm not fully convinced that Pitt is as terrible as they've seemed this season. Plus BE road games are difficult no matter the opponent. And it's one of those games that if you lose looks terrible( like any loss to a midmajor) even if it isn't necessarily.
Pitt fans seem convinced the problem is lack of talent, but that's clearly not the case I mean they have to have at least equal amounts of talent as some of the teams they've already lost to: Depaul, Wagner etc. There are chemistry and deficiencies that are more to blame rather than "talent". They have enough talent that if they put together a complete game they can beat us if we play poorly.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 23, 2012 16:55:15 GMT -5
As is typical, there's good news/bad news on the match-up front.
Pitt is not particularly good at forcing turnovers (318th in the country) or defense in general.
On offense -- where Pitt has actually been extremely good for most of Dixon's run (not the defense, which is what announcers will tell you) -- Pitt is still good but not nearly as good as they usually are.
Much of that could honestly be chalked up to Woodall and bad shooting -- Pitt is always a strong passing team that creates off dribble penetration. Asking Gibbs to do that is silly, as he's needed to finish. That said, even with Woodall, I think they miss Brad Wanamaker.
On the other hand, they are a beastly offensive rebounding team, and they are going to be a pain to keep off the boards. They collect 45% of their misses! You're basically playing D twice every other possession. Ugh.
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Post by NCHoya on Jan 23, 2012 17:07:44 GMT -5
I was worried about this game until Pitt, with all the hype of ESPN and the sold out, high energy atmosphere, got beat by a good but not Top 20-caliber UL team.
It will be interesting to see how they respond against PC after dropping a game like that, when you know they wanted a W in the worst way. With failing confidence and chemistry issues, the best thing for the Hoyas to do is come out and punch them in the mouth. We are very capable of holding Pitt under 50 points. So if we hit a few shots this one should be over early.
I think most of you guys are scared of the name on the jersey, but everything that I have seen to this point makes me think Pitt is just a bad team.
Can we lose? - Yes, but if we bring our B minus game we win.
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Post by NCHoya on Jan 23, 2012 17:10:22 GMT -5
As is typical, there's good news/bad news on the match-up front. Pitt is not particularly good at forcing turnovers (318th in the country) or defense in general. On offense -- where Pitt has actually been extremely good for most of Dixon's run (not the defense, which is what announcers will tell you) -- Pitt is still good but not nearly as good as they usually are. Much of that could honestly be chalked up to Woodall and bad shooting -- Pitt is always a strong passing team that creates off dribble penetration. Asking Gibbs to do that is silly, as he's needed to finish. That said, even with Woodall, I think they miss Brad Wanamaker. On the other hand, they are a beastly offensive rebounding team, and they are going to be a pain to keep off the boards. They collect 45% of their misses! You're basically playing D twice every other possession. Ugh. Watching RU - Pitt earlier this year they spoke about that O-board stat. I wonder how much of that is a product of the early season schedule. Are they boarding at the same against BE competition? If so, hard to believe they have not won yet.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 23, 2012 17:32:40 GMT -5
43.5% in conference play. Barely a drop-off.
They've shot horribly in conference, turned over the ball and not played any D.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 23, 2012 17:57:50 GMT -5
Defense and cutting on the lazy turnovers wins this game... wait, plus rebounding... oh, and Hollis coming to play.
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