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Post by SSHoya on Jan 7, 2018 15:56:33 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 8, 2018 18:55:13 GMT -5
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jan 9, 2018 14:51:45 GMT -5
For MCI: I know +/- numbers don't mean much, but last night Jeff had 22 points and a +7 rating, Mr. James had 10 points and a -39 rating.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 15, 2018 20:18:12 GMT -5
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Post by jorand on Jan 15, 2018 21:10:22 GMT -5
I wish that was the sole reason but I don't believe thats the case. Otto for whatever reason is a passive player.Too passive....
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 16, 2018 14:51:26 GMT -5
I wish that was the sole reason but I don't believe thats the case. Otto for whatever reason is a passive player.Too passive.... I've watched almost all the Wiz games this year. Porter was en fuego early in the season. As Tom Boswell in his WaPo weekly chat on Porter notes, his drop off has coincided with injuries altho he also recognizes his passivity or in Boswell's words "being unselfish by nature" with a tendency to "go into a shell and play Team Ball." The player who has fallen off the most is Otto Porter. He was playing like one of the top 30 players in the league early in the season for 20+ games with his numbers up (after getting the max contract) in almost every area. For weeks, coinciding with injuries and games missed entirely, he's been an anchor. Now, it looks like Wall and Beal have some words for their Third Star. The risk with Porter is that, even after gaining almost 30 pounds since his rookie year, he's still slender. Is he able to play very well when he's hobbled or, being unselfish by nature, will he go into a shell and play Team Ball instead? Porter is a player who will always try to go and play. But, in my book, he's also a player who needs to be closer to 100 percent to be effective than some more gifted players like Wall and Beal. That's a tough situation for a coach to handle when all three are playing on enormous >$100M contracts. live.washingtonpost.com/ask-boswell-20180115.html?hpid=hp_local-news_livechat-boz-11am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
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Post by jorand on Jan 18, 2018 13:53:58 GMT -5
After last night's debacle (Wiz vs Hornets) Brooks is considering lineup changes.
Don't be surprised if Otto moves to the bench.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 19, 2018 20:17:00 GMT -5
After last night's debacle (Wiz vs Hornets) Brooks is considering lineup changes. Don't be surprised if Otto moves to the bench. Porter still in starting lineup. Brooks changed no starters. At the half, Porter has 11 pts 5 rebs and 3 steals.
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Post by jorand on Jan 19, 2018 23:01:20 GMT -5
After last night's debacle (Wiz vs Hornets) Brooks is considering lineup changes. Don't be surprised if Otto moves to the bench. Porter still in starting lineup. Brooks changed no starters. At the half, Porter has 11 pts 5 rebs and 3 steals. Yep. Otto played well. Finished with 16pts and 7 boards.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 20, 2018 7:57:54 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 23, 2018 6:00:10 GMT -5
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Jan 23, 2018 7:02:04 GMT -5
Ted Leonsis would do well to fire GM Ernie Grunfeld. He has done a terrible job in putting together pieces that complement his big 3. Each of them has nagging injuries so they really need the back up so that they can recover from injuries. Otto needed more time when this first flared up.
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Post by BigmanU on Jan 23, 2018 8:49:56 GMT -5
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Post by beenaround on Jan 23, 2018 9:34:24 GMT -5
I am the far from a doctor (athough at my age I know more than I want to!) but I am worried Otto has a serious hip issue. He has missed bits of pieces of the past few years, after missing the entire first half of his rookie year with "hip issues". It has never been officially diagnosed. He started out the year on fire,but after around 20 games started to limp a bit. He has not been the same player since...his shooting and rebounding way down. He is literally not the same player most of the time. If he needs surgery on the hip, that does not bode well.
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Post by hoyadimes on Jan 23, 2018 10:05:32 GMT -5
Yes, one problem is that Otto is obviously suffering through some injuries which are taking away from the run out transition baskets he was getting earlier in the season. But, I think his bigger issue is one he has always had in that he plays with some incredibly selfish dudes(Wall/Beal). Otto plays a simple and fundamental game and wall/beal make basketball hard and complicated.
On another note, it was nice to see Greg Monroe finally get some playing time last night. Finished with 19 and 7 on 9-11 shooting in close a loss to Milwaukee.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 23, 2018 10:07:16 GMT -5
Yes, one problem is that Otto is obviously suffering through some injuries which are taking away from the run out transition baskets he was getting earlier in the season. But, I think his bigger issue is one he has always had in that he plays with some incredibly selfish dudes(Wall/Beal). Otto plays a simple and fundamental game and wall/beal make basketball hard and complicated. On another note, it was nice to see Greg Monroe finally get some playing time last night. Finished with 19 and 7 on 9-11 shooting in close a loss to Milwaukee. I'd love to see Otto on a Popovich-coached team.
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Post by BigmanU on Jan 23, 2018 10:10:55 GMT -5
Yes, one problem is that Otto is obviously suffering through some injuries which are taking away from the run out transition baskets he was getting earlier in the season. But, I think his bigger issue is one he has always had in that he plays with some incredibly selfish dudes(Wall/Beal). Otto plays a simple and fundamental game and wall/beal make basketball hard and complicated. On another note, it was nice to see Greg Monroe finally get some playing time last night. Finished with 19 and 7 on 9-11 shooting in close a loss to Milwaukee. I'd love to see Otto on a Popovich-coached team. www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22179536/kawhi-leonard-relationship-san-antonio-spurs-becoming-strainedJust sayin'
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Post by jorand on Jan 23, 2018 14:15:06 GMT -5
Yes, one problem is that Otto is obviously suffering through some injuries which are taking away from the run out transition baskets he was getting earlier in the season. But, I think his bigger issue is one he has always had in that he plays with some incredibly selfish dudes(Wall/Beal). Otto plays a simple and fundamental game and wall/beal make basketball hard and complicated.On another note, it was nice to see Greg Monroe finally get some playing time last night. Finished with 19 and 7 on 9-11 shooting in close a loss to Milwaukee. Not sure I'm buying the selfish part. When Wall was out with injury Otto still was his non aggressive self. Don't know who you can blame that on. Heck,his teammates/coaches literally beg him to pull the trigger..and he won't. Injuries aside, I think the thing that really limits Otto is his inability to create his own shot.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 23, 2018 21:17:07 GMT -5
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Post by beenaround on Jan 23, 2018 22:52:41 GMT -5
That Hoya team had some boys who could really throw it down..Jeff, Summers, PE Jr, and Macklin....probably leaving someone out.
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