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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Jun 29, 2017 12:33:45 GMT -5
Hmm, as a 5 year vet Hollis is being asked to play on a summer league squad? That's seems very odd for that to happen.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 29, 2017 15:06:08 GMT -5
Hmm, as a 5 year vet Hollis is being asked to play on a summer league squad? That's seems very odd for that to happen. Some of the Summer League squads are probably better than the Sixer teams he played for!
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Post by DallasHoya on Jun 30, 2017 16:26:17 GMT -5
In addition to the talk about Otto and a pick to Indy for Paul George, also hearing rumors in Dallas that the Mavericks may go after Otto if they can't resign Nerlens Noel. Would offer Wesley Mathews to the Wiz for Otto in a sign and trade - Mathews would make $7M less next year than Otto, and getting him might be more amenable to the Wiz than paying Otto the big $$$ or losing him outright. Would give the Mavs three starters who were lottery picks and all less than 25 years old.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Jun 30, 2017 17:47:14 GMT -5
In addition to the talk about Otto and a pick to Indy for Paul George, also hearing rumors in Dallas that the Mavericks may go after Otto if they can't resign Nerlens Noel. Would offer Wesley Mathews to the Wiz for Otto in a sign and trade - Mathews would make $7M less next year than Otto, and getting him might be more amenable to the Wiz than paying Otto the big $$$ or losing him outright. Would give the Mavs three starters who were lottery picks and all less than 25 years old. According to Mike Wise, the Wizards FO isn't letting Otto go, fwiw.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jul 1, 2017 19:54:01 GMT -5
As much as I like having Otto in DC, for his sake I hope he leaves the Wizards and goes somewhere his growth won't be stifled and still win games. Wall is EXTREMELY OVERATED AND A HORRIBLE TEAM LEADER. Wall has no self awareness! I don't know the exact number but can guarantee you the Wizards have a loosing record when Wall leads the team in shot attempts. He's Constantly in his feelings about who's making what compared to him. Had the nerve to throw Porter under the bus after his garbage play in Game 7. Wall wants to be treated like, paid like and talk like a super star. Guess what Super Stars win game 7's on the road or at least their game shows up. They don't quit in the 3rd quarter of a game 7. They also don't turn around later in free agency and go to the press and throw their up an coming free agent SF (who just had a very good year) under the bus to the media while HE publicly pursues a player on another team. I think he could have pursued PG13 on the low like Harden did for CP3 or Draymond did for Durrant without going to the media and throwing Otto under the bus. THAT'S NOT LEADERSHIP! Wiz will never win a title with Wall as the "Franchise Player". Can't believe they offered him a $170 million extension. They should be trying to trade him while his value appears to be high. I guess Leonsis would rather Wizz away his money.
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Post by jorand on Jul 1, 2017 20:40:15 GMT -5
This thread isn't a Wizards/NBA thread but I'll respectfully disagree when it comes to Wall.
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Post by dreamhoya on Jul 2, 2017 7:06:06 GMT -5
As much as I like having Otto in DC, for his sake I hope he leaves the Wizards and goes somewhere his growth won't be stifled and still win games. Wall is EXTREMELY OVERATED AND A HORRIBLE TEAM LEADER. Wall has no self awareness! I don't know the exact number but can guarantee you the Wizards have a loosing record when Wall leads the team in shot attempts. He's Constantly in his feelings about who's making what compared to him. Had the nerve to throw Porter under the bus after his garbage play in Game 7. Wall wants to be treated like, paid like and talk like a super star. Guess what Super Stars win game 7's on the road or at least their game shows up. They don't quit in the 3rd quarter of a game 7. They also don't turn around later in free agency and go to the press and throw their up an coming free agent SF (who just had a very good year) under the bus to the media while HE publicly pursues a player on another team. I think he could have pursued PG13 on the low like Harden did for CP3 or Draymond did for Durrant without going to the media and throwing Otto under the bus. THAT'S NOT LEADERSHIP! Wiz will never win a title with Wall as the "Franchise Player". Can't believe they offered him a $170 million extension. They should be trying to trade him while his value appears to be high. I guess Leonsis would rather Wizz away his money. In my opinion, WALL isn't overrated. Know who is? Beal.
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Post by dreamhoya on Jul 2, 2017 7:08:27 GMT -5
In addition to the talk about Otto and a pick to Indy for Paul George, also hearing rumors in Dallas that the Mavericks may go after Otto if they can't resign Nerlens Noel. Would offer Wesley Mathews to the Wiz for Otto in a sign and trade - Mathews would make $7M less next year than Otto, and getting him might be more amenable to the Wiz than paying Otto the big $$$ or losing him outright. Would give the Mavs three starters who were lottery picks and all less than 25 years old. Can you imagine Kawhi and Otto on the same team? Probably won't happen but....Pop would want him for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2017 16:39:08 GMT -5
In the investing world we talk about who the "dumb money" is (and the old adage that if you don't know who it is, it's you). The Nets and Kings are clearly the dumb money in the NBA - at least since the Vlade playing days and the J Kidd/K Mart days. But if Otto can get one of these teams to give him the max and Washington doesn't match (unlikely but possible) he should take it. Get set up for life. Then work the next contract to land at a contender. Take a page out of Iggy's book. Otto will add value wherever he goes and with 4 years under his belt and a mature attitude anyway it would be hard to see a toxic environment causing him to have mental issues. He'll just keep bringing it every night.
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Post by zxhoya on Jul 2, 2017 16:39:10 GMT -5
As much as I like having Otto in DC, for his sake I hope he leaves the Wizards and goes somewhere his growth won't be stifled and still win games. Wall is EXTREMELY OVERATED AND A HORRIBLE TEAM LEADER. Wall has no self awareness! I don't know the exact number but can guarantee you the Wizards have a loosing record when Wall leads the team in shot attempts. He's Constantly in his feelings about who's making what compared to him. Had the nerve to throw Porter under the bus after his garbage play in Game 7. Wall wants to be treated like, paid like and talk like a super star. Guess what Super Stars win game 7's on the road or at least their game shows up. They don't quit in the 3rd quarter of a game 7. They also don't turn around later in free agency and go to the press and throw their up an coming free agent SF (who just had a very good year) under the bus to the media while HE publicly pursues a player on another team. I think he could have pursued PG13 on the low like Harden did for CP3 or Draymond did for Durrant without going to the media and throwing Otto under the bus. THAT'S NOT LEADERSHIP! Wiz will never win a title with Wall as the "Franchise Player". Can't believe they offered him a $170 million extension. They should be trying to trade him while his value appears to be high. I guess Leonsis would rather Wizz away his money. In my opinion, WALL isn't overrated. Know who is? Beal. Beal, at the age of 23, averaged 23PTS per game in the regular season and 25pts per game in the playoffs. He's the teams best defender and was a 40% 3pt shooter and 82% FT shooter (should be better), I disagree that Beal is overrated. Beal has the most potential of any current Wizards player.
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Post by zxhoya on Jul 2, 2017 16:44:08 GMT -5
In the investing world we talk about who the "dumb money" is (and the old adage that if you don't know who it is, it's you). The Nets and Kings are clearly the dumb money in the NBA - at least since the Vlade playing days and the J Kidd/K Mart days. But if Otto can get one of these teams to give him the max and Washington doesn't match (unlikely but possible) he should take it. Get set up for life. Then work the next contract to land at a contender. Take a page out of Iggy's book. Otto will add value wherever he goes and with 4 years under his belt and a mature attitude anyway it would be hard to see a toxic environment causing him to have mental issues. He'll just keep bringing it every night. I agree but like you said unlikely that Washington won't match, Wizards can't let one of their top assets just walk.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jul 2, 2017 20:21:28 GMT -5
I hope Otto stays with the Wizards (2nd choice the Kings, because I will be moving there). It seems the current Hoyas in the league seem to lose something after each trade. Otto is a player on the rise and I hope some stability will help continue that rise.
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 2, 2017 20:27:48 GMT -5
I hope Otto stays with the Wizards (2nd choice the Kings, because I will be moving there). It seems the current Hoyas in the league seem to lose something after each trade. Otto is a player on the rise and I hope some stability will help continue that rise. The Washington Post says it is almost certain that the Wizards will match the max contract offer: According to several people familiar with the Wizards’ thinking, the team will in fact match the lofty offer. The Wizards did not extend their own maximum offer to Porter at the start of the free agency period at 12:01 a.m. Saturday, but team officials still believe that he is a vital part of the team’s success. If Porter re-signs with Washington, he would become the highest-paid player on the roster. www.washingtonpost.com/news/wizards-insider/wp/2017/07/02/wizards-agree-to-sign-free-agent-jodie-meeks-to-two-year-7-million-deal/?utm_term=.58892d94c976
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