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Post by bostonfan on Apr 27, 2017 14:27:17 GMT -5
Looks to be in good shape. Can't find full season stats, but Josh did well with what little PT he got in the playoffs I saw some of the D league final game the other night. Josh looked OK for parts of the game but, much like in college, would run out of gas after a few trips up and down the floor and would lose his effectiveness. If he ever got in really great shape he would be a legit NBA player
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Apr 30, 2017 23:58:24 GMT -5
How could the Wiz lose after opening 16-0?! At least Otto had a double double.
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Post by beenaround on May 1, 2017 6:54:17 GMT -5
Otto was very good yesterday. 16 pts 11 reb and 2 steals with 0 turnovers. Wall was a mess with 8 turnovers and they did not pass him the ball, even when he had a 5 9 inch guy covering him.
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Post by vv83 on May 1, 2017 7:34:04 GMT -5
Losing Morris killed the wizards. Boston went small, and they had no defensive answer. They need to be able to play Morris at the 5 when Boston goes small to be able to defend them defensively. Boston just put Gortat in pick/roll D over and over, and he was exploited repeatedly. That being said, Boston shot really well from outside (both 3s and midrange 2's) yesterday. The wizard's best chance if they don't have Morris going forward is for Boston to shoot significantly worse than they did yesterday, and for wall to play more efficiently. Boston did a good job of getting Horford the ball after he set ball screens, and horford tore them up with good 4-on-3 passing and midrange jumpers. This, combined with the usual heroics from Thomas, was too much for the Wizard D. Crowder in particular shot well, he took some tough threes but hit a lot of them.
as stated above, Otto played a very strong game yesterday. He was all over the court defensively (especially early in the game), and he was more aggressive than usual offensively.
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Post by Filo on May 1, 2017 8:22:45 GMT -5
Losing Morris killed the wizards. Boston went small, and they had no defensive answer. They need to be able to play Morris at the 5 when Boston goes small to be able to defend them defensively. Boston just put Gortat in pick/roll D over and over, and he was exploited repeatedly. That being said, Boston shot really well from outside (both 3s and midrange 2's) yesterday. The wizard's best chance if they don't have Morris going forward is for Boston to shoot significantly worse than they did yesterday, and for wall to play more efficiently. Boston did a good job of getting Horford the ball after he set ball screens, and horford tore them up with good 4-on-3 passing and midrange jumpers. This, combined with the usual heroics from Thomas, was too much for the Wizard D. Crowder in particular shot well, he took some tough threes but hit a lot of them. as stated above, Otto played a very strong game yesterday. He was all over the court defensively (especially early in the game), and he was more aggressive than usual offensively. Still want Otto to look for his shot more, but he had a good game. Celtics hit a ton of clutch threes.
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Post by DanMcQ on May 1, 2017 8:25:03 GMT -5
It should not be news but Stevens is a damn good coach.
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Post by 95hoya on May 1, 2017 8:36:44 GMT -5
Otto was very good yesterday. 16 pts 11 reb and 2 steals with 0 turnovers. Wall was a mess with 8 turnovers and they did not pass him the ball, even when he had a 5 9 inch guy covering him. Otto doesn't have a post game. He tried to post up Thomas and settled for a turnaround jumper that he missed. Hard to go back to it. Otto did not have a good series versus the Hawks. The rookie Prince got the best of him I thought. But the Celtics should be a better matchup. Crowder is not going to attack off the dribble like Prince did.
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Post by vv83 on May 1, 2017 8:58:24 GMT -5
It should not be news but Stevens is a damn good coach. This is what will probably decide the series, especially if Morris is out/limited. Brooks is a solid coach, but giving Stevens an advantage like the loss of Morris is likely too much for the Wizards to overcome. Stevens figured out quickly that the wizards had no defensive answers to the small lineup. He will push this advantage for the rest of the series, unless Brooks can come up with some new idea to counter. But I don't think the Wizards have the personnel to do anything very effective.
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Post by nychoya3 on May 1, 2017 9:07:22 GMT -5
Celtics also shot the cover off the ball in the second half. And Wall did not have his best game, and they need him to be at the level he was at last series. Good game by the Celtics but I didn't see anything that made me think the Wizards can't hang.
Otto did a nice job, but even with Thomas guarding him, he's not an iso player. I did like them using him as a pick and roll guy a few times, which they rarely did in the regular season. He can pop out, he's mobile and has a good touch around the basket, and if they switch on it, they can get Bradley or a better defender off Wall or Beal.
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Post by joey0403p on May 1, 2017 9:23:29 GMT -5
I thought beal and wall both played pretty terrible in the second half. Otto, thankfully played well after last series. But he doesn't have the game to abuse Thomas 1-1 unfortunately.
Stevens is really good, but crowder going 6-8 on threes isn't typical (I hope)
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Post by hoya2x2010 on May 1, 2017 11:20:54 GMT -5
It should not be news but Stevens is a damn good coach. This is what will probably decide the series, especially if Morris is out/limited. Brooks is a solid coach, but giving Stevens an advantage like the loss of Morris is likely too much for the Wizards to overcome. Stevens figured out quickly that the wizards had no defensive answers to the small lineup. He will push this advantage for the rest of the series, unless Brooks can come up with some new idea to counter. But I don't think the Wizards have the personnel to do anything very effective. IMO Morris is a big loss, but not because he is particularly good. More because the options for replacing him are particularly bad.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on May 1, 2017 18:21:58 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on May 2, 2017 21:39:35 GMT -5
Otto just hit a huge 3 to put the Wiz up by 2 with 32 seconds to go. He came back from an unintentional head butt (to the nose) earlier in the game and had to be taken to the locker room as the blood was really gushing.
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Post by Filo on May 3, 2017 8:57:52 GMT -5
Great shot by Otto, and some other nice plays / rebounds, as well.
As good as Wall is, and obviously he carries the team on his back, he was pretty off in the 4th quarter and overtime. He and Beal's shots were falling short - they seemed tired. IT, on the other hand, was just phenomenal. Wow.
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Post by vv83 on May 3, 2017 9:26:53 GMT -5
Great shot by Otto, and some other nice plays / rebounds, as well. As good as Wall is, and obviously he carries the team on his back, he was pretty off in the 4th quarter and overtime. He and Beal's shots were falling short - they seemed tired. IT, on the other hand, was just phenomenal. Wow. The Wizards had their chances, but last night was one of those games where Thomas just was not going to let his team lose unless the opponent put a stake through his heart. The missed wall free throw and the two Beal misses at the regulation buzzer were their chances to drive in the stake, and they failed. These games are clearly going to be close, but the wizards do have to win both at home. Not having Mahimni is hurting them. He is a more mobile perimeter defender than Gortat, and he can give Gortat some rest. Gortat is a useful player, but he has clear limitations, and he is playing way too many minutes because they don't have another choice.
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Post by beenaround on May 3, 2017 9:54:46 GMT -5
IT seemed to have two "unintentional head butts" last night..the other was into Oubre's jaw. Of course the foul was called on the jaw.
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Post by DanMcQ on May 3, 2017 15:43:54 GMT -5
IT seemed to have two "unintentional head butts" last night.. This is hysterical. Takes some pretty red and blue colored glasses to describe Otto's nose hitting the back side of a (foot shorter) guy's head who was running away from him as a "head butt". You're right though, to be consistent the refs shouldn't have called a foul on the jaw if they didn't call one on either Otto's elbow or IT's tooth.
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Post by beenaround on May 3, 2017 16:12:54 GMT -5
IT seemed to have two "unintentional head butts" last night.. This is hysterical. Takes some pretty red and blue colored glasses to describe Otto's nose hitting the back side of a (foot shorter) guy's head who was running away from him as a "head butt". You're right though, to be consistent the refs shouldn't have called a foul on the jaw if they didn't call one on either Otto's elbow or IT's tooth. One of my glasses is red and blue, the other blue and gray..so yep..you may be right!
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Post by DanMcQ on May 4, 2017 19:29:29 GMT -5
OP playing very well in the 1st in game 3.
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Post by DanMcQ on May 4, 2017 20:01:45 GMT -5
I thought this kind of thing was just crappy Hoya basketball and in game programming.
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