Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Feb 23, 2017 15:03:09 GMT -5
Hibbert to Denver
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Post by Hoya Rich on Feb 23, 2017 16:10:11 GMT -5
For a 2nd round pick. Talk about a career fall. Just three years ago this guy was a DPOY candidate.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 23, 2017 16:18:26 GMT -5
For a 2nd round pick. Talk about a career fall. Just three years ago this guy was a DPOY candidate. This may be Hibbert's last year. He's down to a career low 5.2 points per game this season, he doesn't move well on the court anymore. A salary cap move.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Feb 23, 2017 16:39:03 GMT -5
For a 2nd round pick. Talk about a career fall. Just three years ago this guy was a DPOY candidate. This may be Hibbert's last year. He's down to a career low 5.2 points per game this season, he doesn't move well on the court anymore. A salary cap move. FWIW It's been reported on several occasions that his knees are really bad right now. Limiting his movements especially latteraly. Has been getting worse for a couple years now. He actually had a healthy offseason for the first time in a while and was excited to be in Charlotte but got hurt again very early in the season.
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Post by jorand on Feb 23, 2017 17:12:07 GMT -5
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Post by dense on Feb 24, 2017 1:07:24 GMT -5
This may be Hibbert's last year. He's down to a career low 5.2 points per game this season, he doesn't move well on the court anymore. A salary cap move. FWIW It's been reported on several occasions that his knees are really bad right now. Limiting his movements especially latteraly. Has been getting worse for a couple years now. He actually had a healthy offseason for the first time in a while and was excited to be in Charlotte but got hurt again very early in the season. yup i suspect he retires at the end of this season.
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Post by dense on Feb 26, 2017 20:23:18 GMT -5
Hollis got the start at 2G for the Pelicans tonight in his 2nd game
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Post by ksf42001 on Feb 26, 2017 22:04:09 GMT -5
Hollis got the start at 2G for the Pelicans tonight in his 2nd game Good to see him get minutes during his 10 day trial, and he hit some shots, but the effort was lacking on both defense and boards.
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 27, 2017 15:48:32 GMT -5
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Post by McBricks on Feb 27, 2017 15:56:24 GMT -5
Seems to me he made a pretty good decision.
Go Dubs!
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Post by joey0403p on Mar 1, 2017 22:31:29 GMT -5
Anyone else worried about bogdanovic taking some of porters shots?
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 2, 2017 18:20:03 GMT -5
Otto probably had his worst game of the year last night with 0 points on 0-4 shooting, so yes, maybe boggie was taking some of Otto's shots.
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Post by dense on Mar 3, 2017 14:12:24 GMT -5
Otto probably had his worst game of the year last night with 0 points on 0-4 shooting, so yes, maybe boggie was taking some of Otto's shots. Nah I think that had more to do with the back to back. I am glad Brooks just rested him with the big lead and Bojan on torch mode.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 8, 2017 0:41:07 GMT -5
Since the all star break, Otto has not been putting up very good marks. He did have 7 rebounds tonight, but only 2 points.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 8, 2017 6:49:28 GMT -5
Since the all star break, Otto has not been putting up very good marks. He did have 7 rebounds tonight, but only 2 points. I think the acquisition of Bojan Bogdanovich has had an effect on the need for him to put up points. That guy can shoot.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 8, 2017 6:51:11 GMT -5
Anyone else worried about bogdanovic taking some of porters shots? Not really. And I bet Porter is the last guy to worry about it. Porter has shown what he can do and is an ultimate team player. He will still get a max contract from someone, if not the Wizards, although I will go out on a limb and think that the Wiz will re-sign him. Porter, whose has led the league in three-point shooting this season with a career-high 45.3 percent success rate, is scoring 1.38 points per possession on spot-up opportunities, most in the NBA among players with at least 200 spot-up possessions, and showed he was more than willing to defer to the red-hot Bogdanovic against Orlando on Sunday night, even if he, too, is wide open. www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2017/03/07/bojan-bogdanovic-gives-the-wizards-a-player-they-havent-had-in-years/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_2_na
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Post by Cambridge on Mar 8, 2017 9:19:35 GMT -5
Anyone else worried about bogdanovic taking some of porters shots? Not really. And I bet Porter is the last guy to worry about it. Porter has shown what he can do and is an ultimate team player. He will still get a max contract from someone, if not the Wizards, although I will go out on a limb and think that the Wiz will re-sign him. Porter, whose has led the league in three-point shooting this season with a career-high 45.3 percent success rate, is scoring 1.38 points per possession on spot-up opportunities, most in the NBA among players with at least 200 spot-up possessions, and showed he was more than willing to defer to the red-hot Bogdanovic against Orlando on Sunday night, even if he, too, is wide open. www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2017/03/07/bojan-bogdanovic-gives-the-wizards-a-player-they-havent-had-in-years/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_2_naOtto is going to get a max offer from the Wizards, his recent drop in production notwithstanding. The additions of Jennings and Bogey, along with the return of Mahinmi from injury and the development of Jason Smith as a solid pick and pop shooter mean that the Wizards have gone from one of the worst benches in recent NBA history, to one of the more dynamic benches in the East. Brooks has been tinkering with different units all while trying to prepare for what is one of the harder second "half" schedules in the East. They are on the first of two four game west coast road trips this month. Both feature two back to backs over the course of five days. The starters are getting more rest than they did earlier in the season. As a result Otto is getting less time on the court and fewer looks. His shot has been off, but he's been hustling and doing a lot of dirty work that keeps that offense running - setting screens, getting steals, and grabbing key boards.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 8, 2017 9:51:27 GMT -5
Not really. And I bet Porter is the last guy to worry about it. Porter has shown what he can do and is an ultimate team player. He will still get a max contract from someone, if not the Wizards, although I will go out on a limb and think that the Wiz will re-sign him. Porter, whose has led the league in three-point shooting this season with a career-high 45.3 percent success rate, is scoring 1.38 points per possession on spot-up opportunities, most in the NBA among players with at least 200 spot-up possessions, and showed he was more than willing to defer to the red-hot Bogdanovic against Orlando on Sunday night, even if he, too, is wide open. www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2017/03/07/bojan-bogdanovic-gives-the-wizards-a-player-they-havent-had-in-years/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_2_naOtto is going to get a max offer from the Wizards, his recent drop in production notwithstanding. The additions of Jennings and Bogey, along with the return of Mahinmi from injury and the development of Jason Smith as a solid pick and pop shooter mean that the Wizards have gone from one of the worst benches in recent NBA history, to one of the more dynamic benches in the East. Brooks has been tinkering with different units all while trying to prepare for what is one of the harder second "half" schedules in the East. They are on the first of two four game west coast road trips this month. Both feature two back to backs over the course of five days. The starters are getting more rest than they did earlier in the season. As a result Otto is getting less time on the court and fewer looks. His shot has been off, but he's been hustling and doing a lot of dirty work that keeps that offense running - setting screens, getting steals, and grabbing key boards. Geez, I hope so on the Otto Max question - there will be knives out for Otto within the fanbase (you already see it on the sbnation website whenever he has a quiet game) if he averages single digit points over the second half and his 3p% drops back down to 40ish. Nonetheless I think someone throws the max at him (e.g., BK). I agree with all your other points about Wiz upgrades. Bogey has been incredible on offense - turns out playing with WallStar gets you open shots. Most importantly, the revitalized bench is essential because the Wiz starters were playing ridiculous minutes, including Otto. Otto has had a nagging hip, so having some games playing 20mpg should only help him. Wall, too, needs some rest because he plays 100 mph when he's out there.
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Post by Cambridge on Mar 8, 2017 9:57:53 GMT -5
Otto is going to get a max offer from the Wizards, his recent drop in production notwithstanding. The additions of Jennings and Bogey, along with the return of Mahinmi from injury and the development of Jason Smith as a solid pick and pop shooter mean that the Wizards have gone from one of the worst benches in recent NBA history, to one of the more dynamic benches in the East. Brooks has been tinkering with different units all while trying to prepare for what is one of the harder second "half" schedules in the East. They are on the first of two four game west coast road trips this month. Both feature two back to backs over the course of five days. The starters are getting more rest than they did earlier in the season. As a result Otto is getting less time on the court and fewer looks. His shot has been off, but he's been hustling and doing a lot of dirty work that keeps that offense running - setting screens, getting steals, and grabbing key boards. Geez, I hope so on the Otto Max question - there will be knives out for Otto within the fanbase (you already see it on the sbnation website whenever he has a quiet game) if he averages single digit points over the second half and his 3p% drops back down to 40ish. Nonetheless I think someone throws the max at him (e.g., BK). I agree with all your other points about Wiz upgrades. Bogey has been incredible on offense - turns out playing with WallStar gets you open shots. Most importantly, the revitalized bench is essential because the Wiz starters were playing ridiculous minutes, including Otto. Otto has had a nagging hip, so having some games playing 20mpg should only help him. Wall, too, needs some rest because he plays 100 mph when he's out there. I feel you on the fanbase being fickle. For example, Wizards twitter was calling for Gortat's head on a platter until deeeeeep into the fourth quarter last night for his sloppy play. Of course, then he got a couple key baskets and what appeared to be a game sealing block in the last couple minutes. They wax and wane on all players. My impression is that Brooks and the front office appreciate all the things Otto does to help facilitate the offense. As long as he keeps doing that while he's in a slump, he'll be fine. It won't be long before his shot starts falling again. He just needs to get back to his spot in the corner and fire away.
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Post by joey0403p on Mar 8, 2017 17:03:52 GMT -5
My point about worrying about otto's shot attempts is, he has not been the most aggressive guy in scoring while in the nba. Of course this is due to his team first mentality and the fact he plays with beal who I have never cared for and don't think has ever seen a shot he didn't like (a less talented Jr smith possibly?)
So if bogdanovic comes in and starts scoring and ottos average drops to single digits, all of a sudden he isn't winning most improved. He isn't getting a max deal.
Maybe I'm paranoid?
Of course maybe it leads the wiz to do something stupid like not offer him his worth and he leaves. I'm a wiz fan - but don't trust them to be smart and a Hoya fan first - so if Otto had chance to go to San Antonio, or GS or somewhere else with really smart coaches. If be all for it. I actually like brooks - I just don't trust grunfeld.
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