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Post by sleepy on Dec 6, 2011 17:09:05 GMT -5
At the Ville, at Morgantown and Marquette at home we could be 1-3 after our first four BE games and still be a pretty good team.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Dec 6, 2011 18:23:48 GMT -5
Tough opening stretch. A win over Memphis, and 9-9 conference record gets us very safely into the tournament I presume.
9-9 is my base case prediction. We could place anywhere from 5th-10th.
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Post by wahoohoya on Dec 6, 2011 18:57:22 GMT -5
I will begrudgingly admit that we shouldn't expect to finish above Cuse and UConn because that is what the media is telling me. But that's it. We're playing as well as any anybody in the league right now and we're only going to get better (especially on the defensive end). We are a match up nightmare for most teams. I see 11-7 as the floor.
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Post by TC on Dec 8, 2011 1:15:11 GMT -5
Georgetown was picked as the 10th place team, and now the floor is 11-7? You guys are nuts. 10-8 expectation, 8-10 floor.
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Post by wahoohoya on Dec 8, 2011 7:41:31 GMT -5
Georgetown was picked as the 10th place team, and now the floor is 11-7? You guys are nuts. 10-8 expectation, 8-10 floor. This board is like a jilted lover. Georgetown isn't the team that was picked 10th - that much is very clear, so not sure why you even bring that up. The team that was picked 10th didn't have a legitimate front court player, no proven leader, no point guard, and a bunch of freshman with low expectations. This is a legitimate top 25 team in my eyes. And a top 25 team this year in the Big East should finish 11-7 or better with our schedule. Saying 11-7 is the floor, in a literal sense, is probably outlandish. Of course they could finish 8-10 or worse if bad things happen. But that would be a massive disappointment given the players and talent we have and the ho hum state of the Big East this year. Maybe I am underrating the other teams, but I haven't been all that impressed by anybody yet.
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 8, 2011 10:20:42 GMT -5
agree wahoo agree ville didnt look so great cuse not a great win over marshall nova not so good uconn got beat ucf NEW BIG EAST TEAM . sosooo now quette looking pretty darn good..
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Post by wahoohoya on Dec 8, 2011 11:32:12 GMT -5
Just for fun, here is my breakdown:
Less challenging home games: Providence Rutgers USF St. John’s Notre Dame
4 -5 wins, calling 5.
More challenging home games: Marquette Cincinnati UConn Villanova
2 – 4 wins, calling 2.
Less challenging road games: @ St John’s @ Depaul @ Providence @ Seton Hall
2 – 4 wins, calling 3.
More challenging road games: @ Louisville @ WVU @ Pitt @ Cuse @ Marquette
0 – 3 wins, calling 2.
I guess that puts my floor at 8-10. Final prediction 12-6
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Post by hoyatamale on Dec 8, 2011 11:57:38 GMT -5
Marquette is going to challenge the top of the league and might finish in second place, so I'll go ahead and say that their experience and pace will allow them to sweep us.
I think we can get a statement win against UCONN in the Phone Booth, so I'll go with an 11-7 BE season.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 8, 2011 12:01:10 GMT -5
I like wahoo's methodology.
Pomeroy, for reference, is currently at 12-6 with predicted losses to 'Ville, WVU, Pitt, Cuse, Marquette plus one more.
He currently has us ranked #13 and favored in every home game from here on out. (Marquette, at home, is both our most likely home loss and our most likely loss in a game in which we are favored).
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Post by vcjack on Dec 8, 2011 12:28:27 GMT -5
Marquette is going to challenge the top of the league and might finish in second place, so I'll go ahead and say that their experience and pace will allow them to sweep us. I think we can get a statement win against UCONN in the Phone Booth, so I'll go with an 11-7 BE season. I think we match up better with Marquette than we do UConn, but we shall see
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Post by BigmanU on Dec 8, 2011 14:32:12 GMT -5
Marquette is going to challenge the top of the league and might finish in second place, so I'll go ahead and say that their experience and pace will allow them to sweep us. I think we can get a statement win against UCONN in the Phone Booth, so I'll go with an 11-7 BE season. I think we match up better with Marquette than we do UConn, but we shall see I actually agree with this point of view. We are a longer team and would give a gaurd oriented team like Marquette problems. UConn is a long team like us.
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Post by TC on Dec 8, 2011 14:54:50 GMT -5
Saying 11-7 is the floor, in a literal sense, is probably outlandish. Of course they could finish 8-10 or worse if bad things happen. But that would be a massive disappointment given the players and talent we have and the ho hum state of the Big East this year. Maybe I am underrating the other teams, but I haven't been all that impressed by anybody yet. Let's just put this out for comparison : in 2009-2010, Georgetown was the #14 team in the country, had a sophomore Greg Monroe and finished 10-8 in conference. What we've seen so far on the court has been great. But there are a ton of freshmen taking big roles and some of them are going to hit the wall at some point this season. It happens. Henry Sims has been unbelievable so far. Do you expect him to be 3rd most efficient player in the country over the course of a major conference schedule? Is Hollis Thompson going to shoot whatever ungodly percentage he is shooting from three point range over the course of a season? This board has a huge problem with perspective. A 10-8 conference record is a success. A tournament bid is a success. And yet after a first round tournament loss, half the board is calling for the Coach to be "held responsible", decrying the program. You want to look at the failure of a program? Look at Syracuse or Penn State. Just like I was doubtful this team would be in the lower half of the Big East, I'm not sure we know enough about this team yet to determine that an 8-10 record would be a massive disappointment. The truth about this team is likely smack dab in the middle of the visions of sugarplums being passed around in this thread and 10th place in the Big East.
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Post by wahoohoya on Dec 8, 2011 16:54:30 GMT -5
Saying 11-7 is the floor, in a literal sense, is probably outlandish. Of course they could finish 8-10 or worse if bad things happen. But that would be a massive disappointment given the players and talent we have and the ho hum state of the Big East this year. Maybe I am underrating the other teams, but I haven't been all that impressed by anybody yet. Let's just put this out for comparison : in 2009-2010, Georgetown was the #14 team in the country, had a sophomore Greg Monroe and finished 10-8 in conference. What we've seen so far on the court has been great. But there are a ton of freshmen taking big roles and some of them are going to hit the wall at some point this season. It happens. Henry Sims has been unbelievable so far. Do you expect him to be 3rd most efficient player in the country over the course of a major conference schedule? Is Hollis Thompson going to shoot whatever ungodly percentage he is shooting from three point range over the course of a season? This board has a huge problem with perspective. A 10-8 conference record is a success. A tournament bid is a success. And yet after a first round tournament loss, half the board is calling for the Coach to be "held responsible", decrying the program. You want to look at the failure of a program? Look at Syracuse or Penn State. Just like I was doubtful this team would be in the lower half of the Big East, I'm not sure we know enough about this team yet to determine that an 8-10 record would be a massive disappointment. The truth about this team is likely smack dab in the middle of the visions of sugarplums being passed around in this thread and 10th place in the Big East. Much of what you say still seems to be in response to my statement that 11-7 is the floor. I already backed off that statement. It is my expectation this team will go 11-7 or better this year (which wouldn’t require Henry to remain the 3rd most efficient player in the country or for Hollis to shoot 60%), but I agree that 8-10 is probably the floor. And I certainly never suggested that 10-8 with a tournament bid wouldn’t be a success for this group. With that clarified, I still think 8-10 would be a massive disappointment – as that would probably leave us without a tournament bid. That would be underachieving for the kind of talent this team has – based partly on my perception that the Big East is down this year – unlike the 2009-2010 season that you bring up. Even so, 10-8 for that Monroe team was a disappointment. I shouldn’t have to qualify that by saying I’m proud of the character of our players and coach and the program. Edit - not only was the Big East much stronger top to bottom in 2009-2010, our Big East schedule was tougher in terms of the teams we had to play twice. Not out of the realm of possibility to get to 11 wins this year without a single marquee win.
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 9, 2011 16:51:54 GMT -5
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 9, 2011 21:54:25 GMT -5
we will see hope the guys dont read that stuff need to play HUNGARY ADN MEAN yup dont read the papers nope
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Post by Massholya on Mar 2, 2012 8:41:00 GMT -5
Bump
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 3, 2012 0:30:22 GMT -5
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 3, 2012 8:02:37 GMT -5
ok prediction here if we beat marquette hope thats the case YEAH second place in the big apple.. but if lose i predict we will be in sixth place.... yup sixth WHICH AINT SO BAD.... NITE GAMES AND NOT PLAY CUSE TILL THE FINALS .... not a bad second alternative... yup not bad either way... but the WIN WOULD BE OH SO SWEET. YUP oh so sweet..... gohoyas ..TEMPUS FUGIT.... CARPE DIEM ....etc etc etc NOW.... just do it.... today..... on THEIR senior day.... ON THEIR HOME COURT. ..beat marquette and WATCH OUT WORLD... NOT JUST IN THE BIG APPLE..
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