zxhoya
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Post by zxhoya on Dec 1, 2011 23:43:13 GMT -5
The upperclassmen are leading this team. Jason, Henry and Hollis are ballin'. Markel had a sub par game shooting wise but played under control against a tough defensive team.
I feel for Nate, but he needs to play confidently because he's an asset for this team and I believe he will redeem himself the rest of the season. (fingers crossed)
Excellent learning experience.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 1, 2011 23:43:20 GMT -5
After the China experience, what's a road game in a hostile gym against the 12th ranked team? Nothing!
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Post by gahoya on Dec 1, 2011 23:43:23 GMT -5
Checked the stat sheet and noticed Otto had a very quiet game. As did Markel.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Dec 1, 2011 23:43:39 GMT -5
So proud to be a fan of this team
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Post by mfk24 on Dec 1, 2011 23:44:13 GMT -5
The possession that Editeded me off was out of the TO when there were 8 seconds on the clock and the team played like they had 35! But, when you win, all is forgiven. JT3 will remember that one though. JT3 was Editeded after that TO. He was fired up and yelling at the guys. He won't let them forget that mistake. Really proud of the toughness and poise of this team. We really could have won this game by more, but we didn't fold when they took the lead with 10 to go and that shot by Hollis was huge.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Dec 1, 2011 23:44:53 GMT -5
Love breaking another home winning streak. They had won 20+ at home against noncons. 24 games No, they had won 24 straight at home... they also had a lengthy home winning streak against nonconf oppts going back a few years.
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Post by idhoya on Dec 1, 2011 23:46:04 GMT -5
Hollywoooooood! Hollywood swingin'
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Post by jwp91 on Dec 1, 2011 23:46:31 GMT -5
THe upper classmen were critical in this one. Clark, Thompson, and Sims were simply awesome.
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Post by deacon on Dec 1, 2011 23:47:10 GMT -5
Hollis Thompson is trending worldwide.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Dec 1, 2011 23:48:47 GMT -5
Still on a high after that one...
Couldn't be happier to beat a really good team on the road at their place. Really proud of the guys for fighting through a hostile environment as well as some really crappy officiating. Seems like every game we are saying Henry Sims just had the best game of his life. Because he has. Thoroughly outplayed Green and was a force on both ends of the floor all night. Our freshman are playing like mature vets. Porter and Whittington continue to make positive winning plays without making too many critical mistakes in the process. Clark seems to have found his offensive stride, and aside from a couple slow rotations late in the 2nd half, had a helluva game. And Hollis... straight onions. Your big time players need to come up big when it counts, and he did tonight.
Crazy thing is, we accomplished all of this without coming close to playing our best. No reason to be shooting so quickly (15-20 seconds on the shot clock) up 9 with under 3 to go. And it doesn't get to that point if we don't spot them 6-8 points to begin each half. It's happened every game thus far, and things have to change because we won't be able to overcome it every time. It's obvious the weak link is Nate. Sure, he tried tonight, but that just wasn't good enough. It hasn't been good enough. And now there are guys here that are good enough to take minutes. It shouldn't be a difficult decision at this point.
One quick thought about the 2-3 zone: it was super effective throughout most of the game. But I think it's significantly weakened when we have Clark and Starks up top together. Not enough size to bother shooters, and not enough length to recover to shooters when the ball gets swung around or kicked out from the paint. Not sure how we get around this besides hoping our starting guards continue to get more comfortable playing in the zone and communicate better, because we need both on the floor when the game is on the line. But this will be an issue moving forward.
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Post by zxhoya on Dec 1, 2011 23:49:41 GMT -5
Checked the stat sheet and noticed Otto had a very quiet game. As did Markel. Markel had several open looks but shot just wouldn't fall. Otto looked tentative offensively but was poised none the less. Greg W. played well, he might have the most potential of anyone one the team.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Dec 1, 2011 23:49:56 GMT -5
A few thoughts:
--the upperclassmen really delivered. Jason was poised and handled the on-the-ball pressure better than anyone could have hoped (something many have been fearful of all off-season) and hit all his shots; Hollis rebounded like a man and obviously hit the winner; and Henry was a premier player on both ends of the court. Who would have thought just three weeks ago that we'd be playing the #12 team in the country, on the road, and that Henry Sims would be our primary option in crunch time...and no one would cringe?
--the youngsters got a chance to learn....and unlike the Kansas game got a chance to do it with a win. I didn't think any of them played terrifically tonight (although we played great team defense overall).
--Absolutely terrific patience on that final play. It takes supreme confidence by your senior leader to not spin to the hoop there or jack one up; and Hollis waited for the absolute right moment to make his cut. Great team play. And a great sign for the rest of the year.
--I know I'm not saying anything original here: but the whole key is having bigs who can pass from the high post. The offense is just amazing to watch when that's happening, and it completely nullified their pressure defense.
--Terrific defensive game-planning by the staff and execution by the players. They quickly realized the man wasn't going to be the best option and went to the zone.
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Post by NCHoya on Dec 1, 2011 23:49:57 GMT -5
The upperclassmen are leading this team. Jason, Henry and Hollis are ballin'. Markel had a sub par game shooting wise but played under control against a tough defensive team. I feel for Nate, but he needs to play confidently because he's an asset for this team and I believe he will redeem himself the rest of the season. (fingers crossed) Excellent learning experience. Yes, as much as we love to laud the freshmen, no question Jason, Henry and Hollis have taken their games to another level this season. I expected Jason and Hollis to deliver, but Henry has been astounding. Also, this was clearly the first time the frosh looked timid at times, but that is to be expected. Even more of a reason to realize just how big a road win this is. As much as bama gets credit for its defense, I am ready to read about Georgetown's zone, which has been devestating to opponents.
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Dec 1, 2011 23:50:35 GMT -5
My reaction to this game: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Another few years were taken off my life tonight. At least I will die a happy Hoya.
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Post by NCHoya on Dec 1, 2011 23:50:49 GMT -5
No, they had won 24 straight at home... they also had a lengthy home winning streak against nonconf oppts going back a few years. Yeah, ooc streak was much longer. That 24 was against the SEC and OOC, much more meaningful.
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 1, 2011 23:51:21 GMT -5
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Post by zxhoya on Dec 1, 2011 23:52:21 GMT -5
THe upper clansmen were critical in this one. Clark, Thompson, and Sims were simply awesome. "clansmen" You might want to edit you're post jwp91. lol
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 1, 2011 23:53:47 GMT -5
ok imo we played AWFUL and still hung on to win... nate bad game otto way off markel missing shots.. yup and lost what the nine point lead with like 3 minutes to go BUT they bent and didnt break yup TEAM tough henry even missed some at the end but was mostly awesome and tough. what a game what a team GOD what happens when they play GOOD woowwowowowoowowowo we beat number twelve and number eight yup still probably wont be ranked.. yup we will see .. go hoyas CONGRATS GREAT WIN EVEN THO BENT ALOT AND ALOT OF GUYS HAD NOT SO GREAT GAMES AND THE UPPERCLASSMEN PULLED IT OFF wowowowwowowowooww bring on njit on sat and blue NOW FILL THE BOOTH WE GOT A TEAM
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Post by aleutianhoya on Dec 1, 2011 23:54:42 GMT -5
Who cares if Nate is starting? He played far fewer minutes than Otto did. Otto played 35 minutes. 35!!!! (So...I don't want to hear anyone saying Otto should be doing this or doing that or blaming JTIII....he can't play anymore than he did tonight.)
To me, it's irrelvant. The two have very different skill sets, and I think there are going to be times when Nate's skills are much more important. He hit a nice 12 footer tonight; that was a good start.
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 1, 2011 23:55:11 GMT -5
agree aleutian THAT LAST PLAY WAS THE PLAY A TEAM OF WINNERS ADN A WINNING TEAM EXECUTES unreal but great
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