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Post by Problem of Dog on Oct 15, 2011 15:24:26 GMT -5
Someone please put this game out of its misery. Problem of Dog's comment shows just how far this program has come in 2 years. We've gone from losing to Marist to go 0-11 to new fans like PoD who associate the term "misery" with a 21-3 win over a full scholarship opponent to move to a 5-2 record. Congrats, Hoyas. 5-2 looks pretty great to me and keep it up! Howard was a full scholarship program three years ago when we beat them as well, so I don't think it's as much of a landmark as you'd like to think. Or it shows how little progress Howard has made. As for my "misery" comment, that was made after the first three and out of the 4th quarter, during a 7-3 game that was the epitome of a comedy of errors. We still haven't beaten one team this year that anyone would characterize as decent. 3 non-scholly programs (two of which are truly pathetic), and two abysmal scholarship teams. Progress? I think 5 wins has to be characterized as such, but is it much of an accomplishment? Not really.
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Post by Ro on Oct 15, 2011 15:40:30 GMT -5
Dude, you are the problem. Do you expect to just flip a switch and then suddenly we play in an 85k capacity stadium under the lights and beat up on Oklahoma? What, if we schedule all top and/or scholarship programs then we'll have a good program that you are happy with? Based on your posting history it's a mystery to me as to why you even follow the program and take the time to continually bash the program on our message board. If you actually are trying to support the program, then support it. All you seem to do is complain...over and over and over and over again. We just won, are 5-2, but of course you have a list of things to complain about. How about instead of complaining and listing your issues, post ideas thoughts and solutions. Help try to build something instead of tearing us down with every post. Go find a new hobby.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Oct 15, 2011 15:52:13 GMT -5
Having just gotten home from the game, I was happy with the win. Defense played very well, and the offense started going once they finally opened it up, with a number of shotgun spread sets, replacing the one or two backs in the backfield and putting Howard's defense on their heels.
I would have liked to see us go for it a few times on fourth downs around the Howard 35-45, as only one of the punts was downed inside the 5 (inside the 1, actually) while the other two were touchbacks.
Good win, though, and if I had to guess, I'd say attendance was around 4,500 or so.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Oct 15, 2011 16:01:16 GMT -5
Dude, you are the problem. Do you expect to just flip a switch and then suddenly we play in an 85k capacity stadium under the lights and beat up on Oklahoma? What, if we schedule all top and/or scholarship programs then we'll have a good program that you are happy with? Based on your posting history it's a mystery to me as to why you even follow the program and take the time to continually bash the program on our message board. If you actually are trying to support the program, then support it. All you seem to do is complain...over and over and over and over again. We just won, are 5-2, but of course you have a list of things to complain about. How about instead of complaining and listing your issues, post ideas thoughts and solutions. Help try to build something instead of tearing us down with every post. Go find a new hobby. If you think that asking to schedule institutions that are actually similar to ours in order to gauge the progress of our football program is the same as asking to play Oklahoma, then you're being intentionally obtuse. My point is that the concept that our program is making these great strides is a bit of an exaggeration. I want to see the program improve, but I think we're creating the impression that we're improving simply by manipulating the schedule. If we continue to do that, then we'll never really improve. All we're doing is scheduling down until there's nowhere left to go. The best measure of our progress is the Patriot League standings, and even though our record is measurably better than it was two years ago, my guess is that we'll end up only one win better in the Patriot League standings. Is that really progress?
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Post by 98hoya on Oct 15, 2011 17:07:31 GMT -5
Since the beginning of the 2010 season, Georgetown is now 9-9 (.500), which has to be an accomplishment all its own. Still though, the offense remains sluuggish (9 punts, 97 yards passing, 2 missed FG's) and will need a major step up over the next four weeks to get that sixth win. DFW, I'm concerned about each and every one of the remaining games as well, but the fact remains that the team is 5-2 and there is no scenario where they won't have the best record in many years.
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Post by ahoyadad on Oct 15, 2011 17:13:58 GMT -5
Having just gotten home from the game, I was happy with the win. Defense played very well, and the offense started going once they finally opened it up, with a number of shotgun spread sets, replacing the one or two backs in the backfield and putting Howard's defense on their heels. I would have liked to see us go for it a few times on fourth downs around the Howard 35-45, as only one of the punts was downed inside the 5 (inside the 1, actually) while the other two were touchbacks. Good win, though, and if I had to guess, I'd say attendance was around 4,500 or so. I am thinking / hoping that the O did not open the playbook up too much because this was a non-league game right before 4 consecutive PL games starting next week with Colgate for our Homecoming and did not want too much available on film (?)
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Post by ahoyadad on Oct 15, 2011 17:16:03 GMT -5
Dude, you are the problem. Do you expect to just flip a switch and then suddenly we play in an 85k capacity stadium under the lights and beat up on Oklahoma? What, if we schedule all top and/or scholarship programs then we'll have a good program that you are happy with? Based on your posting history it's a mystery to me as to why you even follow the program and take the time to continually bash the program on our message board. If you actually are trying to support the program, then support it. All you seem to do is complain...over and over and over and over again. We just won, are 5-2, but of course you have a list of things to complain about. How about instead of complaining and listing your issues, post ideas thoughts and solutions. Help try to build something instead of tearing us down with every post. Go find a new hobby. A good solution for people this this %$#@* is probably ignore him and not respond any longer to his pathetic posts
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Post by RusskyHoya on Oct 15, 2011 17:17:43 GMT -5
Three of those punts shouldn't have happened:
4th and 10 at HOW 35 Matt MacZura punt for 35 yards for a touchback. 4th and 18 at HOW 35 Matt MacZura punt for 35 yards for a touchback. 4th and 2 at HOW 41 Matt MacZura punt for 40 yards, downed at the Howrd 1.
The first two should've been FG attempts. Granted, the wind was doing crazy things with kicks, but even a fairly low likelihood of scoring points is better than a 15-yard punt. Besides, they could have kept playing for another 24 hours and Howard still wouldn't have been able to put up points without starting deep in Georgetown territory.
The last punt did get downed at the 1, but fourth and two at the opponent's 41? Come on!
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Post by nodak89 on Oct 15, 2011 17:22:25 GMT -5
I've really enjoyed following the team this season.
There goes old Georgetown straight for a touchdown!
Way to go, Hoyas!
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Post by ahoyadad on Oct 15, 2011 17:32:57 GMT -5
Three of those punts shouldn't have happened: 4th and 10 at HOW 35 Matt MacZura punt for 35 yards for a touchback. 4th and 18 at HOW 35 Matt MacZura punt for 35 yards for a touchback. 4th and 2 at HOW 41 Matt MacZura punt for 40 yards, downed at the Howrd 1. The first two should've been FG attempts. Granted, the wind was doing crazy things with kicks, but even a fairly low likelihood of scoring points is better than a 15-yard punt. Besides, they could have kept playing for another 24 hours and Howard still wouldn't have been able to put up points without starting deep in Georgetown territory. The last punt did get downed at the 1, but fourth and two at the opponent's 41? Come on! they did miss a few FG's today. I don't know that we are any better the .500 in FG attempts this year? could've factored into the decision?
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Post by RusskyHoya on Oct 15, 2011 17:46:21 GMT -5
they did miss a few FG's today. I don't know that we are any better the .500 in FG attempts this year? could've factored into the decision? By the same token, just a few days ago: Senior placekicker Brett Weiss (Phoenix, Md./Boys' Latin) was named the Patriot League Special Teams Player of the Week following his performance in Georgetown's 24-10 victory over Wagner College on Saturday afternoon. Weiss kicked a career-long 49 yard field goal and made all three of his extra point attempts to help the Hoyas hold off the Seahawks.
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Post by washingtonhoya on Oct 15, 2011 17:58:06 GMT -5
Three of those punts shouldn't have happened: 4th and 10 at HOW 35 Matt MacZura punt for 35 yards for a touchback. 4th and 18 at HOW 35 Matt MacZura punt for 35 yards for a touchback. 4th and 2 at HOW 41 Matt MacZura punt for 40 yards, downed at the Howrd 1. The first two should've been FG attempts. Granted, the wind was doing crazy things with kicks, but even a fairly low likelihood of scoring points is better than a 15-yard punt. Besides, they could have kept playing for another 24 hours and Howard still wouldn't have been able to put up points without starting deep in Georgetown territory. The last punt did get downed at the 1, but fourth and two at the opponent's 41? Come on! A tweet I noticed from one of the many times Michigan (a team with FG issues in its own right) punted on 4th and short inside the opponent's 45 against MSU: B1G 4th down tactics will make an economist weep blood. I'm not asking that we replace our Kevin Kelly with Kevin Kelley of Pulaski Academy, but punting on 4th & 2 from the opponents' 41 is a little ridiculous. That said, 5-2 is 5-2 and great progress for the team. Hope they can keep it up next week against Colgate!
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 15, 2011 18:41:52 GMT -5
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Post by CAHoya07 on Oct 15, 2011 20:52:57 GMT -5
Just win, baby. 5-2 going into Homecoming vs. Colgate is quite an accomplishment, regardless of competition.
The final four games of the season will give us a chance to prove what we're really made of. Bring it on.
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Post by derhoya on Oct 15, 2011 21:13:19 GMT -5
Great to get the W.
Next week will be interesting for HC: distractions of family/friends and the festive atmosphere, & our run D (2nd best in PL prior to today's games) vs Eachus and Associates (colgate's running game).
Looking forward to seeing these guys live finally. With as much as others & I have ridden the coaches (and players to an extent) for terrible past performances, I think we all owe a lot of praise to the team for it's recent upswing. Keep it up!
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Oct 16, 2011 12:24:42 GMT -5
I have made it to two games and the brand of football we are playing is much more enjoyable to watch and I think it is the correct approach on O for the type of players we are going to be able to recruit. Give Kelly credit for being able to adjust & change O schemes. Nice W.
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Post by hoyahopeful on Oct 18, 2011 15:21:05 GMT -5
I must admit that a few weeks ago I was close to starting a thread entitled "Georgetown Cupcakes" and reference the Hoyas' remarkably weak out-of-conference schedule. But 5-2 is 5-2 no matter who they are playing. So at the expense of my little play on words, let me offer my congratulations to the Hoyas. I still have my issues with this program, but as Bill Parcells said, "You are what your record says you are".
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