SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 18, 2011 18:56:59 GMT -5
What Clark did was definitely a shove. It's obvious from the second angle.
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FLHoya
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Post by FLHoya on Aug 18, 2011 19:09:03 GMT -5
Not to get too off topic, but any info on how the team actually played? Yes, thank you. Seems like a week has gone by since I asked that myself. Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln... ;D ;D ;D
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kchoya
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Post by kchoya on Aug 18, 2011 19:12:24 GMT -5
Yes, thank you. Seems like a week has gone by since I asked that myself. Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln... ;D ;D ;D Oh the times I long for a FLHoya recap of a Kenner League Chinese Goodwill summer game
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Massholya
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Post by Massholya on Aug 18, 2011 19:13:05 GMT -5
The official hoyatalk boycott of all Chinese products starts... Now.
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Hoya LNU
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Post by Hoya LNU on Aug 18, 2011 19:26:31 GMT -5
WashPost article has been updated - don't know when, but different from the mid-day initial posting. Some additions: “We look to these types of exchanges to promote good sportsmanship and strengthen our people-to-people contact with China,” said the U.S. official, who was not authorized to speak for attribution.
“We believe the organizers of the matches and the two teams will address the issue properly, the sportsmanship and people-to-people friendship the matches are meant to represent will prevail,” said the Chinese spokesman, Wang Baodong, in an e-mail.
The official China news agency Xinhua did not have an immediate account of the game, and while other prominent Chinese Web sites such as 163.com and sina.com posted stories, government censors shortly thereafter took them down. Wang is the spokesman of the PRC Embassy in WDC.
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Aug 18, 2011 19:36:17 GMT -5
Not to get too off topic, but any info on how the team actually played? Yes, thank you. Seems like a week has gone by since I asked that myself. From Gene Wang and HoyaHoops on twitter seemed like the hoyas were down early, then figured out how to handle the bigger Chinese front court players and started coming back. But from Gene's call to CSN it seems like the game never got into a flow and the Chinese team spent so much time at the line there was hardly a game being played.
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kchoya
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Post by kchoya on Aug 18, 2011 19:36:24 GMT -5
The official hoyatalk boycott of all Chinese products starts... Now. Does this mean no General Tso's for dinner tonight?
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Massholya
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Post by Massholya on Aug 18, 2011 19:41:27 GMT -5
Sadly it means no Christmas toys this year for the kiddies. Went into a toy storenand tried not to buy something made in china. Impossible. Sorry kids gotta stick up for my hoyas. Fortunately they will understand
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Aug 18, 2011 19:44:20 GMT -5
Why do you people think this is a bad thing? I have zero problem with how we reacted. If an opposing player approaches my coach, I'm going to react. If my team is getting hammered, and people are throwing things at me in the stands, I have to defend myself. Some of the turn the other cheek and this is bad for the program opinions on this thread are from the same people who have killed our team for being passive in the past. This is basketball. It's ugly to say, but sometimes things like this happen. If somebody swings on me, you best bet Im going to swing right back on that person. And that Washington Post story, very well written I may add, doesn't paint us in a bad light in the least. Things got heated, we defended ourselves and our physical safety. None of the players on this team had shown to be anything but gentlemen in the past. So I'm completely willing to give my Hoyas a mulligan on this one. 100% dead on as usual Daytona...
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Aug 18, 2011 19:55:23 GMT -5
From all accounts we must've been playing great. They shot 57 freethrows to our 15 and the game still ended tied 64-64.
The team and the refs were fixing the game and they still couldn't beat us.
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Post by strummer8526 on Aug 18, 2011 19:56:47 GMT -5
-The most problematic footage involving the Hoyas, IMO, occurred once the fracas rolled out towards the end of the court. Someone on the Hoyas either rushed at #5 (around 34 second mark) of China and knocked him off his feet or met an attacking #5 with an equal amount of force. Then he ran away quickly. Who was that? That was Jason. And if you watch the first video posted (the one that has a better view of the baseline portion of the action), you see number 5 SLAM a chair down in the vicinity of Bowen's head. Honestly, it was the one move in the whole melee that had the potential to really hurt someone. If Clark put that guy on his ass and then hightailed it out of the arena on a motorcycle, I would think he was justified. Giving the dude a firm shove and then bouncing away was a-ok in my book.
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Post by strummer8526 on Aug 18, 2011 19:59:08 GMT -5
China vs Brazil (Basketball) Check out 1:30-1:50. Take special note of the stomping at 1:45. Looks familiar. Meanwhile, how many fights have GU players gotten into in the last 10 years?
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CO_Hoya
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Post by CO_Hoya on Aug 18, 2011 20:04:52 GMT -5
Check out 1:30-1:50. Take special note of the stomping at 1:45. Looks familiar. Meanwhile, how many fights have GU players gotten into in the last 10 years? Do fights between teammates count?
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Aug 18, 2011 20:23:07 GMT -5
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rosslynhoya
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Post by rosslynhoya on Aug 18, 2011 20:33:36 GMT -5
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hsb
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Post by hsb on Aug 18, 2011 20:44:59 GMT -5
Those Chinese Army thugs looked very comfortable trying to apply a group smack down on JC (including the Chinese guy in plain clothes who immediately ran onto the Court to start kicking JC after JC pushed the 1st thug who tried to tackle him).
Perhaps they thought they were back at Tienanman Square in the good old days (no pictures please or I run you over with tank).
DEMOCRACY NOW!!!
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Aug 18, 2011 20:47:12 GMT -5
there is a little park directly across the street from their embassy on CT ave. Think it needs a GU flag.
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Aug 18, 2011 20:48:47 GMT -5
Don't know if this has already been said but KA said he wants to be the villain. Maybe this helps with his recruitment.......................
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Post by strummer8526 on Aug 18, 2011 20:49:32 GMT -5
there is a little park directly across the street from their embassy on CT ave. Think it needs a GU flag. Awesome idea. If I were in DC right now, I would be putting Georgetown gear, signs, etc. near the embassy for the next week.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Aug 18, 2011 20:51:36 GMT -5
The bench rushes JC. Behind the basket, one Chinese player got off one hit with a chair and was going for a second. That had the potential to seriously hurt our player. Other Chinese players armed themselves with chairs. The crowd got into it and threw objects at opponents. It's disgusting, cowardly behavior, but it's nothing new coming from a Chinese team and the Chinese fans: www.nytimes.com/2005/07/31/sports/31iht-hoops.htmlThe two photos here ( www.newyorkpost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/georgetown_basketball_players_brawl_xzUWDUAfDbWbAdu4UCjobK ) show how first Captain Clark is assaulted by 4 Chinese players and Porter is yelling at them, and then the second photo shows how Markel, GW, Porter and Thompson intervene. Clark is down somewhere between Porter and Hollis, and still the Chinese in the khaki shorts is trying to kick JC. To the poster who said that he would be disappointed if this incident was needed to bond this year's team I say that, if there was any doubt that there were sentiments left from KL, this incident erases it all and bonds this group of players like no other we have seen recently. This team just became a Band of Brothers. I'm extremely proud of how our team and staff defended themselves and did not escalate matters.
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