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Post by Problem of Dog on Nov 12, 2011 19:36:01 GMT -5
At work and not watching the Boise State - TCU game. How bad was the pass interference call to keep the [ultimately unsuccessful] Boise State drive alive? Bad. Might've been pass interference if the ball was anywhere near catchable. Ball was thrown about 10 yards past the receiver, and all of the contact occurred after the ball flew 5 yards over his head.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Nov 12, 2011 19:55:42 GMT -5
At work and not watching the Boise State - TCU game. How bad was the pass interference call to keep the [ultimately unsuccessful] Boise State drive alive? Bad. Might've been pass interference if the ball was anywhere near catchable. Ball was thrown about 10 yards past the receiver, and all of the contact occurred after the ball flew 5 yards over his head. Contact was very weak, also. Defender put his hand on the receiver's back. No grabbing, holding, punching, etc. No way that call should have been made. How about Boise? Attempting to run down the clock and attempt a game-winning FG in the fourth quarter, the Broncos fumbled the football. Then they let TCU drive the length of the field for a TD and a 2 point conversion that should have been stopped. Then Kellen Moore throws four terrible passes, only to be bailed out by the refs. Then Boise has another chance to win the game on a FG and its kicker absolutely flubs the kick. So many chances to win the football game, and Boise came up short every time. If Kellen Moore makes it to the DAC, Casey Pachall should walk into the Heisman ceremony, punch Moore in the teeth, and take his seat.
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Post by whatmaroon on Nov 12, 2011 21:16:21 GMT -5
Boise also got away with massive holding on both third and fourth down on the pass interference call. It wasn't quite 2007 West Virginia-Pitt level homer officiating, but it was pretty bad. And I have no idea what Chris Petersen was doing on that series. He knows his field goal kicker is terrible, yet with :24 and 2 timeouts left he plays for the kick?
Houston's hosting Gameday next week. Win out, and the Coogs are going to the BCS!
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Post by hoyainspirit on Nov 13, 2011 7:01:40 GMT -5
Oklahoma should feel really bad about losing to Texas Tech.
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Post by kchoya on Nov 13, 2011 11:04:16 GMT -5
Oklahoma should feel really bad about losing to Texas Tech. Oklahoma should feel really bad about losing one of those games every year.
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Post by hifigator on Nov 14, 2011 13:59:34 GMT -5
Yeah ... how much stock can we put in those comparative games? Texas Tech beats Oklahoma but is absolutely shellacked by Okie St. 66-6!!!
Sounds like bedlam in Stillwater is going to be pretty fun for the home team.
Hmmm....
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Post by RDF on Nov 14, 2011 15:26:12 GMT -5
Oklahoma is a byproduct of the ignorance of having a poll prior to season starting. It helps their cause when they do lose based on what? It's always been my argument in past years/still is--how do you have a SOS until 12 game season is concluded? FSU has lost any game they've played against good competition and yet they are a "great win" for OU? Why? Last time I checked Texas Tech is doing what most expected--playing like a crappy team. Yet they not only won at OU-they won by moving up/down the field all game and it's not like they played a perfect game either--they went for it 3 times and turned ball over on downs--2 times in redzone, they committed penalties, they dropped potential ints, etc.....so this "they played game of their season" garbage is laughable. They played better then the crappy usual they play--but they still didn't play perfect. Can't wait for Stoops to go to the "weather delay" excuse.
Good riddance Boise. The "Butler" of CFB got gifted every opportunity to win that game and the call/non calls on last drive were so sickening that it should be investigated. TCU guys rushing Moore getting tackled, Byron Haut's dirty play, etc...just glad justice was served and these posers were put in their place. Now Peterson can go be the next Dan Hawkins at a big school gig.
Funny how people are starting to realize that Stanford's offense isn't what they envisioned a great player like Luck operating and it's actually hurting him. How? He has no WR's to throw to and they play offense like an SEC team--power running, and short passing game--only their passes go to TE's and not WR's. Their lack of speed showed against Oregon and turnovers killed them. Luck deserves MORE praise imo for having that team be in position they are/were for past year.
One thing that is going to hurt Oregon if BCS gets chaotic and a 1 loss team has shot at title game--the putrid case of Pac 12 South--they'll get no credit for winning Conference Title game as South is up for grabs between Arizona State (who is Denny Erickson-ing up the Devils after loss to Paul Wolff's Fighting Cougs--and with WSU's 3rd String FR QB playiing and torching ASU), UCLA (Neuheisel's team controls destiny after losing 31-6 at Utah to their 2nd string QB), and Utah-yes the Utes are still alive for Pac 12 South. USC does play Oregon this week in what would've likely been a game that would've had rematch in a few weeks, but no wins over Trojans carry weight in BCS computers, so game is worthless for Ducks. So they'll have Oregon State and Pac 12 South winner as their argument and the "we scored on LSU......if we didn't give up turnovers" argument-which is hilarious because doesn't opposing team have something to do with turnovers?
I'm starting to think UGA is best team in SEC right now. Know they lost early in year but they were a very young team and they have best QB in SEC in Aaron Murray. Will not be surprised if they beat LSU (and for the is it fair? crowd--is it fair LSU will have to play a road game against UGA in Georgia Dome to get to NC game? LOL Bet they'd rather play Bama again then UGA at this time of year)
Texas lost a kid that I really thought played his butt off this year--Fozzy Whitaker. Know Horns are rebuilding but Whitaker was their MVP imo this year--and fact he won't get to finish season--feel bad for him. Not a great player but played great as a SR.
Opposite of that--anyone represent the failure of their team more then A&M's Jeff Fuller this year? Dropping passes, playing half assed and just been awful this year.
Notre Dame-Maryland. "White" Shannon strikes for Terps. Randy Edsall actually wanted Randy Shannon to be his DC--for his sake--he's lucky he didn't--because they'd be winless if that was case. What was with the ND helmets? AWFUL. They have one of the best helmets in CFB and put a bunch of crap on it?
The Miami-FSU game has sunk so low-ESPN ignored the opening 7 minutes to show Penn State postgame coverage. The game lived down to awful expecations again. Two teams that talk of past all the time and what they need to do to get back to that--how about you forget about it--and focus on present? Turnovers. Penalties. Penalties that weren't penalties. Awful officiating, bad coaching, awful coaching, SR's playing like Pee Wee players, guys not knowing the rules, went from Game of the Year to Game you want to not televise to anyone who enjoys well played football. FSU is at least recruiting well, but they aren't as close as their fans think to being great again. Next year they will be hyped even more then this year--but not knowing their schedule--I still see them beneath Clemson in their division and that means not very good as ACC football sucks.
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Post by kchoya on Nov 14, 2011 15:29:30 GMT -5
What was with the ND helmets? AWFUL. They have one of the best helmets in CFB and put a bunch of crap on it? I agree. I didn't think anyone could outdo the University of Maryland at Kevin Plank in ugly uniforms/helmets, but ND did: www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/33177645
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Post by nodak89 on Nov 14, 2011 16:05:47 GMT -5
What was with the ND helmets? AWFUL. They have one of the best helmets in CFB and put a bunch of crap on it? I agree. I didn't think anyone could outdo the University of Maryland at Kevin Plank in ugly uniforms/helmets, but ND did: www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/33177645 nice bowling ball
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Post by FormerHoya on Nov 14, 2011 17:17:33 GMT -5
Those helmets are an abomination. The new Gold on the regular helmets, however, is a huge improvement.
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 14, 2011 18:07:57 GMT -5
RDF, I agree that Oklahoma has no business being considered for the championship game, but I wouldn't belittle their schedule too much, as they did demolish both Texas and Kansas State. Those teams may not be great, but I think they are legitimate top 20 teams, and Oklahoma mopped the floor with both of them.
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Post by RDF on Nov 14, 2011 23:46:30 GMT -5
RDF, I agree that Oklahoma has no business being considered for the championship game, but I wouldn't belittle their schedule too much, as they did demolish both Texas and Kansas State. Those teams may not be great, but I think they are legitimate top 20 teams, and Oklahoma mopped the floor with both of them. Disagree completely in regards to both being top 20 teams--but more Texas then KSU--who is well coached. Texas is rebuilding but I don't see a top 20 team at all.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Nov 15, 2011 20:49:47 GMT -5
Oklahoma is a byproduct of the ignorance of having a poll prior to season starting. It helps their cause when they do lose based on what? It's always been my argument in past years/still is--how do you have a SOS until 12 game season is concluded? FSU has lost any game they've played against good competition and yet they are a "great win" for OU? Why? Last time I checked Texas Tech is doing what most expected--playing like a crappy team. Yet they not only won at OU-they won by moving up/down the field all game and it's not like they played a perfect game either--they went for it 3 times and turned ball over on downs--2 times in redzone, they committed penalties, they dropped potential ints, etc.....so this "they played game of their season" garbage is laughable. They played better then the crappy usual they play--but they still didn't play perfect. Can't wait for Stoops to go to the "weather delay" excuse. Good riddance Boise. The "Butler" of CFB got gifted every opportunity to win that game and the call/non calls on last drive were so sickening that it should be investigated. TCU guys rushing Moore getting tackled, Byron Haut's dirty play, etc...just glad justice was served and these posers were put in their place. Now Peterson can go be the next Dan Hawkins at a big school gig. Funny how people are starting to realize that Stanford's offense isn't what they envisioned a great player like Luck operating and it's actually hurting him. How? He has no WR's to throw to and they play offense like an SEC team--power running, and short passing game--only their passes go to TE's and not WR's. Their lack of speed showed against Oregon and turnovers killed them. Luck deserves MORE praise imo for having that team be in position they are/were for past year. One thing that is going to hurt Oregon if BCS gets chaotic and a 1 loss team has shot at title game--the putrid case of Pac 12 South--they'll get no credit for winning Conference Title game as South is up for grabs between Arizona State (who is Denny Erickson-ing up the Devils after loss to Paul Wolff's Fighting Cougs--and with WSU's 3rd String FR QB playiing and torching ASU), UCLA (Neuheisel's team controls destiny after losing 31-6 at Utah to their 2nd string QB), and Utah-yes the Utes are still alive for Pac 12 South. USC does play Oregon this week in what would've likely been a game that would've had rematch in a few weeks, but no wins over Trojans carry weight in BCS computers, so game is worthless for Ducks. So they'll have Oregon State and Pac 12 South winner as their argument and the "we scored on LSU......if we didn't give up turnovers" argument-which is hilarious because doesn't opposing team have something to do with turnovers? I'm starting to think UGA is best team in SEC right now. Know they lost early in year but they were a very young team and they have best QB in SEC in Aaron Murray. Will not be surprised if they beat LSU (and for the is it fair? crowd--is it fair LSU will have to play a road game against UGA in Georgia Dome to get to NC game? LOL Bet they'd rather play Bama again then UGA at this time of year) Texas lost a kid that I really thought played his butt off this year--Fozzy Whitaker. Know Horns are rebuilding but Whitaker was their MVP imo this year--and fact he won't get to finish season--feel bad for him. Not a great player but played great as a SR. Opposite of that--anyone represent the failure of their team more then A&M's Jeff Fuller this year? Dropping passes, playing half assed and just been awful this year. Notre Dame-Maryland. "White" Shannon strikes for Terps. Randy Edsall actually wanted Randy Shannon to be his DC--for his sake--he's lucky he didn't--because they'd be winless if that was case. What was with the ND helmets? AWFUL. They have one of the best helmets in CFB and put a bunch of crap on it? The Miami-FSU game has sunk so low-ESPN ignored the opening 7 minutes to show Penn State postgame coverage. The game lived down to awful expecations again. Two teams that talk of past all the time and what they need to do to get back to that--how about you forget about it--and focus on present? Turnovers. Penalties. Penalties that weren't penalties. Awful officiating, bad coaching, awful coaching, SR's playing like Pee Wee players, guys not knowing the rules, went from Game of the Year to Game you want to not televise to anyone who enjoys well played football. FSU is at least recruiting well, but they aren't as close as their fans think to being great again. Next year they will be hyped even more then this year--but not knowing their schedule--I still see them beneath Clemson in their division and that means not very good as ACC football sucks. Absolutely agree re: Fozzy Whittaker, the 'Horns best offensive player in 2011. His career had been marked by injuries and inconsistency, but he came back stronger and faster this season and provided an important senior presence on a team full of kids. Also just a really positive guy and I'm happy I'll be able to cheer for him before the game on senior day this Saturday. OU fans went to the "weather delay" excuse weeks ago. It's a distinct possibility that Texas Tech will not gain bowl eligibility this year: the Red Raiders' final two games are at Mizzou and vs. Baylor in Dallas. On a related note, rumors abound that Tommy Tuberville doesn't like Lubbock (duh) and would really prefer to have another job. I'll bet Mike Leach is sitting in Key West letting book revenue pour in, laughing his ass off, and arguing with Ralph Friedgen about whose former program is going to have a 3-9 season first. Smart money's on the Terps, currently sitting at 2-8. Not sure if this is what you were referring to or not in the Boise game, but Byron Hout of Boise State committed an obvious personal foul against TCU by reaching in and ripping Casey Pachall's facemask after the whistle had blown. Totally dirty play, ignored by the Versus crew in commentary. Here it is for those who didn't see it: Whoever stated in another thread that TCU has not had a good season is the reason I hate some college sports "fans." The Frogs are 8-2 and cruising to a third straight MWC title, but the casual fan only knows that they lost to Baylor. Lazy generalities are bad for college football, and enable Top-10 preseason rankings of once-great, now-mediocre programs like Florida State, because AP voters are lazy, too. ("Oh, Florida State always gets good players and I think they beat Clemson last year and I heard some good things about Jimbo Fisher so I guess I'll just put the 'Noles at 6.") Texas was ranked as high as 11 this season because of voter laziness (Oooooh, they blew out Iowa State, I think they're "back!") Although I'm happy with the results on the field so far this season, there's no way the 'Horns are a top 15 team. Watch the freaking games, people. It's not a difficult sport to comprehend if you watch the freaking games. Side note: In the era of DVRs, perhaps AP ballots should not be submitted until Monday morning. Surprise of the season: Virginia. The words "Cavaliers" and "control their own destiny" are rarely used in the same sentence in November, but if the Wahoos win at Florida State this weekend, they finish the year against Va. Tech for the ACC Coastal championship in the Commonwealth Cup.
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Post by kchoya on Nov 15, 2011 21:11:27 GMT -5
Not sure if this is what you were referring to or not in the Boise game, but Byron Hout of Boise State committed an obvious personal foul against TCU by reaching in and ripping Casey Pachall's facemask after the whistle had blown. Totally dirty play, ignored by the Versus crew in commentary. Here it is for those who didn't see it: You mean the poor, innocent Byron Hout who was punched by LeGarrette Blount? Or the Byron Hout who said this in reference to that BSU-Oregon incident: "Emotions were running high from the game and I think that just carried over to the whole incident," Hout said. "A great football player is in control of his emotions out there. You can't just be out there running wild."
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 15, 2011 21:27:57 GMT -5
With TCU, I think it's more that they're suffering from non-BCS conference syndrome. If they don't go undefeated, they can't be any good. Plus, I think the loss to SMU hurt them much more than the loss to Baylor.
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Post by hifigator on Nov 16, 2011 12:07:01 GMT -5
Yeah, pretty much agree. But then again, maybe the point in the poorly worded comment was that "TCU has not had a good season," simply means that this year is a dropoff from the previous couple and that while you could make a case for TCU being among the Nation's elite during the past couple of years, that isn't the case this year.
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Post by kghoya on Nov 16, 2011 14:04:15 GMT -5
New Mexico hired Bob Davie. I can't believe I just typed that.
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Post by RDF on Nov 16, 2011 15:54:01 GMT -5
New Mexico hired Bob Davie. I can't believe I just typed that. They must love their "Foot-BAH" in New Mexico, KG! ;D
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Post by CAHoya07 on Nov 16, 2011 16:07:41 GMT -5
I think we need to create a thread that points out how many errors ESPN makes in its coverage sometimes. For example, watching the College Football show, they put Texas on upset alert vs. Kansas State. Kansas State is ranked 13th. Texas is ranked 23rd. SMH.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 9:16:56 GMT -5
I think we need to create a thread that points out how many errors ESPN makes in its coverage sometimes. For example, watching the College Football show, they put Texas on upset alert vs. Kansas State. Kansas State is ranked 13th. Texas is ranked 23rd. SMH. Texas is favored by 8.5. Vegas is smarter than the rankings.
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