Homers for 3000?!?! Goes 5/5?!?!

[tashoya]

Jul 12, 2011 4:59:34 GMT -5 HoyaFanNY said:

Jul 11, 2011 22:16:46 GMT -5 tashoya said:

Congrats to Jeter. Singleton is a class act and actually talks about baseball. Flaherty is a nice enough guy (seemingly) but he has no business in a broadcasting booth. However, saying that he acts like an all-time great is flat-out wrong. If anything, he undersells how solid a player he was for multiple organizations. He jokes about how bad an offensive player he was during every broadcast to the point where it has almost become his schtick. As a Yankees fan, I don't care that Paul O'Neill eats a crapton of food and that's the only reason he's there. It's Paul O'Neill. If you think Kay is bad, be thankful you're not listening on the radio to Sterling and Waldman. Talk about painful.

i really like the mets crew. darling and hernandez are very good.
o'neill is one of my favorite former reds. why they traded him for roberto kelly is beyond me. an ohio native that probably would have stayed in cincinnati long term.

It's never been overtly stated but I always got the impression that Pinella and O'Neill really didn't get along or, at the least, see eye to eye as to what type of player O'Neill should have been. Pinella wanted O'Neill to be a prototypical power/pull hitter and O'Neill wanted to be more like he was with the Yankees. I could see neither one of them backing down.

[hoyatables]

I don't understand how anyone could not like Paul O'Neill. Who the hell cares if the guy likes to eat now? Lord knows the man was harder on himself than anyone else might have been when he was playing ball. He's earned the right to be a little selfish.

[Boz]

Jul 12, 2011 10:40:45 GMT -5 hoyatables said:

I don't understand how anyone could not like Paul O'Neill.

;D

[RDF]

Jul 12, 2011 10:40:45 GMT -5 hoyatables said:

I don't understand how anyone could not like Paul O'Neill. Who the hell cares if the guy likes to eat now? Lord knows the man was harder on himself than anyone else might have been when he was playing ball. He's earned the right to be a little selfish.

Never said I don't like Paul O'Neill, I just don't like when he/Kay are in booth talking about food and Kay proceeds to eat and talk with his fat pumpkin head full of ice cream as game is going on. They need a 3rd guy in booth to keep them on task as Kay sounds like he wants to makeout with Paul while doing a game.

[kchoya]

Jul 12, 2011 11:09:50 GMT -5 RDF said:

Jul 12, 2011 10:40:45 GMT -5 hoyatables said:

I don't understand how anyone could not like Paul O'Neill. Who the hell cares if the guy likes to eat now? Lord knows the man was harder on himself than anyone else might have been when he was playing ball. He's earned the right to be a little selfish.

Never said I don't like Paul O'Neill, I just don't like when he/Kay are in booth talking about food and Kay proceeds to eat and talk with his fat pumpkin head full of ice cream as game is going on. They need a 3rd guy in booth to keep them on task as Kay sounds like he wants to makeout with Paul while doing a game.

Could be worse. You could have to listen to Chris Berman. I was in the shower at the gym last night and all I could hear is that moron screaming over the television in the locker room that was broadcasting the home run derby.

[hoyatables]

Jul 12, 2011 11:09:50 GMT -5 RDF said:

Jul 12, 2011 10:40:45 GMT -5 hoyatables said:

I don't understand how anyone could not like Paul O'Neill. Who the hell cares if the guy likes to eat now? Lord knows the man was harder on himself than anyone else might have been when he was playing ball. He's earned the right to be a little selfish.

Never said I don't like Paul O'Neill, I just don't like when he/Kay are in booth talking about food and Kay proceeds to eat and talk with his fat pumpkin head full of ice cream as game is going on. They need a 3rd guy in booth to keep them on task as Kay sounds like he wants to makeout with Paul while doing a game.

Heh, fair enough.

I grew up listening to the games and never had to "see" the announcers. John Sterling changed for me the day I finally saw what he looked like.

John Sterling and Joe Angel were a good duo. I didn't mind Kay when he was solely on the radio with John -- somehow the two personalities cancelled each other out. I don't care much for the new woman who does play by play with John.

[RDF]

I would rather follow a gamecast update of Yankees then listen to Waldman. "Rogah Clemens is baaaaaaaackkkkkkkkk" is pure comedic genius and sadly unintentional. I grew up with Sterling doing Braves/Hawks games on TBS so used to him and has good pipes while I understand he can be annoying for fans--especially with his awful calls-he can make a pop up to 3rd sound like it's got chance to go out.

Berman and ESPN ruin every sport when it comes to announcing. Fact Ron Franklin is gone is a joke. I liked Dan Schulman before he paired with Vitale and became obsessed with Duke--must be a thing you are ordered if you work with that guy.

Paul O'Neill is one of my favorite players dating back to when he was with Reds. Most of youth spent in Cedar Rapids, IA where Reds used to have a class A affiliate in Midwest League so they were team I liked in NL.

[RDF]

Since I took it off topic--sorry about that--I'd add that it was impressive how Jeter got the 3000th hit and appreciate his career as a Yankee fan. Also agree with poster who said he should've gone to the All Star Game. If you can play all week, you certainly can play in All Star game that fans voted you in--and wrongfully ahead of more deserving player in Cabrera. Then again, a mini break with Minka Kelly might have me skipping work related invites too.

[SirSaxa]

Jul 12, 2011 13:35:07 GMT -5 RDF said:

Since I took it off topic--sorry about that--I'd add that it was impressive how Jeter got the 3000th hit and appreciate his career as a Yankee fan. Also agree with poster who said he should've gone to the All Star Game. If you can play all week, you certainly can play in All Star game that fans voted you in--and wrongfully ahead of more deserving player in Cabrera. Then again, a mini break with Minka Kelly might have me skipping work related invites too.

OK, everyone knows I am a big Jeter fan. So.... I am sure it won't be a surprise that I give the guy a break for skipping the All Star game.

Why?
1. He just came off 3 weeks on the DL - only the second time in his career. It makes sense that he take a few days off, continue to rehab his leg and get ready for the second half of the season.

2. Jeter just went through about as stressful a time as anyone can dealing with his 3,000th hit and the NY media. Not the Podunk media, the NY media.

3. He's been having his worst season - and at his age, 37, he could use a couple of days off.

4. The same folks who kept ranting on Jeter not being a deserving ALL STAR this year (as if he personally filled in all those ballots) are now bashing him for skipping the game... thereby giving someone younger and more worthy a chance to go?

5. Jeter has been to countless ALL STAR Games over the years. He can skip one if he chooses.

6. If he DID go, he would be absolutely mobbed my media, MLB officials, fans, everyone you could think of. After all the attention and pressure of the NY and National media leading up to his 3,000 -- the guys deserves and NEEDS a break.

7. He just did MLB a HUGE favor by getting his 3,000th hit the day after that tragic episode in Texas with the Firefighter Dad. That story could have lingered for days, maybe right into the AS game. But Jeter's 3,000th got MLB a new story to run with. BTW, I hope the Rangers and MLB and the Fire Dept. team up to raise some money for that poor kid and his family.


Jeter -- as the Yankee capt. -- is constantly beseiged by the media for answers to everything. He has spent 16 years in NY answering every question -- from the NY and National press. He has been available, and polite and responsive every single time. Jeter has more than paid his dues. But his number one responsibility is to his teammates, the Yankee organization, and to Yankee fans. At 37 years old, he deserves a few days off to rest and recuperate and get ready for the second half of the season. The Yanks are in the heat of yet another pennant race... and that is and should be #1 at the very top of his priority list. The All Star game will survive without him.

[HoyaFanNY]

Jul 12, 2011 7:04:45 GMT -5 tashoya said:

Jul 12, 2011 4:59:34 GMT -5 HoyaFanNY said:

i really like the mets crew. darling and hernandez are very good.
o'neill is one of my favorite former reds. why they traded him for roberto kelly is beyond me. an ohio native that probably would have stayed in cincinnati long term.

It's never been overtly stated but I always got the impression that Pinella and O'Neill really didn't get along or, at the least, see eye to eye as to what type of player O'Neill should have been. Pinella wanted O'Neill to be a prototypical power/pull hitter and O'Neill wanted to be more like he was with the Yankees. I could see neither one of them backing down.

i think you are correct. i don't think lou thought o'neill would ever be good against lefties (which he wasn't in cinn) and went for flash over substance in trading for bobby kelly.

[SirSaxa]

Bud Selig on Jeter and the All Star Game

"Let's put the Derek Jeter question to bed: There isn't a player that I'm more proud of in the last 15 years than Derek Jeter," Selig said. "He has played the game like it should be played. He's even been a better human being off the field as great as he is on the field. So any concerns that I keep hearing about Derek Jeter, I know why Derek Jeter isn't here. I respect that. And I must tell you I think I would have made the same decision that Derek Jeter did.

"Derek Jeter has brought to this sport great pride. He's become a role model. Earned it. Still earning it. And so any suggestion that I, or anybody else, is unhappy with him about not being here is just false."

[sead43]

Jul 12, 2011 13:55:53 GMT -5 SirSaxa said:

BTW, I hope the Rangers and MLB and the Fire Dept. team up to raise some money for that poor kid and his family.

mlb.sbnation.com/2011/7/8/2267144/shannon-stone-memorial-fund-texas-rangers-stadium-fall

includes a link where you can donate.

[DanMcQ]

Quoting Bud Selig for affirmation? How low can you go?

;D

Jon Lester is on the DL and he showed up.

[HoyaFanNY]

rivera and cc didn't go either. they must have been physically and mentally exhausted as well....

[SFHoya99]

1) The idea that Bud Selig has any idea how good of a person Derek Jeter is off the field is silly.

2) People forget that when ARod was getting criticized early in his Yankee career, the Cap'n was pretty uncaptainly.

3) Are the Yankees announcers worse than the Fox production last night? A whole inning with Justin Timberlake? Tim McCarver's weird obsession with Jeter than even disturbed Buck?

[SirSaxa]

Jul 13, 2011 5:08:01 GMT -5 HoyaFanNY said:

rivera and cc didn't go either. they must have been physically and mentally exhausted as well....

Rivera had soreness in his right arm last week and was held out 4-5 days before returning to pitch one inning over the weekend. At 41 years old, he and the Yankees decided a few days of extra rest was warranted.

CC? Despite leading the Majors in W's and with an ERA of 2.72 was left OFF the AL roster?? So instead he planned a 3 day vacation with his family in Bermuda. Sunday afternoon, CC was added as a last second replacement even though he'd be ineligible to pitch as he threw a complete game shutout on Sunday. CC opted to stick with plan A and not disappoint his family.

Oh, and A-Rod has surgery on Monday, will be out 4-6 weeks.

Amazing how all the Yankee-haters suddenly are offended when a few Yanks miss the All Star game because they put their team first.

[DanMcQ]

Beckett injured his knee in his last start but showed up and gave it a try.

Face it Saxa: your beloved heroes let down the people!!!

[Boz]

Shouldn't they just name players to the All-Star team and have done with it?

Is the game really necessary?
(God knows the abysmal Berman-chorused HR Derby is not).

They could just flip a coin for the home field in the WS.

Yeah, OK, you could say this for all sports, but I think it applies more to baseball and football than to the others. In basketball and hockey, most of the stars seem to still want to play the game and enjoy the festivities.

I don't think I've watched an All-Star game, at least not in its entirety, in God knows how long. (Though I'll admit I still really enjoy the NHL skills competition, mainly because the players really enjoy it too).

[kchoya]

Jul 13, 2011 8:07:45 GMT -5 SirSaxa said:

Jul 13, 2011 5:08:01 GMT -5 HoyaFanNY said:

rivera and cc didn't go either. they must have been physically and mentally exhausted as well....

Rivera had soreness in his right arm last week and was held out 4-5 days before returning to pitch one inning over the weekend. At 41 years old, he and the Yankees decided a few days of extra rest was warranted.

CC? Despite leading the Majors in W's and with an ERA of 2.72 was left OFF the AL roster?? So instead he planned a 3 day vacation with his family in Bermuda. Sunday afternoon, CC was added as a last second replacement even though he'd be ineligible to pitch as he threw a complete game shutout on Sunday. CC opted to stick with plan A and not disappoint his family.

Oh, and A-Rod has surgery on Monday, will be out 4-6 weeks.

Amazing how all the Yankee-haters suddenly are offended when a few Yanks miss the All Star game because they put their team first.

It must be SO hard to be a Yankee fan. I feel sorry for you and all the abuse you have to take.

[HoyaFanNY]

Jul 13, 2011 8:07:45 GMT -5 SirSaxa said:

Jul 13, 2011 5:08:01 GMT -5 HoyaFanNY said:

rivera and cc didn't go either. they must have been physically and mentally exhausted as well....

Rivera had soreness in his right arm last week and was held out 4-5 days before returning to pitch one inning over the weekend. At 41 years old, he and the Yankees decided a few days of extra rest was warranted.

CC? Despite leading the Majors in W's and with an ERA of 2.72 was left OFF the AL roster?? So instead he planned a 3 day vacation with his family in Bermuda. Sunday afternoon, CC was added as a last second replacement even though he'd be ineligible to pitch as he threw a complete game shutout on Sunday. CC opted to stick with plan A and not disappoint his family.

Oh, and A-Rod has surgery on Monday, will be out 4-6 weeks.

Amazing how all the Yankee-haters suddenly are offended when a few Yanks miss the All Star game because they put their team first.

you completely misunderstood my post. i was saying they could have at least SHOWN UP (other than a-rod). forget playing, just go and show the respect to the fans/players that chose you to be there. reyes was there. victorino was there. lester was there. braun was there. jeter's excuse is a joke. you're too blinded by your pinstripe love to see that.