DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 7, 2011 11:48:17 GMT -5
Like many of the 80% of Americans that do not have a passport and/or do not travel overseas, I hadn't heard much about News Of The World before this week. This has major implications in the media world, particularly if some of these tactics were used elsewhere in the News Corp empire. www.guardian.co.uk/media/newsoftheworld |
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Post by Boz on Jul 7, 2011 13:04:46 GMT -5
......particularly if some of these tactics were used elsewhere in the News Corp empire. Kent: Professor, without knowing precisely any of the details, would you say it's time for our viewers to engage in wild speculation? Professor: Yes I would, Kent! ;D |
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Post by theexorcist on Jul 7, 2011 13:16:08 GMT -5
This is more an England thing - their newspapers operate with a minimal covering of ethics and consistently do things so nasty you'd assume that Nancy Grace was CEO. In such a cutthroat business, it's not that surprising that justifying hacking voice mails and emails was determined to be legit after a long slide down a slippery slope.
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Post by Bando on Jul 7, 2011 13:17:03 GMT -5
Considering how high up the NewsCorp chain this goes, it should be fun to see how all this pans out. The merger with BSkyB has to be dead. Hell, the Tories might even suffer from this (one of the perps became Cameron's communications director when the Conservatives won).
The business ethos of Rupert Murdoch: hacking the voice mail of a 14 year old murder victim (and inadvertently giving false hope to her family) is fine because of profit, dammit!
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 7, 2011 13:27:27 GMT -5
Kent: Professor, without knowing precisely any of the details, would you say it's time for our viewers to engage in wild speculation? Professor: Yes I would, Kent! That's not speculation, but it's a concern. NewsCorp not only runs News of the World in the UK, but the Sun (daily circ 3.5 million) and the august Times (of London), plus too many other properties worldwide to list. You can review the holdings here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_News_Corporation |
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Post by Bando on Jul 7, 2011 13:48:33 GMT -5
So NotW is closing. I will place a substantially large bet that The Sun will go to 7-days a week sometime in the next month or so. This is a fig leaf of contrition.
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Post by Boz on Jul 7, 2011 14:18:09 GMT -5
Kent: Professor, without knowing precisely any of the details, would you say it's time for our viewers to engage in wild speculation? Professor: Yes I would, Kent! That's not speculation, but it's a concern. NewsCorp not only runs News of the World in the UK, but the Sun (daily circ 3.5 million) and the august Times (of London), plus too many other properties worldwide to list. You can review the holdings here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_News_CorporationNo one is disputing the reach or vast holdings of NewsCorp. If that in and of itself is a concern, well that's a different discussion altogether. I'll call Michael Powell. ;D But unless you can point to any of the reporting where there is a hint of any implication of the same tactics at other brands, then yes, I'd call it speculation. But hey, posit away. It's a free country. |
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Post by Bando on Jul 7, 2011 16:12:03 GMT -5
Scotland Yard has already opened an investigation of the Sun...
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Post by Boz on Jul 7, 2011 16:33:05 GMT -5
I don't believe that's accurate.
They are investigating the payments. Some of the people involved in that investigation may have moved from one brand to the other over the course of the time scope of the investigation, but I have seen nothing to indicate the Sun itself is under any official investigation or has been accused of any impropriety.
Or at least I can't find it.
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Post by The Stig on Jul 7, 2011 20:44:38 GMT -5
This is hardly the first slimy thing NoTW did. I remember reading some of the stuff from the Max Mosley court case, and their tactics were pretty shocking. For example, to get the quotes for their scandalous stories, they write a scandalous (and totally made up) statement from a "witness" and then bribe/blackmail somebody into signing it.
I don't think their slimeball tactics are as much a News Corp thing as a tabloid thing. Do I think the WSJ is hacking into dead soldiers' voicemails? No way. Do I think that a paper like the Daily Mail, despite their outrage over this incident, might be doing something similar? I wouldn't put it past the bastards. They're all garbage, although NotW was the worst of the worst.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 8, 2011 8:45:48 GMT -5
Is it really that tough a decision to close your newspaper when all the advertisers have already pullled out?
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Post by Bando on Jul 11, 2011 14:40:38 GMT -5
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Post by FormerHoya on Jul 11, 2011 17:05:05 GMT -5
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Post by Boz on Jul 11, 2011 17:42:26 GMT -5
Worst. Queen. Album. Ever.
Well at least before "The Game" came out anyway.
(Side Note: Most underrated Queen album? "Jazz," hands down, no argument).
To bando, I stand corrected. [EDIT: sorry, to bando and DFW.]
Though someone is going to have to explain to me how some of this (not all of it, not by a long stretch, but some) is a whole lot different than what a lot of news outlets do. Paying for sources, investigating personal e-mails, investigating family....who the hell do they think they're covering, Sarah Palin???
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Post by HoyaNyr320 on Jul 14, 2011 15:04:14 GMT -5
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Post by HoyaLawya on Jul 16, 2011 12:52:48 GMT -5
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 16, 2011 13:46:07 GMT -5
AdWeek's story on the editor at the Guardian who never gave up on the NOTW story, and the troubles which await his own paper if it does not expand...perhaps to the US. www.adweek.com/news/press/ben-bradlee-phone-hacking-133409AdWeek editor Michael Wolff has been on top of this story, having written a book on Murdoch and largely predicting the order of resignations and saying that the mea culpa ads is the result of a campaign from PR firm Edelman (also noted by the Guardian). Wolff suggests the public meeting before the MP's will not go well, and if not, James Murdoch is the next shoe to drop. |
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Post by HoyaLawya on Jul 16, 2011 13:46:45 GMT -5
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 19, 2011 11:10:06 GMT -5
A pie in the face? Really? Is this story seriously off the rails? twitter.com/#!/JonnieMarbles/status/93347191191646210 |
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 19, 2011 13:26:35 GMT -5
A pie in the face? Really? Is this story seriously off the rails? twitter.com/#!/JonnieMarbles/status/93347191191646210 Not quite as bad as shoes being thrown at the President. |
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