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Post by kchoya on Feb 18, 2011 20:21:11 GMT -5
Where's our resident ponficiator? Usually he's all over this board, quick to point out how one or two signs at a Tea Party rally represent the entire Republican party. Are we going to see a 2,000 missive on these signs: cnsnews.com/news/article/wis-democratic-party-condemns-hate-filleHave the democrats learned nothing after Gabby Giffords? Guess we can't blame Sarah Palin for these cross-hairs.
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Post by HoyaNyr320 on Feb 19, 2011 7:39:34 GMT -5
Where's our resident ponficiator? Usually he's all over this board, quick to point out how one or two signs at a Tea Party rally represent the entire Republican party. Are we going to see a 2,000 missive on these signs: cnsnews.com/news/article/wis-democratic-party-condemns-hate-filleHave the democrats learned nothing after Gabby Giffords? Guess we can't blame Sarah Palin for these cross-hairs. Its wrong when left-leaning activists do it and its wrong when right-leaning activists do it. However, the key line in your newscilp is Democratic Party of Wisconsin Chairman Mike Tate is condemning signs . I'm still waiting for Republican leaders to condemn anything that the Tea Party has done that is offensive. Also, Palin never admitted that her crosshairs ad went a little too far... she just pulled it from her site after the shooting.
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Post by EasyEd on Feb 19, 2011 10:40:36 GMT -5
Did President Obama condemn the signs? Did Senator Reid? Did VP Biden? Nancy Pelosi? I'm still waiting for Democratic leaders to condemn anything the current protestors have done that is offensive.
Of course, it's necessary to draw Sarah Palin, the Superstar, into this on a completely different issue.
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Post by ksf42001 on Feb 19, 2011 11:08:05 GMT -5
Did President Obama condemn the signs? Did Senator Reid? Did VP Biden? Nancy Pelosi? I'm still waiting for Democratic leaders to condemn anything the current protestors have done that is offensive. Of course, it's necessary to draw Sarah Palin, the Superstar, into this on a completely different issue. So almost no republicans (i'm sure there were a few) condemning offensive outlier signs over the past 2 years = no democrats (except the party head of the actual state in question) mentioned offensive outlier signs over the past two days? Also, I believe it was kc who first mentioned Palin in this thread...
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Post by Boz on Feb 19, 2011 12:06:54 GMT -5
Boz Doctrine says "Protesters are idiots. Pretty much always."
Boz says "These protesters in particular are idiots because what they are doing is a fireable offense. And Boz kinda' hopes they do get fired."
And that is my one and only time I will ever refer to myself in the third person. It was kinda' fun. I feel like Deion Sanders.
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Post by FormerHoya on Feb 19, 2011 12:43:24 GMT -5
Boz Doctrine says "Protesters are idiots. Pretty much always." Boz says "These protesters in particular are idiots because what they are doing is a fireable offense. And Boz kinda' hopes they do get fired." And that is my one and only time I will ever refer to myself in the third person. It was kinda' fun. I feel like Deion Sanders. You sound like bronxie.
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Post by Boz on Feb 19, 2011 12:50:52 GMT -5
Just wanted to try it out once. ;D
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Post by The Stig on Feb 19, 2011 17:25:56 GMT -5
The Stig agrees that the Boz Doctrine applies nicely in this case.
While The Stig thinks that Scott Walker is a pigheaded idiot who is just trying to engage in union busting, The Stig thinks the tactics of the state senate Dems are a bit ridiculous, to put it nicely.
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Post by SirSaxa on Feb 19, 2011 17:43:55 GMT -5
Boz Doctrine says "Protesters are idiots. Pretty much always." The Egyptian nation disagrees, as do the Tunisians, and Iranians. And the Chinese in Tianamen Square. Not to mention the Tea Party -- no, not today's faux " Tea Party", the REAL one... in that bastion of liberal thinking... Massachusetts... you know, the one of many protest steps by the original Anti-Colonialists led to the creation of this country. Then there were the anti-war protesters in the '60's and '70s, Rosa Parks, MLK and the rest who protested for Civil Rights. There were the Anti-Slavery protesters. And the Women's Suffrage protesters. Sir Saxa's Doctrine says this is America where protesting is a right if not an obligation, and even idiots are allowed to protest... or make thoughtless, idiotic posts.
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Post by Boz on Feb 19, 2011 17:58:13 GMT -5
1. Remove pants.
2. Un-bunch panties.
3. Breathe deeply.
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Post by TC on Feb 19, 2011 18:08:35 GMT -5
While The Stig thinks that Scott Walker is a pigheaded idiot who is just trying to engage in union busting, The Stig thinks the tactics of the state senate Dems are a bit ridiculous, to put it nicely. What is the difference between what they are doing and the filibuster? The differences seem merely procedural to me, and it doesn't seem like they are abusing it on everyday matters.
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Post by The Stig on Feb 19, 2011 19:03:31 GMT -5
The Stig also was also disgusted with the Republicans' Party of No tactics over the past 2 years.
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Post by Boz on Feb 22, 2011 15:04:29 GMT -5
The Stig also was also disgusted with the Republicans' Party of No tactics over the past 2 years. Something tells me that being the party of "No" isn't going to hurt Republicans nearly as much as Democrats' currently being the Monty Python party of "Run Away!!!!!" First Wisconsin and now Indiana.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Feb 22, 2011 16:12:59 GMT -5
You may want to check out the polls on that, Boz. This WI Governor seems to have taken a do-gooder idea a little too far if early polls are to be believed.
I would be more sympathetic if Senate Republicans had not shown effectively more disdain for getting things done. They might as well have been with their financiers in Guam for the last 3 years.
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Post by Boz on Feb 22, 2011 16:49:28 GMT -5
Hmmm, Democrats in WI and IN might prefer this comparison.
As it appropriately depicts the Republicans as the vicious, racist, fascist oppressors that they truly are. (And, of course, the voters are just faceless, mindless dupes who get fooled by them).
As for polls, as far as I can tell, Scott Walker is still ahead on this issue.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Feb 22, 2011 17:43:36 GMT -5
I have more sympathy for folks who call out their own when such statements are made. Should the comparisons be made, absolutely not, but I certainly don't feel sorry for the targets on the right, particularly in light of some of the remarks in this thread.
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Post by Boz on Feb 22, 2011 19:06:31 GMT -5
I have more sympathy for folks who call out their own when such statements are made. Should the comparisons be made, absolutely not, but I certainly don't feel sorry for the targets on the right, particularly in light of some of the remarks in this thread. I'm not quite clear on who you are responding to. What are the such statements to which you refer? Was that earlier in the thread? For my own part, I think I have a pretty good record in general of calling out my own on this board....when it is appropriate. Or at least taking them with a grain of salt until they back up what they say. Others may disagree that. That's cool. I don't agree with the general liberal depiction of what is going on in Wisconsin (I know, you're shocked, right?), but do I think there is room for Walker to give a little? Sure, I think so. On the other hand, going into hiding is probably the most ridiculous tactic I have seen in quite some time. (I don't know enough about the Indiana situation to comment on that, but you'd have a hard time convincing me of any proposal which justifies fleeing to Illinois). Also, I don't ever agree with Greg Sargent. Ever. Just sayin'.
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 22, 2011 20:12:10 GMT -5
I have more sympathy for folks who call out their own when such statements are made. Should the comparisons be made, absolutely not, but I certainly don't feel sorry for the targets on the right, particularly in light of some of the remarks in this thread. I'm not quite clear on who you are responding to. What are the such statements to which you refer? Was that earlier in the thread? For my own part, I think I have a pretty good record in general of calling out my own on this board....when it is appropriate. Or at least taking them with a grain of salt until they back up what they say. Others may disagree that. That's cool. I don't agree with the general liberal depiction of what is going on in Wisconsin (I know, you're shocked, right?), but do I think there is room for Walker to give a little? Sure, I think so. On the other hand, going into hiding is probably the most ridiculous tactic I have seen in quite some time. (I don't know enough about the Indiana situation to comment on that, but you'd have a hard time convincing me of any proposal which justifies fleeing to Illinois). Also, I don't ever agree with Greg Sargent. Ever. Just sayin'. From Indiana? I'm constantly shocked more people don't flee from Indiana to Illinois (and by Illinois, I of course mean Chicago).
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Post by Boz on Feb 22, 2011 20:43:02 GMT -5
Nice.
I flee to Chicago as often as I can. ;D
(not this time of year though; F that nonsense)
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Feb 23, 2011 0:11:54 GMT -5
I have more sympathy for folks who call out their own when such statements are made. Should the comparisons be made, absolutely not, but I certainly don't feel sorry for the targets on the right, particularly in light of some of the remarks in this thread. I'm not quite clear on who you are responding to. What are the such statements to which you refer? Was that earlier in the thread? For my own part, I think I have a pretty good record in general of calling out my own on this board....when it is appropriate. Or at least taking them with a grain of salt until they back up what they say. Others may disagree that. That's cool. I don't agree with the general liberal depiction of what is going on in Wisconsin (I know, you're shocked, right?), but do I think there is room for Walker to give a little? Sure, I think so. On the other hand, going into hiding is probably the most ridiculous tactic I have seen in quite some time. (I don't know enough about the Indiana situation to comment on that, but you'd have a hard time convincing me of any proposal which justifies fleeing to Illinois). Also, I don't ever agree with Greg Sargent. Ever. Just sayin'. I think your personal to-do list of 3 items could be taken the wrong way in a group of strangers, but that is just my opinion. Certainly there were other remarks in the thread that don't warrant repeating and don't need further discussion. I'll say no more since Republicans are entitled to deference. You won an election after all and are doing great things. ;D
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