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Post by bronxhoya87 on Jan 5, 2011 1:54:13 GMT -5
He is not going to change his style so he needs to recruit better. Bottom line. The reason we can lose to anyone at anytime is because our team is not very talented.
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Post by seaweed on Jan 5, 2011 9:23:58 GMT -5
nobody cares what your level of faith in III is, or how you evaluate our level of content aside from some comedic enjoyment. leave, get a room, bring back the ignore button, something other than this constant, endless stream of negativity please.
and fyi, it is a little strange that the two most vocal bashers of a college team didn't even go to the school. i guess you do learn something at GU;-)
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Post by gtowndynasty on Jan 5, 2011 10:22:45 GMT -5
nobody cares what your level of faith in III is, or how you evaluate our level of content aside from some comedic enjoyment. leave, get a room, bring back the ignore button, something other than this constant, endless stream of negativity please. and fyi, it is a little strange that the two most vocal bashers of a college team didn't even go to the school. i guess you do learn something at GU;-) EXECELLENT. Look bro-we get it. You are not fond of the coach. You dont like the system. You dont think the players are talented. Find another team to root for. It sounds like you dont like anything about the Hoyas and havent in a long while. Thats fine. Stop inundating the board with your repetitive rants. How many times/ways can one convey the same message?? |
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 5, 2011 10:46:01 GMT -5
nobody cares what your level of faith in III is, or how you evaluate our level of content aside from some comedic enjoyment. leave, get a room, bring back the ignore button, something other than this constant, endless stream of negativity please. and fyi, it is a little strange that the two most vocal bashers of a college team didn't even go to the school. i guess you do learn something at GU;-) EXECELLENT. Look bro-we get it. You are not fond of the coach. You dont like the system. You dont think the players are talented. Find another team to root for. It sounds like you dont like anything about the Hoyas and havent in a long while. Thats fine. Stop inundating the board with your repetitive rants. How many times/ways can one convey the same message?? Be prepared for a sarcastic response telling you that you don't know anything about basketball. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 5, 2011 11:16:40 GMT -5
Bronxie be loading up!
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Post by RDF on Jan 5, 2011 11:23:21 GMT -5
nobody cares what your level of faith in III is, or how you evaluate our level of content aside from some comedic enjoyment. leave, get a room, bring back the ignore button, something other than this constant, endless stream of negativity please. and fyi, it is a little strange that the two most vocal bashers of a college team didn't even go to the school. i guess you do learn something at GU;-) Seaweed, you emerge to really debate this? BTW--if you would like a time frame for Jason Clark's defensive breakdown--I present you the St. John's game. I ask you this GENTLEmen: Present your case in a manner that proves my analysis is wrong? If you do, I'm more then happy to admit you're correct and will stop posting. Please feel free. I'm more then happy to hear what about what I've said is wrong. I've provided facts--the numbers support my stance, the other fans who don't want to agree with me are starting to see it--and I've been saying this for 3 years now. If it was wrong--then you wouldn't need to get so upset about it--but you know like I do--that I'm correct. Problem is--you guys can't figure out that I want this program to win as bad as you do. We just see the game differently. I find anyone who refuses do things that work/continues to do things that do not--to be stubborn/bullheaded but when it's gone on for 3 seasons now--it's going to another level--and it is what it is. Now assessing what someone is doing/who they are as a person are 2 different things. This is a Georgetown basketball board--not a personal evaluation. I think III is a great representative of the school, think he's done great job of running things in a clean way, has nice guys on the team, etc.....I compliment him numerous times when he outcoaches someone/improves the team (was on here all the time complimenting his moves in non conference) but in the Big East--he's reverted to the stuff that has failed him/program since 2009. Why? Well please tell us because I've mentioned my stance. Ed--you complimented the analysis I posted the other night, now you disagree because you like that some fans who have no answers--but want them (Seaweed, I'll breakdown Jason Clark ala the Zapruder Film if you like--but it's something that 90% of this board seems to understand that you don't--he's a poor defensive player) have gone on the warpath. Hate me all you like--but this coach has failed his team in the past 3 games. They are lucky to be 1-2 right now. He has tapes of not just the Hoyas--but opponents--he controls what happens/what doesn't-so as angry as you/I get--it all comes down to what he does/how he coaches. Believe me--I hope there is a time you/others who can't stand my viewpoint can taunt me, etc....because I want this team to WIN--but I just feel that wanting them to win--and doing the things necessary to win are not happening. I defended the players after SJU loss. They were failed by the coach. If you cannot adapt to what guys can/cant do--you are a failing as a coach/leader. It's just being honest. Now if you don't like how I'm saying it--fine--understand but it doesn't make the points of discussion wrong. |
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Jan 5, 2011 11:31:42 GMT -5
Bronxie finds it interesting that he creates a thread and people under their own volition enter then bash Bronxie. No one begged for your comment. If you do not like what I say do not enter the thread. My name is clearly pegged as thread starter.
BTW.....The what school did you go to comments are weak. I loved Gtown basketball before I knew where in hades the school was located. That makes me a real true blue fan. I have been cheering for these guys for almost 30 years. Bronxie is true blue.
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Post by RDF on Jan 5, 2011 11:36:09 GMT -5
nobody cares what your level of faith in III is, or how you evaluate our level of content aside from some comedic enjoyment. leave, get a room, bring back the ignore button, something other than this constant, endless stream of negativity please. and fyi, it is a little strange that the two most vocal bashers of a college team didn't even go to the school. i guess you do learn something at GU;-) EXECELLENT. Look bro-we get it. You are not fond of the coach. You dont like the system. You dont think the players are talented. Find another team to root for. It sounds like you dont like anything about the Hoyas and havent in a long while. Thats fine. Stop inundating the board with your repetitive rants. How many times/ways can one convey the same message?? Wrong on so many levels and if you want to go after someone--at least take the time to get things right. I'm fond of the coach. Just want him to do his job/hold him to a standard. Standard of a Head Coach--giving a team the best chance to win games. That means adapting/changing or recruiting to your system. Recruiting, he's doing that--and I've complimented him repeatedly. This team--he's failed to see what works/what doesn't-and it's a trend that has continued. It's a sign of your ability as a coach when you can only do one thing/cannot succeed doing it another way. So he's at least corrected one thing--he's not recruiting the type of player he has now--he's going back to what worked for him--good move. How that helps this group? It doesn't. I like the system--like it a lot. I've stated on here for years that you cannot run small lineup in the system. Was told 2 years ago to "wait/can't judge it". Told last year it was "lack of depth". Well what is it this year? Small Ball is FAIL in this system and small ball without athleticism if fail in the Big East. What's III's record in Big East during Small Ball Era? What was it before? ;D at fact some of you guys don't get the point--I repeat my message as many times as the Head Coach repeatedly does the same things that don't work. You all get upset/angry because my message is "repetitive". Well now you know how I/others who are frustrated watching how the failure of adjustments feel. Same thing--only my words don't hurt nearly as much as watching the coach fail his players by refusing to do things that would give them a better opportunity to play their best. *--you don't need to go to Georgetown or be a rocket scientist to discuss basketball/athletics. Fan expectations shouldn't be to hammer a guy/team over a loss--but anyone in any field who repeatedly does something that doesn't work/fails and continues it--is subject to criticism. Longer it doesn't change-the frustration rises and the criticism grows. It's called reality--crappy as it is. |
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Post by GUJook97 on Jan 5, 2011 11:36:28 GMT -5
Meh, I dont agree with a lot of RDF's points, but his analysis is completely reasonable and thoughtful. Keep it on the level, fellas.
I've been saying for years, especially this year, but I truly believe we are the type of team that should play press defense. It makes perfect sense to me for all the reasons stated. It worked very well against a solid Utah State team, and the irony is, that was one of the few OOC opponents that resembled a BE team. A press not only hides defensive weakness, it forces refs to call games differently. We've all mentioned it, but I would love to see a stat about the % of our defensive percentages that include a foul. When you sit back in half court defense, and you are not quick or strong enough, possessions will end in fouls. For the life of me, i cant understand why we dont press more.
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Post by GUJook97 on Jan 5, 2011 11:38:03 GMT -5
I think the primary talent deficiency on D is height. I don't think anyone disagrees that we've had a couple of years where we've missed that. Hopefully the slew of big men coming in helps to fix that. As for perimeter D -- well, we had much better D with Jon Wallace out -- so I don't think it's all tools here. We had much better defenses with slower guys. Reality is, most perimeter defenders can't keep a guy in front of them. It's about help and people in the middle. Agreed 100%. We've beaten it to death but I have no idea why we continue to play defense like we have Roy Hibbert. It's absolutely baffling. We started to press vs Utah St and I was excited at the prospect of us getting in some passing lanes and turning our opponents over. Instead we went right back to the same nonsense. Retreat to as deep into the halfcourt as possible, don't even think about forcing a turnover, and then play D for 30 seconds until our opponent scores over our undersized frontcourt. didnt even see this when I wrote mine, but I agree totally. |
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Jan 5, 2011 11:42:01 GMT -5
nobody cares what your level of faith in III is, or how you evaluate our level of content aside from some comedic enjoyment. leave, get a room, bring back the ignore button, something other than this constant, endless stream of negativity please. and fyi, it is a little strange that the two most vocal bashers of a college team didn't even go to the school. i guess you do learn something at GU;-) ? Is this like the phrase foolish mortals say when you dare criticize an aspect of American life.....if you do not like it get out. News for you buddy boy Bronxie calls it the way he sees it. If you do not approve I cant say I care to be honest with you. Put old Bronxie on ignore. |
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Post by RDF on Jan 5, 2011 11:44:42 GMT -5
Meh, I dont agree with a lot of RDF's points, but his analysis is completely reasonable and thoughtful. Keep it on the level, fellas. I've been saying for years, especially this year, but I truly believe we are the type of team that should play press defense. It makes perfect sense to me for all the reasons stated. It worked very well against a solid Utah State team, and the irony is, that was one of the few OOC opponents that resembled a BE team. A press not only hides defensive weakness, it forces refs to call games differently. We've all mentioned it, but I would love to see a stat about the % of our defensive percentages that include a foul. When you sit back in half court defense, and you are not quick or strong enough, possessions will end in fouls. For the life of me, i cant understand why we dont press more. Excellent point about press--and it also for whatever reason--gets the team more aggressive/active-which is something III hasn't been able to get out of them consistently in halfcourt defensive sets. The energy gets going and even if they give up a hoop--they often are able to get ball in quick/push ball into frontcourt and get into early offense. III teams get into a lull where they walk the ball up the court in a tight game--they need to get into frontcourt faster--so they can make teams defend longer--or get a quick/easy look-which has resulted in numerous easy hoops. The pressure with this group not only helps them on defense-it helps their offense. |
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Jan 5, 2011 11:47:30 GMT -5
Meh, I dont agree with a lot of RDF's points, but his analysis is completely reasonable and thoughtful. Keep it on the level, fellas. I've been saying for years, especially this year, but I truly believe we are the type of team that should play press defense. It makes perfect sense to me for all the reasons stated. It worked very well against a solid Utah State team, and the irony is, that was one of the few OOC opponents that resembled a BE team. A press not only hides defensive weakness, it forces refs to call games differently. We've all mentioned it, but I would love to see a stat about the % of our defensive percentages that include a foul. When you sit back in half court defense, and you are not quick or strong enough, possessions will end in fouls. For the life of me, i cant understand why we dont press more. Not only the 3/4 court press but a full court press and trap. We need to score off of our defense more. For the love of Horus we never trap in the half court when the opponents are close to the sidelines. JTIII gets into conference and starts coaching scared. Vee gets three minutes, Tony Starks does not play? |
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Jan 5, 2011 11:48:34 GMT -5
Meh, I dont agree with a lot of RDF's points, but his analysis is completely reasonable and thoughtful. Keep it on the level, fellas. I've been saying for years, especially this year, but I truly believe we are the type of team that should play press defense. It makes perfect sense to me for all the reasons stated. It worked very well against a solid Utah State team, and the irony is, that was one of the few OOC opponents that resembled a BE team. A press not only hides defensive weakness, it forces refs to call games differently. We've all mentioned it, but I would love to see a stat about the % of our defensive percentages that include a foul. When you sit back in half court defense, and you are not quick or strong enough, possessions will end in fouls. For the life of me, i cant understand why we dont press more. Excellent point about press--and it also for whatever reason--gets the team more aggressive/active-which is something III hasn't been able to get out of them consistently in halfcourt defensive sets. The energy gets going and even if they give up a hoop--they often are able to get ball in quick/push ball into frontcourt and get into early offense. III teams get into a lull where they walk the ball up the court in a tight game--they need to get into frontcourt faster--so they can make teams defend longer--or get a quick/easy look-which has resulted in numerous easy hoops. The pressure with this group not only helps them on defense-it helps their offense. True indeed God! |
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Post by NCHoya on Jan 5, 2011 11:56:22 GMT -5
I am as much a JT3 cheerleader as the next Hoya, but in this specific case I think RDF is correct. The loss the other night was on JT3. I will not put the ND loss on him, but against SJU there were things he could have done to put the players in better position to win. First, the last defensive set was awful with JC gaurding Hardy for a second time. Two, he refused to use Vee when in his 3 minutes of PT proved he could generate offense. Three, he must have seen how SJU was slowing the game down intentionally and not turning the ball over, yet did not employ a legitimate press to help generate turnovers or speed the game up with the starting SJU point guard out, might I add. So I fully understand why JT3 is being critiqued.
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Post by seaweed on Jan 5, 2011 11:57:47 GMT -5
I'll breakdown Jason Clark ala the Zapruder Film if you like--but it's something that 90% of this board seems to understand that you don't--he's a poor defensive player Right, that is why he consistently draws opponent's #1 offensive threat as his cover. Oh, I forgot, that is because III is stupid. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 5, 2011 12:03:53 GMT -5
I love Markel's potential. I have no idea why anyone thinks he's a better option right now than who's out there.
Vee's a different story.
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Post by guru on Jan 5, 2011 12:04:42 GMT -5
nobody cares what your level of faith in III is, or how you evaluate our level of content aside from some comedic enjoyment. leave, get a room, bring back the ignore button, something other than this constant, endless stream of negativity please. and fyi, it is a little strange that the two most vocal bashers of a college team didn't even go to the school. i guess you do learn something at GU;-) Seaweed, you emerge to really debate this? BTW--if you would like a time frame for Jason Clark's defensive breakdown--I present you the St. John's game. I ask you this GENTLEmen: Present your case in a manner that proves my analysis is wrong? If you do, I'm more then happy to admit you're correct and will stop posting. Please feel free. I'm more then happy to hear what about what I've said is wrong. I've provided facts--the numbers support my stance, the other fans who don't want to agree with me are starting to see it--and I've been saying this for 3 years now. If it was wrong--then you wouldn't need to get so upset about it--but you know like I do--that I'm correct. Problem is--you guys can't figure out that I want this program to win as bad as you do. We just see the game differently. I find anyone who refuses do things that work/continues to do things that do not--to be stubborn/bullheaded but when it's gone on for 3 seasons now--it's going to another level--and it is what it is. Now assessing what someone is doing/who they are as a person are 2 different things. This is a Georgetown basketball board--not a personal evaluation. I think III is a great representative of the school, think he's done great job of running things in a clean way, has nice guys on the team, etc.....I compliment him numerous times when he outcoaches someone/improves the team (was on here all the time complimenting his moves in non conference) but in the Big East--he's reverted to the stuff that has failed him/program since 2009. Why? Well please tell us because I've mentioned my stance. Ed--you complimented the analysis I posted the other night, now you disagree because you like that some fans who have no answers--but want them (Seaweed, I'll breakdown Jason Clark ala the Zapruder Film if you like--but it's something that 90% of this board seems to understand that you don't--he's a poor defensive player) have gone on the warpath. Hate me all you like--but this coach has failed his team in the past 3 games. They are lucky to be 1-2 right now. He has tapes of not just the Hoyas--but opponents--he controls what happens/what doesn't-so as angry as you/I get--it all comes down to what he does/how he coaches. Believe me--I hope there is a time you/others who can't stand my viewpoint can taunt me, etc....because I want this team to WIN--but I just feel that wanting them to win--and doing the things necessary to win are not happening. I defended the players after SJU loss. They were failed by the coach. If you cannot adapt to what guys can/cant do--you are a failing as a coach/leader. It's just being honest. Now if you don't like how I'm saying it--fine--understand but it doesn't make the points of discussion wrong. The funniest part about your posts is that you really think you "see the game differently" than others. Newsflash, Mr. Naismith - pretty much all your posts are variations on "We need to play HARDER", "We need to play BETTER", "The KIDS need to WANT it", "The coach needs to make DIFFERENT decisions," and then we will "WIN/BE HAPPY." You don't see the game any differently. You're pointing out things that pretty much everyone here sees and usually acknowledges. You just feel the need to post constantly and at great length all the damn time. You're an aggressive message board bully who feels the need to taunt those who dare disagree with you with childish rants about juice boxes and milkshakes. Five years ago, it was passably funny. Now it's just kind of sad. Oh, and let it never be forgotten that during the 2006-2007 season you declared after the Duke loss that the team would not make the NCAA Tournament - of course you caveated that dumb statement with your usual assortment of "unless they play BETTER, unless they play HARDER, unless the coach starts RETURNING MY STALKERISH EMAILS" - but still. You saw the game "differently" back then too, and you were wrong. LOUD wrong. |
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Post by RDF on Jan 5, 2011 12:07:33 GMT -5
I'll breakdown Jason Clark ala the Zapruder Film if you like--but it's something that 90% of this board seems to understand that you don't--he's a poor defensive player Right, that is why he consistently draws opponent's #1 offensive threat as his cover. Oh, I forgot, that is because III is stupid. It doesn't matter who he draws--is he doing the job successfully? So if III put you on the team's best opponent-we're supposed to applaud it because the Head Coach gave you the assignment? How do you not understand why the coach is getting the criticism? You said you were at the game--did you not see Clark getting ABUSED by Hardy? How sad is it that Lavin mentioned "we wanted to get ball to Hardy and let him go to work" as his last play--and III's response is to play man/have Clark push up/crowd Hardy and give him easy drive--which resulted in forcing Vaughn to help--leave wide open tip. Will you at least admit III was outcoached in that situation?  Sometimes guys get assignments because they are better then other poor options. Defensively--that sums up this group. My issue--like others--why doesn't he at least use his bench in a manner that creates roles? For instance--he did this with Rivers. Jeremiah wasn't one of his best players--but when it came time to get a stop--he'd put him out there. Why isn't that happening now? His best on ball defender in the backcourt is Vee Sanford. Sanford provides length and more importantly an understanding of how to play defense. He doesn't crowd guys who will take him off the dribble, he gives space, he doesn't lay off shooters--he crowds them. He has good technique--which means good balance and moves his feet well. He also shades-which allows him to recover well--Jason came right at Hardy--which is awful--he was off balance and minute Hardy went left--Jason's feet were screwed up/off balance. The comment you just made at least makes more sense to why you are so frustrated with me. If you think someone is good just because a coach uses him a certain way--then you don't get it. Why in the hell do you think I'm criticizing the coach? It's NOT WORKING!  |
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Post by RDF on Jan 5, 2011 12:22:05 GMT -5
Seaweed, you emerge to really debate this? BTW--if you would like a time frame for Jason Clark's defensive breakdown--I present you the St. John's game. I ask you this GENTLEmen: Present your case in a manner that proves my analysis is wrong? If you do, I'm more then happy to admit you're correct and will stop posting. Please feel free. I'm more then happy to hear what about what I've said is wrong. I've provided facts--the numbers support my stance, the other fans who don't want to agree with me are starting to see it--and I've been saying this for 3 years now. If it was wrong--then you wouldn't need to get so upset about it--but you know like I do--that I'm correct. Problem is--you guys can't figure out that I want this program to win as bad as you do. We just see the game differently. I find anyone who refuses do things that work/continues to do things that do not--to be stubborn/bullheaded but when it's gone on for 3 seasons now--it's going to another level--and it is what it is. Now assessing what someone is doing/who they are as a person are 2 different things. This is a Georgetown basketball board--not a personal evaluation. I think III is a great representative of the school, think he's done great job of running things in a clean way, has nice guys on the team, etc.....I compliment him numerous times when he outcoaches someone/improves the team (was on here all the time complimenting his moves in non conference) but in the Big East--he's reverted to the stuff that has failed him/program since 2009. Why? Well please tell us because I've mentioned my stance. Ed--you complimented the analysis I posted the other night, now you disagree because you like that some fans who have no answers--but want them (Seaweed, I'll breakdown Jason Clark ala the Zapruder Film if you like--but it's something that 90% of this board seems to understand that you don't--he's a poor defensive player) have gone on the warpath. Hate me all you like--but this coach has failed his team in the past 3 games. They are lucky to be 1-2 right now. He has tapes of not just the Hoyas--but opponents--he controls what happens/what doesn't-so as angry as you/I get--it all comes down to what he does/how he coaches. Believe me--I hope there is a time you/others who can't stand my viewpoint can taunt me, etc....because I want this team to WIN--but I just feel that wanting them to win--and doing the things necessary to win are not happening. I defended the players after SJU loss. They were failed by the coach. If you cannot adapt to what guys can/cant do--you are a failing as a coach/leader. It's just being honest. Now if you don't like how I'm saying it--fine--understand but it doesn't make the points of discussion wrong. The funniest part about your posts is that you really think you "see the game differently" than others. Newsflash, Mr. Naismith - pretty much all your posts are variations on "We need to play HARDER", "We need to play BETTER", "The KIDS need to WANT it", "The coach needs to make DIFFERENT decisions," and then we will "WIN/BE HAPPY." You don't see the game any differently. You're pointing out things that pretty much everyone here sees and usually acknowledges. You just feel the need to post constantly and at great length all the damn time. You're an aggressive message board bully who feels the need to taunt those who dare disagree with you with childish rants about juice boxes and milkshakes. Five years ago, it was passably funny. Now it's just kind of sad. Oh, and let it never be forgotten that during the 2006-2007 season you declared after the Duke loss that the team would not make the NCAA Tournament - of course you caveated that dumb statement with your usual assortment of "unless they play BETTER, unless they play HARDER, unless the coach starts RETURNING MY STALKERISH EMAILS" - but still. You saw the game "differently" back then too, and you were wrong. LOUD wrong. I've been on here since this board's inception--back to the old board. There are several people who can support that I've had my moments-but basketball wise--I also know what I'm talking about. Duke game-hell that supported my claim. The team was playing mechanical. They were even worse against Nova at home that year--and if they played like that-they'd have suffered same fate as the '09 team did--it's not rocket science--things need to change when you are playing too mechanical/not reacting on the court. I've stated numerous basketball reasons--that some not many don't understand. For instance-I was talking about playing with more tempo/pace--and got criticized for "not liking the system" years ago. My point was--you have to push ball into frontcourt to get into offensive sets earlier. Not to be a run/gun team. I've stated the type of player that needs to be recruited if you are going to run this system--and low and behold--look at the results? How's small ball within III's system worked? Playing hard--been an issue at times. Brought it up--guilty. Playing with some urgency--been an issue--brought it up. Lack of using bench--been an issue/bring it up. I'll also admit when I'm wrong/or commend the players/team for playing well. Anyone with a history here--like me or not--will vouch for that. I'll eat crow, but I've not been a smart ass about anything after this last game. I'm talking basketball--and provided numerous things. Let's put it this way--if I'm "tiresome"--then why are the things I've stated about this particular group/approach/use still proving to be correct 3 years later? If I was wrong--everyone would ignore me--because there wouldn't be any reason to respond. Wanting me to be wrong/being wrong are two different things. If I am--fire away and I'll be first to start a thread/admit I was wrong. Being critical isn't being a "bad" fan. It's sharing frustration on a messageboard outlet to discuss the team. If anyone is a Hoya fan-they want them to win. I'd rather be wrong/see team win/succeed then watch a game and see the same things discussed here play out in another painful loss. If that is "tiresome"--don't read it. My sarcasm/jokes have time/place--this crap isn't something I find funny. Losing because of an inability/refusal to change is painful/miserable. Thinking it will go away because of "positive talk" is laughable. Things get corrected when negative aspects are addressed and corrected. Not because a poster quits posting or posts how you like/want them to. If you want negative posts to stop--then hope III does his job better. Simple solution. |
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