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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 6, 2010 19:50:48 GMT -5
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Post by ksf42001 on Oct 6, 2010 19:58:03 GMT -5
I'm just happy the Rangers doubled their franchise playoff win total today...
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Post by RDF on Oct 7, 2010 0:48:35 GMT -5
That was some awesome pitching by Halladay and Lee (just think if the Phillies kept Lee , and even with his departure, I think they are the clear cut favorite in Playoffs--not just NL) and good games overall. Really think the Twins are going to take the series to 5 and have really good shot of winning--liked the fight they showed everytime they got behind to come right back/make it a game and Yankees set up group is shaky--as witnessed tonight. Greg Golson with great catch--and while it was a missed call-the fake acting of Jeter/Posada brought on that karma. Posada impersonates a catcher every game out there too--so nobody should be surprised by his acting.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Oct 7, 2010 11:26:32 GMT -5
The game by Halladay allows me to reminisce about the WS game 54 years ago this week, as my Mom and I watched with amazement at Yankee Stadium as Don Larsen finished his perfect game. 97 pitches, homerun by Mickey Mantle, a couple of great fielding plays, what more could a 12 year old Yankee fan want. (My Dad was supposed to take me that day, but he had a meeting that he couldn't get out of ).
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Post by kchoya on Oct 7, 2010 14:39:40 GMT -5
That was some awesome pitching by Halladay and Lee (just think if the Phillies kept Lee , and even with his departure, I think they are the clear cut favorite in Playoffs--not just NL) and good games overall. Really think the Twins are going to take the series to 5 and have really good shot of winning--liked the fight they showed everytime they got behind to come right back/make it a game and Yankees set up group is shaky--as witnessed tonight. Greg Golson with great catch--and while it was a missed call-the fake acting of Jeter/Posada brought on that karma. Posada impersonates a catcher every game out there too--so nobody should be surprised by his acting. That A Fraud crap last night reminded me of his acting job in the 2004 ALCS when he slapped the ball out of Arroyo's mitt and tried to act like it was part of his natural running motion. What a tool. He pulled the same thing last night with the "look, there's no grass mark on the ball" whining. Alex, you're no Donn Clendenon.
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Post by SirSaxa on Oct 7, 2010 16:00:43 GMT -5
That A Fraud crap last night reminded me of his acting job in the 2004 ALCS when he slapped the ball out of Arroyo's mitt and tried to act like it was part of his natural running motion. What a tool. He pulled the same thing last night with the "look, there's no grass mark on the ball" whining. Except last night, there were no grass stains and replay clearly showed that Golson DID make the catch.
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Post by Elvado on Oct 7, 2010 16:02:59 GMT -5
That was some awesome pitching by Halladay and Lee (just think if the Phillies kept Lee , and even with his departure, I think they are the clear cut favorite in Playoffs--not just NL) and good games overall. Really think the Twins are going to take the series to 5 and have really good shot of winning--liked the fight they showed everytime they got behind to come right back/make it a game and Yankees set up group is shaky--as witnessed tonight. Greg Golson with great catch--and while it was a missed call-the fake acting of Jeter/Posada brought on that karma. Posada impersonates a catcher every game out there too--so nobody should be surprised by his acting. That A Fraud crap last night reminded me of his acting job in the 2004 ALCS when he slapped the ball out of Arroyo's mitt and tried to act like it was part of his natural running motion. What a tool. He pulled the same thing last night with the "look, there's no grass mark on the ball" whining. Alex, you're no Donn Clendenon. Or Cleon Jones... or Gil Hodges...
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Post by hifigator on Oct 8, 2010 11:02:25 GMT -5
When do we bring up the need for increased use of instant replay? Of course, I think most of us would be against such use for balls and strikes, which caused most of the problems yesterday.
I wonder who might go for a very limited use -- a sort of challege system -- limited to maybe 3 per team. They could use that graphic strike box, sort of like they use the video replay in tennis to see whether the ball caught the line or not. Oh, I'm sure the umpires would "love" that.
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Post by kchoya on Oct 8, 2010 12:11:59 GMT -5
When do we bring up the need for increased use of instant replay? Of course, I think most of us would be against such use for balls and strikes, which caused most of the problems yesterday. I wonder who might go for a very limited use -- a sort of challege system -- limited to maybe 3 per team. They could use that graphic strike box, sort of like they use the video replay in tennis to see whether the ball caught the line or not. Oh, I'm sure the umpires would "love" that. Maybe when a runner is caught stealing, but is called safe and then goes on to score the only run of the game?
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Post by RDF on Oct 8, 2010 12:25:56 GMT -5
Honestly--the talk of replay is irritating for the simple fact--it's not addressing the real problem--awful umpiring. These guys are going to make some mistakes--but their often out of position (see the play last night where Posey was out--but ump is trailing and not in proper position), defiant (Bob Davidson screwing up the Marlins-Phillies game and not even looking at the ball but sticking with call after seeing it), and all replays would do is let these guys off the hook. They need to be held to a higher standard and punished for consitent bad games. Everyone has an off day--but Hunter Wendelstadt is an awful plate umpire--he always has been. He's all over the place and gets a red ass when questioned.
Why the umpires aren't graded for where they excel--for instance I believe the best plate umpires--should do every game behind the plate. If that means a crew only has 1-2 guys--they should split 7 games doing the plate. If the games are maginified in terms of importance, then it should be magnified/celebrated who does the best job.
Another issue-did the Umps work a deal with MLB that guys would all get to work Postseason on a rotation? Thought it was part of their new contract with MLB and if so--that is ridiculous. Some of these guys have no business being allowed to work, or allowed to stay in the big leagues and seeing them continue to screw up--but saved by replay and then hear "at least they got it right" is as awful as seeing the same bad NFL officials and NBA officials work when they repeatedly screw up--there is only so much a replay can do--and while some calls are bad--some of these officals/umps are so awful a game would take 5-6 hours to make up for their horrid work.
Stricter guidelines are needed in terms of punishment and enforcing rules--instead of interpretations.
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Post by Boz on Oct 8, 2010 14:42:11 GMT -5
I don't normally watch sports talk, RDF, but I had the day off today and I caught Skip Bayless and some guy in a ridiculous outfit that would make Jalen Rose blush talking about that very issue...i.e. that the umpires suck.
The other guy (not Skip Bayless) even went so far as to suggest an age limitation for referees and umpires, as eyesight and being athletic enough to always get into the proper position to make the call are things that tend to deteriorate with age.
My position is quite clear. With video and other technologies available today, human officials are practically obsolete and should be replaced with robots, lasers, sensors and cameras to make the proper calls.
No, I am not kidding.
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Post by guru on Oct 8, 2010 14:55:50 GMT -5
Honestly--the talk of replay is irritating for the simple fact--it's not addressing the real problem--awful umpiring. These guys are going to make some mistakes--but their often out of position (see the play last night where Posey was out--but ump is trailing and not in proper position), defiant (Bob Davidson screwing up the Marlins-Phillies game and not even looking at the ball but sticking with call after seeing it), and all replays would do is let these guys off the hook. They need to be held to a higher standard and punished for consitent bad games. Everyone has an off day--but Hunter Wendelstadt is an awful plate umpire--he always has been. He's all over the place and gets a red ass when questioned. Why the umpires aren't graded for where they excel--for instance I believe the best plate umpires--should do every game behind the plate. If that means a crew only has 1-2 guys--they should split 7 games doing the plate. If the games are maginified in terms of importance, then it should be magnified/celebrated who does the best job. Another issue-did the Umps work a deal with MLB that guys would all get to work Postseason on a rotation? Thought it was part of their new contract with MLB and if so--that is ridiculous. Some of these guys have no business being allowed to work, or allowed to stay in the big leagues and seeing them continue to screw up--but saved by replay and then hear "at least they got it right" is as awful as seeing the same bad NFL officials and NBA officials work when they repeatedly screw up--there is only so much a replay can do--and while some calls are bad--some of these officals/umps are so awful a game would take 5-6 hours to make up for their horrid work. Stricter guidelines are needed in terms of punishment and enforcing rules--instead of interpretations. Honestly--the depth and variety of the sports subjects on which you are an expert is truly astounding. And you are so generous and long-winded with your insights. You should really shoot an infomercial. Or at least team up with hifi for a podcast.
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 8, 2010 18:06:52 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 8, 2010 19:12:16 GMT -5
Screw Bloomberg.
And I would pay to see this:
You [RDF] should really shoot an infomercial. Or at least team up with hifi for a podcast.
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Post by RDF on Oct 8, 2010 19:35:30 GMT -5
Honestly--the talk of replay is irritating for the simple fact--it's not addressing the real problem--awful umpiring. These guys are going to make some mistakes--but their often out of position (see the play last night where Posey was out--but ump is trailing and not in proper position), defiant (Bob Davidson screwing up the Marlins-Phillies game and not even looking at the ball but sticking with call after seeing it), and all replays would do is let these guys off the hook. They need to be held to a higher standard and punished for consitent bad games. Everyone has an off day--but Hunter Wendelstadt is an awful plate umpire--he always has been. He's all over the place and gets a red ass when questioned. Why the umpires aren't graded for where they excel--for instance I believe the best plate umpires--should do every game behind the plate. If that means a crew only has 1-2 guys--they should split 7 games doing the plate. If the games are maginified in terms of importance, then it should be magnified/celebrated who does the best job. Another issue-did the Umps work a deal with MLB that guys would all get to work Postseason on a rotation? Thought it was part of their new contract with MLB and if so--that is ridiculous. Some of these guys have no business being allowed to work, or allowed to stay in the big leagues and seeing them continue to screw up--but saved by replay and then hear "at least they got it right" is as awful as seeing the same bad NFL officials and NBA officials work when they repeatedly screw up--there is only so much a replay can do--and while some calls are bad--some of these officals/umps are so awful a game would take 5-6 hours to make up for their horrid work. Stricter guidelines are needed in terms of punishment and enforcing rules--instead of interpretations. Honestly--the depth and variety of the sports subjects on which you are an expert is truly astounding. And you are so generous and long-winded with your insights. You should really shoot an infomercial. Or at least team up with hifi for a podcast. Are you: Related to an umpire/official? Have Mob ties and benefit from umpires/officials? Carmelo Betancourt's cousin? Out of all the things I've ever written here, this is what you complain about--this is the topic that set you off? I'm first to admit that I can go over the edge--but of all things I've written, this is the post/topic that made you come out and start a "tickle" fight?
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 8, 2010 21:06:06 GMT -5
Honestly--the talk of replay is irritating for the simple fact--it's not addressing the real problem--awful umpiring. These guys are going to make some mistakes--but their often out of position (see the play last night where Posey was out--but ump is trailing and not in proper position). Here we go again... same guy blows a call at first in game 2.
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 10, 2010 3:13:54 GMT -5
That was some awesome pitching by Halladay and Lee (just think if the Phillies kept Lee , and even with his departure, I think they are the clear cut favorite in Playoffs--not just NL) and good games overall. Really think the Twins are going to take the series to 5 and have really good shot of winning--liked the fight they showed everytime they got behind to come right back/make it a game and Yankees set up group is shaky--as witnessed tonight. Greg Golson with great catch--and while it was a missed call-the fake acting of Jeter/Posada brought on that karma. Posada impersonates a catcher every game out there too--so nobody should be surprised by his acting. The only way the Twins would have taken this series to 5 would have been if the series were best of 9. Let's face it, the Twins are the Yankees' bitch. Next time the Twins have to play the Yankees in the playoffs, they should step down and let the White Sox play. The Sox couldn't do any worse.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 10, 2010 15:53:00 GMT -5
That was some awesome pitching by Halladay and Lee (just think if the Phillies kept Lee , and even with his departure, I think they are the clear cut favorite in Playoffs--not just NL) and good games overall. Really think the Twins are going to take the series to 5 and have really good shot of winning--liked the fight they showed everytime they got behind to come right back/make it a game and Yankees set up group is shaky--as witnessed tonight. Greg Golson with great catch--and while it was a missed call-the fake acting of Jeter/Posada brought on that karma. Posada impersonates a catcher every game out there too--so nobody should be surprised by his acting. The only way the Twins would have taken this series to 5 would have been if the series were best of 9. Let's face it, the Twins are the Yankees' bitch. Next time the Twins have to play the Yankees in the playoffs, they should step down and let the White Sox play. The Sox couldn't do any worse. Agree with sentence 1 and sentence 2. Disagree with sentence 3. I hate playoff baseball.
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 11, 2010 11:14:12 GMT -5
The only way the Twins would have taken this series to 5 would have been if the series were best of 9. Let's face it, the Twins are the Yankees' bitch. Next time the Twins have to play the Yankees in the playoffs, they should step down and let the White Sox play. The Sox couldn't do any worse. Agree with sentence 1 and sentence 2. Disagree with sentence 3. I hate playoff baseball. I wouldn't expect any different. ;D
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Post by CAHoya07 on Oct 11, 2010 12:02:26 GMT -5
Brooks Conrad, the San Francisco Giants' 10th man. ;D
Honestly feel a little bad for the guy.
Sometimes you need luck in the playoffs, and the Giants have gotten that, benefitting from a bad call in Game 1 and Brooks Conrad's blunders in Game 3. I honestly still don't know how we coughed up that lead in Game 2, but we can close out the series tonight.
I'd like for the Giants to just finish tonight instead of making it interesting like they did with the Padres series last week. Then again, there's a reason the team slogan this year is "Giants Baseball: Torture." We'll see what happens. 21-year old rookie Madison Bumgarner's first playoff start vs. Derek Lowe, a playoff veteran but pitching on short rest. Big Time Timmy Jim waits in the wings for a possible deciding Game 5, but I hope it doesn't get to that point - it would be great if we could have him well-rested to open Game 1 vs. the Phillies.
With how banged up the Braves are, and with the breaks we've gotten so far, I will be extremely disappointed if the G-Men do not take this series. However, the winner of this series faces an extremely tall task with the Phillies, who just seem to be rolling right now.
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