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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 20, 2010 22:59:56 GMT -5
So why wouldn't we want UMCP to hire him? I want Leach to turn down UMCP. It would be the perfect situation. Maryland was AWFUL before Friedgen got there. The Terps got blown out by Penn State in the 90s on a consistent basis. They were so bad, the Wikipedia page for Terps football titles 1987-2000 "Dark Years". Friedgen won 60% of his games for a school that's never been a football powerhouse, and was fired after the team finished 8-4 this year. After that finish, Friedgen deserved another year. If not, he should have been fired last year. Oh, and the kicker - he went to Maryland. They fired one of their own. That 60% figure is somewhat deceiving. Friedgen's record from 2004-2010? 43-42. To paraphrase Matt Doherty, Ralph baked a fine cake with groceries bought by the staff that preceded him. Things didn't go so well after that. 2001: 10-2, ACC Champs 2002: 11-3 2003: 10-3 2004: 5-6 2005: 5-6 2006: 9-4 2007: 6-7 2008: 8-5 2009: 2-10 2010: 8-4 Friedgen's teams were inconsistent, even in those good early years. Notre Dame blanked the Terps in the season opener in 2002, and UMD fell to Northern Illinois in DeKalb to begin 2003. And the Terps never beat Florida State when it mattered. Friedgen probably should have been fired last season. However, he decision to fire him now is not really that odd, considering that Maryland has a new athletic director. While there may be some value in making the program better than it was before, nobody gets excited about 5+ years of mediocrity, and that is what Friedgen represents. The number of empty seats in a stadium that seats only 54,000, despite a recent renovation, is evidence of that. You don't keep a football coach just because he didn't go 4-8 this year and holds a degree from the institution.
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Post by TBird41 on Dec 21, 2010 1:59:18 GMT -5
Mediocrity / being average is exciting for a bit, but when it becomes clear that a coach isn't going to take you past mediocrity, well, then its probably time to move on--if you aren't growing as a program, your program is getting worse.
The key is to hire someone like Leach that can generate excitement and maybe take a team from middle of the pack to ACC Champions and not to hire someone like Tim Brewster.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Dec 21, 2010 14:28:34 GMT -5
a terrific story from espn about the rampant oversigning that takes place in the SEC. it's about time someone shed some light on this. it's no shock the SEC has been so good. the top teams are able to cut their worst players by oversigning while the other conferences play by the rules. espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5935634
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Post by hifigator on Dec 21, 2010 16:38:47 GMT -5
I'll have to wait until I get home to watch the video, but for now, what is the "rule" that the SEC teams are supposedly breaking? They can only have 85 total scholarships on the team. There used to also be annual limits as well, but I'm pretty sure they changed that rule. In any case, the main limiting factor is overall scholarships. I'm not exactly sure how these SEC teams are supposedly cheating. I guess theoretically, if they were somehow able to convince kids to walk on at their school rather than taking a scholarship somewhere else then they could end up with more players than other schools but that isn't really cheating. Where does the "cheating" come from? Again, I can't watch the video here at work, so maybe there is some rulebreaking that I'm not thinking of, but I doubt it. It's most likely another sour grape article written by an apologist for other conferences.
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Post by Boz on Dec 21, 2010 16:54:48 GMT -5
Next time, watch the video first. Because this is the height -- or, more accurately, depth -- of sleaze.
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Post by TBird41 on Dec 21, 2010 17:08:01 GMT -5
I'll have to wait until I get home to watch the video, but for now, what is the "rule" that the SEC teams are supposedly breaking? They can only have 85 total scholarships on the team. There used to also be annual limits as well, but I'm pretty sure they changed that rule. In any case, the main limiting factor is overall scholarships. I'm not exactly sure how these SEC teams are supposedly cheating. I guess theoretically, if they were somehow able to convince kids to walk on at their school rather than taking a scholarship somewhere else then they could end up with more players than other schools but that isn't really cheating. Where does the "cheating" come from? Again, I can't watch the video here at work, so maybe there is some rulebreaking that I'm not thinking of, but I doubt it. It's most likely another sour grape article written by an apologist for other conferences. And Charlie Strong wasn't considered for the UF job because of his lack of head coaching experience
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 22, 2010 23:41:29 GMT -5
Although I've been critical of Boise State this season, the Broncos deserved a better opponent than tonight's Utah team. Utes' first-string QB was out, and the OC didn't help his backup with playcalling. Textbook example of what happens when your team has a very good defense and a poor (tonight, at least) offense -- close game in the first quarter, lose the lead in the second quarter, wheels come off by the second half and yours truly switches over to college basketball permanently.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 23, 2010 0:16:34 GMT -5
Your official national championship preview from an ESSEEESSEEEEEE fan, complete with Bocephus background music:
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Dec 23, 2010 13:56:06 GMT -5
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 23, 2010 14:11:59 GMT -5
So why aren't they sitting out their bowl game?
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Post by hoyainspirit on Dec 23, 2010 14:23:51 GMT -5
Does Pryor go in the first round if he skips his senior season? Surely he must at least consider going early.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 23, 2010 15:45:45 GMT -5
inspirit, it's obviously conjecture at this point, but the talking heads that I have heard today are pretty much assuming that whatever decision Pryor had to make about coming back for next season is moot now and that he will depart for the NFL.
As for why these players are "eligible" for the Sugar Bowl but ineligible for 5 games next season ... well, that's the NCAA for you.
I just kind of wonder how this might have been different if tOSU were playing for the Natty Tite. Do you think the NCAA would have had to suspend them? Do you think they might have delayed the story? What ... I just can't believe that if they were playing for the Championship but then had this arise, there could be anyway that the NCAA could -- with a straight face -- allow them to play for the title.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Dec 23, 2010 19:54:20 GMT -5
From a selfish standpoint, I'm happy Pryor and his mates are playing. Means a larger crowd, and thus greater economic benefit to New Orleans and the Sugar Bowl. It's the NCAA. It's all about the money.
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 23, 2010 20:07:15 GMT -5
inspirit, it's obviously conjecture at this point, but the talking heads that I have heard today are pretty much assuming that whatever decision Pryor had to make about coming back for next season is moot now and that he will depart for the NFL. As for why these players are "eligible" for the Sugar Bowl but ineligible for 5 games next season ... well, that's the NCAA for you. I just kind of wonder how this might have been different if tOSU were playing for the Natty Tite. Do you think the NCAA would have had to suspend them? Do you think they might have delayed the story? What ... I just can't believe that if they were playing for the Championship but then had this arise, there could be anyway that the NCAA could -- with a straight face -- allow them to play for the title. See "Auburn" and "Newton, Cam" for the answer to your question.
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Post by The Stig on Dec 23, 2010 22:34:51 GMT -5
This may be the stupidest NCAA ruling ever, and that's saying a heck of a lot. Not only do they let the kids off with virtually no punishment (can't serve a 5 game suspension if they're not there next year), but what should have been their punishment basically just pushes them into the NFL. So in other words, the NCAA is encouraging top players to drop out of school and play pro sports instead of college.
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Post by RDF on Dec 24, 2010 2:42:16 GMT -5
Does Pryor go in the first round if he skips his senior season? Surely he must at least consider going early. Where's Pryor going? He can't throw accurately enough to be a good NFL QB--and he's not that fast or physical-he's basically what Cam Newton would be if Cam Newton was average. Which is what keeps me leaning towards Auburn in title game--Oregon couldn't stop Pryor and he's nowhere the QB/athlete that Newton is. Then again--Oregon lost Masoli/Blount, and gained character, so give them that.
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 24, 2010 10:58:44 GMT -5
From a selfish standpoint, I'm happy Pryor and his mates are playing. Means a larger crowd, and thus greater economic benefit to New Orleans and the Sugar Bowl. It's the NCAA. It's all about the money. DING DING DING DING! TV ratings for the bowl game. More tickets sold more travelers to The Big Easy More money flowing around town. Punish the kids? What, are you crazy? This is serious money man!
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Post by hifigator on Dec 24, 2010 12:03:43 GMT -5
inspirit, it's obviously conjecture at this point, but the talking heads that I have heard today are pretty much assuming that whatever decision Pryor had to make about coming back for next season is moot now and that he will depart for the NFL. As for why these players are "eligible" for the Sugar Bowl but ineligible for 5 games next season ... well, that's the NCAA for you. I just kind of wonder how this might have been different if tOSU were playing for the Natty Tite. Do you think the NCAA would have had to suspend them? Do you think they might have delayed the story? What ... I just can't believe that if they were playing for the Championship but then had this arise, there could be anyway that the NCAA could -- with a straight face -- allow them to play for the title. See "Auburn" and "Newton, Cam" for the answer to your question. Yeah, I thought about that when I posed the question, but I do think there is a difference. Now I'm not naive enough to think that Cam didn't know about his dad's dealings, but it isn't the same as the "cut and dry" case with the Buckeye players. My point is that if the NCAA actually found cause to suspend players as they did here, but if OSU was in the Championship game, would they have handled it the same way? Either way, it would have cause a firestorm.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 29, 2010 2:09:19 GMT -5
M-I-Z! C-H-O-K-E! Nobody Cougs it like Mizzou.
I think DJK's future NFL career got a boost tonight -- Stanzi looked like a HS QB without his favorite WR. Which team drafts the (alleged) keeper of Iowa City's finest drug house and waits for the congratulatory phone call from the President?
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Dec 29, 2010 7:11:49 GMT -5
good win for iowa and the big 10.
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