2010 Pre-Season Thread

[DFW HOYA]

The 2010 roster has been released: 11 rising sophomores from the opening day 2009 roster did not return to the team, seven rising juniors (including QB James Brady) did not either.

A total of 84 on the roster (down from 91 in 2009), as follows:

34 freshmen (Class of '14, adding one from the May release)
17 sophomores (Class of '13, includes one transfer)
17 juniors (Class of '12, includes one walk-on)
16 seniors (Class of '11)

In addition, a new DB assistant is listed in the prospectus.

grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/gu/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2010_Preseason_Prospectus.pdf

More to follow on the front page over the weekend.

[derhoya]

Aug 6, 2010 15:34:57 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Ugh, one step forward, two back: the 2010 roster has been released.

11 rising sophomores from the opening day 2009 roster did not return to the team, seven rising juniors (including James Brady) did not either.

A total of 84 on the roster (down from 91 in 2009), as follows:

33 freshmen (Class of '14)
17 sophomores (Class of '13)
18 juniors (Class of '12)
16 seniors (Class of '11)

More to follow over the weekend.

Wow. When's camp open? I haven't heard squat about it...

[jkhoya12]

Aug 6, 2010 16:45:33 GMT -5 derhoya said:

Aug 6, 2010 15:34:57 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Ugh, one step forward, two back: the 2010 roster has been released.

11 rising sophomores from the opening day 2009 roster did not return to the team, seven rising juniors (including James Brady) did not either.

A total of 84 on the roster (down from 91 in 2009), as follows:

33 freshmen (Class of '14)
17 sophomores (Class of '13)
18 juniors (Class of '12)
16 seniors (Class of '11)

More to follow over the weekend.

Wow. When's camp open? I haven't heard squat about it...

Sunday

[2ndRyan]

Since we are non-scholarship isn't everyone a walk-on?

I guess in this case, it's a junior who didn't play his first two years?

In Ivy/Patriot football, a walk-on refers to a non-recruited player (or one that is admitted outside of football) that joins the team, such as a soccer player who makes the team as a kicker.--Admin

[jkhoya12]

Training Camp 8/9/10:

Opening day of camp. Was definitely high energy. Coach Dence is really a fiery guy, will definitely get the slots to work their butts off. Mostly conditioning but ran some 7 on 7 plays. Chance Logan looks like he's fully recovered from his injury. Brandon Durham is really quick in the open field. Quarterback competition will be a long one. Kempf is the leader at this point. Really weird to see so many kickers out there on the field. Will post a recap of today's later.

[hoyawatcher]

Was on campus Sunday and had a chance to see some of the freshman outside of the workout and they looked a lot bigger than I remember last year. Even my daughter commented on how much bigger the freshman were. I can only hope they can also play and stick around for a couple of years on the team. But it is somewhat of a positive

[jkhoya12]

A few thoughts on the scrimmage from today:

Brett Weiss wasn't as impressive as I expected but he's a solid kicker and hit around a 40 yd FG with room to spare.
David Conway's first punt was great, second was a shank so hard to tell, but some potential there. If I had to guess, MacZura will be the opening day punter.

Will Carroll was impressive at DB until he got burned by Jamal Davis for a touchdown and subsequently injured his shoulder on the play.
Stephen Atwater had a nice tackle.
John Porter knocked down a pass nicely, and Andrew Maliska had a sack on Kempf I believe.
Keerome was Keerome although he dropped a beautiful pass from Darby over the middle.
At this point, Darby will be the starting QB. Kempf had a tough time today, overthrowing a lot of balls and Aiken is a year away at least.
Oladeji will be the power back, Chance Logan looks great out there as a D. Sproles type. I was also told to watch out for Dalen Claytor who didn't play after twisting his ankle this week in practice.
Some great play-calling by Coach Patenaude including a play action option play, as well as a reverse on 4th and goal for a touchdown to Brandon Durham. He was commenting how no one can see Durham behind the line because he's so short. Jeremiah Kayal had a couple of nice catches, as did Patrick Ryan, and Darby was great all day in the pocket passing(which is generally his weakness when compared to Kempf) and also rolling out of the pocket and passing.


Overall pretty encouraging.

[ahoyadad]

sounds like encouraging news for the O. How did the defense look??

[DFW HOYA]

Thanks for the report. Still hard to see Oladeji as a power back at 205 lbs., though.

What Georgetown has lacked for years is a true FB who will not only block but get carries (I know some coaches downgrade the role of the FB today but it shouldn't be ignored in an offense that is not strong on the O-line).

Erik Carter could block but he literally never got the ball. Kyle Van Fleet was listed at FB but became a combo back. A number of FB recruits arrived and left without much fanfare (Matt Barnes, Matt Burgner, Alex Carroll, etc.) Who is the last true FB at Georgetown, Rob Belli?

[FormerHoya]

Aug 21, 2010 14:36:12 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Thanks for the report. Still hard to see Oladeji as a power back at 205 lbs., though.

What Georgetown has lacked for years is a true FB who will not only block but get carries (I know some coaches downgrade the role of the FB today but it shouldn't be ignored in an offense that is not strong on the O-line).

Erik Carter could block but he literally never got the ball. Kyle Van Fleet was listed at FB but became a combo back. A number of FB recruits arrived and left without much fanfare (Matt Barnes, Matt Burgner, Alex Carroll, etc.) Who is the last true FB at Georgetown, Rob Belli?

Did Rob Belli ever play fullback? He was bigger, but as I recall was always a tailback. Scott Paltos and Charlie Turner were solid fullbacks around the same time.

[DFW HOYA]

I think you're right about that one. Aaron Brown was a FB as well around that time.

[hoya34]

Aug 21, 2010 10:38:02 GMT -5 @jkhoya12 said:

A few thoughts on the scrimmage from today:

Brett Weiss wasn't as impressive as I expected but he's a solid kicker and hit around a 40 yd FG with room to spare.
David Conway's first punt was great, second was a shank so hard to tell, but some potential there. If I had to guess, MacZura will be the opening day punter.

Will Carroll was impressive at DB until he got burned by Jamal Davis for a touchdown and subsequently injured his shoulder on the play.
Stephen Atwater had a nice tackle.
John Porter knocked down a pass nicely, and Andrew Maliska had a sack on Kempf I believe.
Keerome was Keerome although he dropped a beautiful pass from Darby over the middle.
At this point, Darby will be the starting QB. Kempf had a tough time today, overthrowing a lot of balls and Aiken is a year away at least.
Oladeji will be the power back, Chance Logan looks great out there as a D. Sproles type. I was also told to watch out for Dalen Claytor who didn't play after twisting his ankle this week in practice.
Some great play-calling by Coach Patenaude including a play action option play, as well as a reverse on 4th and goal for a touchdown to Brandon Durham. He was commenting how no one can see Durham behind the line because he's so short. Jeremiah Kayal had a couple of nice catches, as did Patrick Ryan, and Darby was great all day in the pocket passing(which is generally his weakness when compared to Kempf) and also rolling out of the pocket and passing.


Overall pretty encouraging.

I haven't been on this board in a long time, but I was shocked that 18 upper classman quit after last season. That is insane, but I guess losing every week takes its toll on you.

Second, i am extremely thankful that the internet wasn't in wide use when I played. If I had to log on after an intersquad scrimmage and read some d-bag's critique of my performance, I might have lost my mind.

The coverage of the scrimmage was not a "critique". Given how little the program is covered of late, the information is appreciated.--Admin

[DanMcQ]

Actually, GUHoyas.com has posted coverage of the team:

Report on the scrimmage:

www.guhoyas.com/blog/2010/08/saturday-morning-georgetown-football-scrimmage.html

...and an overview of the quarterbacks:

www.guhoyas.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/081910aaa.html

[kchoya]

Aug 25, 2010 1:24:06 GMT -5 odufan757 said:

Brain fart, they lost in the Elite 8 to eventual NC Duke. Also, I'd have loved to see us beat Gtown down in football this coming year as well.

Ahh well.

You realize that only 5 or 6 people care about GU football?

[kchoya]

Aug 25, 2010 18:37:21 GMT -5 odufan757 said:

That's kind of sad actually. You'd think such a prestigous University would have more enthusiasm about the most popular college sport in the country. Would I be correct in assuming the GU football team suffers heavily because it is hard for them to recruit talented players who also can qualify academically AND stay in school long enough to play 4 years?

I agree. If only we had the enthusiasm for football and/or football success of other top 25 prestigious universities. Places like Columbia, Princeton, MIT, Dartmouth, Chicago, Johns Hopkins, Brown, Emory and Carnegie Mellon.

Sad.

BTW, maybe you should focus more on spelling and less on athletics at that "prestigous" school of yours.

[DFW HOYA]

Aug 25, 2010 19:04:26 GMT -5 kchoya said:

I agree. If only we had the enthusiasm for football and/or football success of other top 25 prestigious universities. Places like Columbia, Princeton, MIT, Dartmouth, Chicago, Johns Hopkins, Brown, Emory and Carnegie Mellon.

So much for satire.

Georgetown would do well to emulate the success of Princeton University (all time record 788-368-50, .674), which has won fewer than four games just once since 1990 and plays in one of the most modern I-AA stadiums around. And Brown? Two Ivy titles since 2005. Hopkins won ten games last year.

Let's get back to basketball and invite ODU fans to the football board if there are additional questions.

[kchoya]

Aug 25, 2010 19:59:32 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Aug 25, 2010 19:04:26 GMT -5 kchoya said:

I agree. If only we had the enthusiasm for football and/or football success of other top 25 prestigious universities. Places like Columbia, Princeton, MIT, Dartmouth, Chicago, Johns Hopkins, Brown, Emory and Carnegie Mellon.

So much for satire.

Georgetown would do well to emulate the success of Princeton University (all time record 788-368-50, .674), which has won fewer than four games just once since 1990 and plays in one of the most modern I-AA stadiums around. And Brown? Two Ivy titles since 2005. Hopkins won ten games last year.

Let's get back to basketball and invite ODU fans to the football board if there are additional questions.

Which makes my point - no one outside of the upper northeast knows or cares about, for example, Johns Hopkins DIII football. And what about the numerous other schools I mentioned?

As for Princeton, it helps that the school played in the first college football game -- that's about as relevant as GU's trip to the Orange Bowl. And their stadium? When you have a $16 billion endowment, that helps a little. Plus, when the stadium seats almost 28,000 and your average attendance is less than a 1/3 of that, is something to aspire to?

[thebin]

The jury is in on Princeton's stadium; It is a white elephant. It was built way too big for the times. It will never sell out again without U2 being involved. Best case scenario is that for one game every 24 months they get about 50-60% of capacity for the Yale game. For other games the place looks totally deserted even during championship runs, including for games vs rivals like Dartmouth and Harvard which go about 35-40% of capacity. Frankly 10K is a good ivy crowd these days and nothing to be ashamed of and yet....10K just disappears in that place. Not quite as bad as 10K looks in the Yale bowl- but the Yale bowl is older than dirt. Princeton should have known better in 1997 and built it for 20K tops. Instead they have a 27k seater that looks like it should hold 50K (that skeletal structure trying to make it look like Palmer stadium) which manages to make the actual 10k crowd look like 5K.

[theexorcist]

Aug 26, 2010 10:09:03 GMT -5 kchoya said:

Aug 25, 2010 19:59:32 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

So much for satire.

Georgetown would do well to emulate the success of Princeton University (all time record 788-368-50, .674), which has won fewer than four games just once since 1990 and plays in one of the most modern I-AA stadiums around. And Brown? Two Ivy titles since 2005. Hopkins won ten games last year.

Let's get back to basketball and invite ODU fans to the football board if there are additional questions.

Which makes my point - no one outside of the upper northeast knows or cares about, for example, Johns Hopkins DIII football. And what about the numerous other schools I mentioned?

As for Princeton, it helps that the school played in the first college football game -- that's about as relevant as GU's trip to the Orange Bowl. And their stadium? When you have a $16 billion endowment, that helps a little. Plus, when the stadium seats almost 28,000 and your average attendance is less than a 1/3 of that, is something to aspire to?

The issue DFW raises is that, even by the standards of "prestigious" universities that don't play I-A football and aren't known for their program, the Hoyas are bad.

Let's explore the rest...

Columbia: 4-6 in 2009, 2-8 in 2008
Princeton: 5-5 in 2009, 4-6 in 2008
(III) MIT: 1-8 in 2009, 5-5 in 2008
Dartmouth: 2-8 in 2009, 0-10 in 2008
(III) Chicago: 5-4 in 2009, 3-6 in 2008
Brown: 6-4 in 2009, 7-3 in 2008
(III) Emory: Has no football team
(III) Carnegie Mellon: 10-1 in 2009 (lost in 1st round playoffs), 5-5 in 2008 (kept alive a streak of 34 years of .500 or better football.

So we're better than Emory, at least.

[BubbleVisionBiff]

Got us a write up in Post today. Apologies if posted elsewhere.

tiny.cc/qcb0m