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Post by TC on Dec 10, 2009 11:56:07 GMT -5
Kentucky beat CT last night in a pretty close game and afterwards they interviewed Calipari. I've never seen a Coach say absolutely nothing positive about his team that gutted out a win against a legitimate Top 25 team. Every word out of his mouth - even about John Wall - was completely negative. Wondering if anyone else caught this - I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
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Post by Boz on Dec 10, 2009 12:02:27 GMT -5
Kentucky beat CT last night in a pretty close game and afterwards they interviewed Calipari. I've never seen a Coach say absolutely nothing positive about his team that gutted out a win against a legitimate Top 25 team. Every word out of his mouth - even about John Wall - was completely negative. Wondering if anyone else caught this - I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I'm pretty sure this is not exactly new for Calipari. Earlier on PTI he did much of the same thing, all while dismissing any accountability for violations that went on while he was the head coach at UMass and Memphis. I believe his (roughly) exact quote was: "As the head coach -- or CEO -- [such arrogance] I am responsible for those things, but it's really difficult for me to be held accountable for them, because I can't know everything that's going on." |
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Post by williambraskyiii on Dec 10, 2009 12:08:13 GMT -5
um, John, buy an Ouija Board...Ken Lay would like to tell you something.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 10, 2009 12:23:22 GMT -5
Kentucky fans are such pretentious. I can only imagine what they will be like now.
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Post by RDF on Dec 10, 2009 12:41:45 GMT -5
Calipari is all that is WRONG with sports. He is your typical college DICTATOR (he puts the DIC in that word too) that will cheat--but have others do it for him, and then once he's caught--he runs for the hills and lets others deal with his mess. He talks up guys in offseason and once it gets going--they "can't play......have no clue....." yet he has his organization PAY $$$$$$ for their "services".
My question is simple--does he honestly think anyone buys the fact that he "can't control all that happens" when he makes a note of the fact he's the CEO and in "total control" of the operation all offseason?? Let's face it--he's the only coach in CBB History to have 2 Final Four appearances VOIDED due to cheating and Vitale defending the Derrick Rose situation is laughable--"John wouldn't have played him if Clearing House didn't clear him". THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE--the issue is that Rose had his college entrance exams TAKEN FOR HIM and Calipari and WWW did that to get him into school--just as they helped Wall, Cousins, and Bledsoe this past offseason.
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Post by theexorcist on Dec 10, 2009 12:47:32 GMT -5
Without seeing the interview, I'm sort of limited. But, as you all well know, that's never stopped me from weighing in before.
Kentucky is easily one of the best teams in the country. They have beaten UNC at Chapel Hill in Lexington and UConn at their home away from Storrs. People are ready to canonize Wall.
If I were a Wildcat, I might start to believe my own press. I might start to think that no team is better than UK, despite noted breakdowns in the halfcourt set. Calipari, by being difficult, can be doing his best to publicly deflate the balloon before it gets too big and pops.
This isn't a new coaching technique. Herb Brooks, 1980 US Olympic hockey coach, put down his team. Lou Holtz talked up the opposition. Both got great results. Even Randy Pausch, the Last Lecture guy, was coached by a colleague to tell students who had blown him away on a presentation in class "that was OK, but I know you can do better".
I prefer the III method of motivating ("we're showing signs of progress, but we can be better"), but coaching and managing egos has a variety of different ways to do it. Note also that UK fans are, as has been mentioned, insanely demanding, so this may be a way of playing to their expectations ("Hey, we whupped those Huskies, but they're not as half as good as they could be, and Coach realizes that! Let's buy him an Escalade!").
EDIT - RDF corrected that UK beat UNC in Kentucky.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 10, 2009 12:48:18 GMT -5
So, suddenly your top recruits' SAT score jumps like 500 points, and there's no way you could have known something shady was going on?
Right...
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 10, 2009 12:51:32 GMT -5
ESPN also had a report on the antipathy between Calipari and Connecticut coach Jim Calhoun. Say what you will about Calhoun's programa and/or style of coaching, but on the whole he has a developed level of respect from within the coaching fraternity as a whole. By contrast, Calipari is from the school of thought to step over whomever you need and don't look back.
Within three years, UK better be looking for a new coach because Calipari will either a) lead UK to a national title and be gone to the NBA, b) lead UK to a national title and be on the verge of probation, or c) fail to lead UK to a national title, which is part of the inflated standards UK fans have of its program.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 10, 2009 12:53:25 GMT -5
Kentucky basketball fans are absolutely unbearable. They honsestly do think their Edited doesn't stink. Basketball is their "God-given right." We should all bend down and kiss the earth when Big Blue blesses us with their presence. Man, this is going to be a royal pain in the Edited for a while.
Edited. Keep it clean.--Admin
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Post by theexorcist on Dec 10, 2009 12:56:57 GMT -5
Oh, and despite everything that I said above, he has consistently gone on the other side of the law at both programs at which he's been, so his management, which he is responsible for, is awful and he represents everything that's wrong with college athletics.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 10, 2009 13:06:48 GMT -5
ESPN also had a report on the antipathy between Calipari and Connecticut coach Jim Calhoun. Say what you will about Calhoun's programa and/or style of coaching, but on the whole he has a developed level of respect from within the coaching fraternity as a whole. By contrast, Calipari is from the school of thought to step over whomever you need and don't look back. Within three years, UK better be looking for a new coach because Calipari will either a) lead UK to a national title and be gone to the NBA, b) lead UK to a national title and be on the verge of probation, or c) fail to lead UK to a national title, which is part of the inflated standards UK fans have of its program. You forgot D) Fail to lead UK to a national title and on the verge of probation. If they don't win this year, that is the most likely outcome. |
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Post by Oh My! on Dec 10, 2009 13:13:59 GMT -5
um, John, buy an Ouija Board...Ken Lay would like to tell you something. My nominee for, at the very least, post of the 2009-10 season. Well played, braskyiii |
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Post by jgalt on Dec 10, 2009 13:14:20 GMT -5
ESPN also had a report on the antipathy between Calipari and Connecticut coach Jim Calhoun. Say what you will about Calhoun's programa and/or style of coaching, but on the whole he has a developed level of respect from within the coaching fraternity as a whole. By contrast, Calipari is from the school of thought to step over whomever you need and don't look back. Within three years, UK better be looking for a new coach because Calipari will either a) lead UK to a national title and be gone to the NBA, b) lead UK to a national title and be on the verge of probation, or c) fail to lead UK to a national title, which is part of the inflated standards UK fans have of its program. You forgot D) Fail to lead UK to a national title and on the verge of probation. If they don't win this year, that is the most likely outcome. It doesnt matter how many games or championships he wins because they will just be taken away the year he decides to leave. |
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Post by EasyEd on Dec 10, 2009 13:41:12 GMT -5
Kentucky basketball fans are absolutely unbearable. They honsestly do think their ---- doesn't stink. Basketball is their "God-given right." We should all bend down and kiss the earth when Big Blue blesses us with their presence. Man, this is going to be a royal pain in the --- for a while. I always thought that was Florida fans. |
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Post by RDF on Dec 10, 2009 14:46:49 GMT -5
Kentucky beat UNC in Lexington Exorcist--but I understand your point.
Thing is--most coaches keep the personal criticism to practice sessions and the locker room. Calipari acts all "tough" with these guys--but he's got runners/handlers/pimps to answer to as everyone has gotten a cut to get him the talent he "complains" about.
He's unbearable and DFW is spot on--only he left out last option--no matter what happens-Calipari will have them on verge of sanctions.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 10, 2009 15:15:24 GMT -5
The difference, RDF, is that Calipari is coaching professionals. Coaches like JTIII understand these are student-athletes who aren't getting paid.
If Cousins is going to pull down the kind of cash he's making, Calipari can bitch him out in the media.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 10, 2009 16:29:05 GMT -5
Kentucky basketball fans are absolutely unbearable. They honsestly do think their ---- doesn't stink. Basketball is their "God-given right." We should all bend down and kiss the earth when Big Blue blesses us with their presence. Man, this is going to be a royal pain in the --- for a while. I always thought that was Florida fans. Surely you jest. Florida is a johnny-come-lately in both football and baseketball. The only thing close down in these parts would be the Bama fans in football. No, I'm dead serious. Kentucky hoops fans think the world revolves around them. The SEC tournament is normally about 50% Big Blue and 50% the other 11 teams. That's why it's so nice when they get bumped -- tickets get dramatically easier and cheaper. |
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Post by Elvado on Dec 10, 2009 16:40:17 GMT -5
It was fitting that Cal would coach in the V Classic. He is a lineal descendent of the V school of renegade programs with probation in the immediate wake of a V/Calipari departure. UMASS plays the role of Iona and Memphis the role of NC State. Tragic death has washed some, but not all, of the stink off Valvano's career.
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Post by Boz on Dec 10, 2009 16:44:16 GMT -5
I think Valvano also was helped out by the fact that he was a genuinely kind and likable guy who was good friends with a lot of his peers.
Do any coaches like John Calipari?
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 10, 2009 20:57:33 GMT -5
Calipari is a fraud. I can't believe anyone involved in CBB doesn't know it, but of course, most public figures (i.e., other coaches) don't want to say so. It's sad that schools are so desperate for success as to hire this guy.
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