miamihoya
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Post by miamihoya on Dec 10, 2009 2:17:05 GMT -5
The Hoya Paranoia Blog offers up its All-Decade team: blogs.thehoya.com/paranoia/georgetowns-all-decade-team/First Team: Jon Wallace Kevin Braswell Jeff Green (Player of the Decade) Mike Sweetney Roy Hibbert Second Team: Brandon Bowman Ashanti Cook Gerald Riley Jessie Sapp DaJuan Summers |
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Post by jd369 on Dec 10, 2009 3:00:15 GMT -5
interesting, agree for the most part, but they'll regret not having Greg there
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Post by strummer8526 on Dec 10, 2009 8:21:50 GMT -5
I'd swap Greg for Dajuan, or at least Bowman, and I think by the end of this season, Clark will definitely be second team. I'm not sure if he'd replace Cook or Sapp, but I expect him somewhere. (I'm assuming we're counting 2010 as part of the decade so we include the second half of this season.)
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tjm62
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Post by tjm62 on Dec 10, 2009 8:33:27 GMT -5
From the look of this, I'm glad I didn't get to Georgetown until 2005.
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Post by Giannicolus Jones on Dec 10, 2009 9:13:46 GMT -5
Kinda hard to argue with that list. Only thing, really, is about where do they mark the years.
Years 2000 - 2009: Jan '00 - Dec '09?
Seasons 1999-00 - 2008-09: Nov '99 - Mar '09?
Seasons 2000-01 - 2009-10: Nov '00 - Mar '10?
Something else that I haven't thought of yet?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 10, 2009 9:28:14 GMT -5
I clearly think they're only going with players who have graduated already.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Dec 10, 2009 9:51:41 GMT -5
No Nat Burton? No DJ Owens?
Or do they go on the "All-Intangibles" team with Tyler Crawford, Pat Ewing Jr. and Victor Samnick?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 10, 2009 10:45:34 GMT -5
It seems that, given the timing, it is from Jan 1, 2000 to December 31, 2009. Which is kind of odd.
Pretty hard to argue except for:
Summers (3 years)
DJ Owens (4)
Monroe (1.5 - if you're a peak person)
Freeman (2.5)
Ruben (1.5)
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Post by NCHoya on Dec 10, 2009 10:51:51 GMT -5
If this team is for players that have graduated, left early then I have no issue really with anyone there. Monroe could be on this team in lieu of Sapp by the end of this season, but last season was not enough given the team's performance.
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757hoyafan
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Post by 757hoyafan on Dec 10, 2009 11:03:11 GMT -5
Greg over a 3 or 4 year player? Nope. I would have picked Sweets over Jeff.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Dec 10, 2009 11:05:31 GMT -5
Yeah I don't think they're including this season.
More or less agree with the list, but I'd add Honorable Mention: Pat Ewing Jr., Darrel Owens, Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 10, 2009 11:33:38 GMT -5
How could I forget Pat? Even two years he should get an HM.
And yes, the Green-Hibbert-Sweetney discussion is interesting.
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Post by strummer8526 on Dec 10, 2009 13:24:54 GMT -5
How could I forget Pat? Even two years he should get an HM. And yes, the Green-Hibbert-Sweetney discussion is interesting. Green almost single-handedly carried us to a Final Four. That Final Four put us back on the map. You can say that Roy was an essential part of that team too, and he was, but I think Green was the essential piece. Based purely on team success or lack thereof, I don't think Sweetney has a chance in the Player of the Decade discussion. |
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 10, 2009 13:31:01 GMT -5
I think the more interesting analysis is what your starting lineup would be PG-SG-SF-PF-C (interchangeability aside). Put guys only in the positions that ESPN told you they played. Mine:
Wallace
Cook
Summers
Green
Hibbert
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Post by atlasfrysmith on Dec 10, 2009 13:41:13 GMT -5
And so we have the age-old question whether individual awards should be based only or largely on individual performance. Sweetney was an absolute beast. We chanted "You can't stop him" and we were right. Give Big Mike the ball, and he would put in the basket. If he didn't, he'd be the first one jumping for his own rebound, and then he'd still put it in the basket. Foul him 50 times a game, and he'd make his free throws. You really couldn't stop him. Nobody's approached that level of individual dominance since.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 10, 2009 13:44:43 GMT -5
And so we have the age-old question whether individual awards should be based only or largely on individual performance. Sweetney was an absolute beast. We chanted "You can't stop him" and we were right. Give Big Mike the ball, and he would put in the basket. If he didn't, he'd be the first one jumping for his own rebound, and then he'd still put it in the basket. Foul him 50 times a game, and he'd make his free throws. You really couldn't stop him. Nobody's approached that level of individual dominance since. That's a fair point, but, at the same time, we haven't needed anyone to be so dominant in the JT3 years in terms of statistical categories. |
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Post by EasyEd on Dec 10, 2009 13:49:44 GMT -5
And so we have the age-old question whether individual awards should be based only or largely on individual performance. Sweetney was an absolute beast. We chanted "You can't stop him" and we were right. Give Big Mike the ball, and he would put in the basket. If he didn't, he'd be the first one jumping for his own rebound, and then he'd still put it in the basket. Foul him 50 times a game, and he'd make his free throws. You really couldn't stop him. Nobody's approached that level of individual dominance since. What he said. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 10, 2009 13:59:09 GMT -5
And so we have the age-old question whether individual awards should be based only or largely on individual performance. Sweetney was an absolute beast. We chanted "You can't stop him" and we were right. Give Big Mike the ball, and he would put in the basket. If he didn't, he'd be the first one jumping for his own rebound, and then he'd still put it in the basket. Foul him 50 times a game, and he'd make his free throws. You really couldn't stop him. Nobody's approached that level of individual dominance since. Right. Which is why there's a debate, but we've had this one before (not so long ago). I don't really know where I stand. Jeff had much better teammates and was the creator and set the tone for the team. But he never had to deal with triple teams. I added Roy as well because he was a ridiculous defensive presence in addition to an amazingly efficient offensive player. Jeff could do more offensively, but Roy was better than most people on this board give him credit for. |
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Post by chep3 on Dec 10, 2009 14:39:05 GMT -5
I loved Sweets. He was my introduction to Hoya Basketball as a student. And probably the most dominant Hoya I got to fully watch, outside of AI. But the Final Four has to take it.
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Post by HoyaChris on Dec 10, 2009 14:53:14 GMT -5
I go with Jeff as the MVP by a hair because of the Final Four, but also because Jeff could get his own shot in end of game situations, while Mike was more reliant on his teammates.
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