JimmyHoya
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Post by JimmyHoya on Nov 30, 2009 22:22:57 GMT -5
Yeah, I've given Julian heck and then some, but at least from the two games we've got someone who at the very least is more confident on the offensive end and an aggressive presence on D, if not more.
Henry, on the other hand, is out of position 70% of the time. Kinda scary.
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on Nov 30, 2009 22:26:44 GMT -5
Another tasty cupcake game. we did what was expected which is always good, but msm is not anything to write home about.
I do like the recent emphasis put on picking up the tempo on offense. I know the players appreciate this as well!!
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mapei
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Post by mapei on Nov 30, 2009 22:28:12 GMT -5
Loved Julian tonight, and Chris was outstanding, best game I've seen from him in a while. Greg missed a flotilla of layups, sometimes in a row, but kept battling for the putbacks.
MSM went through a Villanova-like stretch in the first half when they simply Could. Not. MIss. Amazing. Of course quite a few of the 3s were open looks; I couldn't tell why they were getting that open so easily.
Jason is so much better this year; I agree with all the upthread compliments about him.
We seem to be running the offense much more quickly this year. It resembles the P-town in that Greg and Julian spend a lot of time in the high post, but the pace is nothing like 3's earlier Gtown teams. Fun to watch. We'll find out soon enough how it all looks against tougher competition, but for now I'm enjoying the ride.
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theexorcist
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Post by theexorcist on Nov 30, 2009 22:38:08 GMT -5
Ok, something needs to be said.
When Georgetown does the ad for "follow us on Facebook and Twitter", the comment is to go to Promotions, then Social Networking. This is needlessly complicated and is similar to Troy McClure telling you to press 7 then 8 then 469 on your phone if you want a massage at Rancho Relaxo. Put the links on the main home page. Simple, easy.
Oh, and I enjoy bribing the students to attend women's basketball games - for the game against Wake, the first fifty students get a Chipotle gift card and reserved seats for American. I'm waiting for the promotions for the dregs of the Big East, which will probably include a $10,000 savings bond, dinner for four at The Palm, and your chance to call up to two plays for the Syracuse game.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Nov 30, 2009 22:40:13 GMT -5
Tonight's TEAM was fun to watch. Things I loved: - Agressive rebounding all game long - how many boards + putbacks did we have?!? Nice. 40-28 edge overall, 13 of which were on offense.
- Transition game - even though we didn't score every time, we ran it, and when we do that we throw off defenses who only prepare for our half-court sets.
- Improved players continuing to show it - Jason & Julian. Jason's doing everything right right now: playing above the rim, calming the team down when we need it, hitting long shots, hitting close shots, making passes, bringing it up. Julian is showing that he's capable of being the big man on the block, getting up for boards, and has developed some nice post moves & rim game. 14 pts, 8 rebs, 3 blocks.
- Up tempo offense.
- Greg being more assertive - he was taking it to the rim, and getting his own rebounds and putting 'em back. Loved to see that. 19 and 11 for the double-double. He took 19 shots -- I like that.
- Hollis. Dude had SEVEN boards.
- Henry's big swats - even the goaltend!
- Chris - both his transition game and hitting 3s! He had a very good game tonight: 7-11/4-5 for 18 pts, 3 reb, 3 asst, 2 TO, 1 steal, 1 foul.
Things I didn't like: - Perimeter defense. We're still not there on the switch, especially to the right side corner. Two games in a row an inferior opponent has exploited that. Butler will be the first big test of whether we can.
- Julian's conditioning. Despite this being his best game (and it was - loved him tonight) you could tell his legs were going by the end when he went up for three consecutive 2-footers that went off the front of the rim.
- Greg's finishes. Maybe because he's not used to doing it, but he would make a strong move to get past his man and ... miss the shot. Happened several times.
- Turnovers. I'm sorry but 15 is still too many, especially against a less athletic team like MSM.
But, no gripes overall. This game was fun to watch. Aggressive on both ends, pushing the tempo, running the offense quickly and crisply, crashing boards and getting put backs, hitting the three, running in transition; all against a team that, for all intents and purposes, played a pretty good game. GO HOYAS!
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blueeagle
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Post by blueeagle on Nov 30, 2009 22:42:31 GMT -5
Sorry to say it, but Greg Monroe can't jump!
The man is, by many measures, an outstanding basketball player. Outstanding. His passing game, his ball handling, his shooting touch, his basketball IQ - all stellar qualities. But the guy lacks explosiveness off the blocks. Despite the fact that Julian Vaughn looks like he is lumbering about when he tries to drive to the basket, he is able to elevate on a dime when flat footed as demonstrated by his alley-oop dunk earlier tonight. That is probably why JV is the designated jump ball guy as opposed to the taller GM. (Great game for Julian, by the way.) I believe that Greg's missed shots in the paint occur because he is unable to discard defenders with a quick step or an explosive move to the hoop. Several times during the Lafayette game as I watched Greg get a rebound and then lay it in, I thought to myself, "If Onaoku got that ball down low, he would just flush it and, in the process, break someone's arm."
I think Greg needs to speak to Blake Griffin's strength and conditioning coach. If Greg had Griffin's hops, forget about it.
Work those fast twitch muscles, Greg. Off to the Exorcist steps!
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hoyaboy1
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 30, 2009 22:47:06 GMT -5
You are right about Greg - he is just a mediocre athlete. He'll need to develop a better midrange game to make up for that.
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Post by krukster201 on Nov 30, 2009 22:58:44 GMT -5
Yea .. I'd like to see our bigs YAM those chippies .. I almost crushed my beer when I saw Julian get that OOP from Wright ... It seems coach wants Julian on the floor as much as possible - but he did seem wasted towards the end .. hope he can get that stamina right for the season .. maybe he had to much turkey over the weekend ..lol ... also pointed out above was the perimeter D .. they seemed to have many wide open looks .. coach mentioned it so Im sure we'll work on it .. I like that the pace has been picked up a notch on O - Run when its there type approach - thats great .. when we're on we'll be a tough out for anyone ..there was alot to be happy about with this young squad tonight .. I think we're in for a strong season and may shock a few people along the way ..right now we're looked at like the team that run's outta gas - underachieves and run's a boring offense .. cool with me .. but I see a completely different attitude from our players and the chemistry seems fluent .. time will tell .. looking forward to watching this season unfold .. one game at a time
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Nov 30, 2009 23:02:30 GMT -5
Ok, something needs to be said. When Georgetown does the ad for "follow us on Facebook and Twitter", the comment is to go to Promotions, then Social Networking. This is needlessly complicated and is similar to Troy McClure telling you to press 7 then 8 then 469 on your phone if you want a massage at Rancho Relaxo. Put the links on the main home page. Simple, easy. Oh, and I enjoy bribing the students to attend women's basketball games - for the game against Wake, the first fifty students get a Chipotle gift card and reserved seats for American. I'm waiting for the promotions for the dregs of the Big East, which will probably include a $10,000 savings bond, dinner for four at The Palm, and your chance to call up to two plays for the Syracuse game. Yeah, it was that kind of night. We spent a good deal of the game discussing whether the t-shirt gatling gun is actually capable of seriously injuring someone - e.g., how close to [insert person here] do you have to be to make it interesting...but, i digress.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 30, 2009 23:12:23 GMT -5
Ok, something needs to be said. When Georgetown does the ad for "follow us on Facebook and Twitter", the comment is to go to Promotions, then Social Networking. This is needlessly complicated and is similar to Troy McClure telling you to press 7 then 8 then 469 on your phone if you want a massage at Rancho Relaxo. Put the links on the main home page. Simple, easy. Oh, and I enjoy bribing the students to attend women's basketball games - for the game against Wake, the first fifty students get a Chipotle gift card and reserved seats for American. I'm waiting for the promotions for the dregs of the Big East, which will probably include a $10,000 savings bond, dinner for four at The Palm, and your chance to call up to two plays for the Syracuse game. Yeah, it was that kind of night. We spent a good deal of the game discussing whether the t-shirt gatling gun is actually capable of seriously injuring someone - e.g., how close to [insert person here] do you have to be to make it interesting...but, i digress. I spent most of last year hoping that the t-shirt gatling gun would catch fire and start launching flaming t-shirts into the crowd.
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FLHoya
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Post by FLHoya on Nov 30, 2009 23:13:16 GMT -5
Yeah, it was that kind of night. We spent a good deal of the game discussing whether the t-shirt gatling gun is actually capable of seriously injuring someone - e.g., how close to [insert person here] do you have to be to make it interesting...but, i digress. Funny you should say that. At Midnight Madness, the operators inadvertently fired it off at a distance of no more than 10 feet from the bench where the entire team was sitting at the time. Fortunately I think the shirts narrowly missed the players.
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theexorcist
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Post by theexorcist on Nov 30, 2009 23:16:36 GMT -5
Yeah, it was that kind of night. We spent a good deal of the game discussing whether the t-shirt gatling gun is actually capable of seriously injuring someone - e.g., how close to [insert person here] do you have to be to make it interesting...but, i digress. Funny you should say that. At Midnight Madness, the operators inadvertently fired it off at a distance of no more than 10 feet from the bench where the entire team was sitting at the time. Fortunately I think the shirts narrowly missed the players. Wow, great minds really DO think alike. I and some people I was sitting with discussed firing it into the Syracuse huddle during their timeouts.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 30, 2009 23:26:03 GMT -5
The good: Julian not only did he score a career high in points but he grabbed a career high in rebounds as well. Great interior defense Great rebounding, especially offensive. Chris wright's shooting. Some solid fast breaks. 7 blocks, 7 steals, 15 assists on The bad: perimeter defense. turn overs
from the box score: Points in the paint-MSM 22,GU 48. Points off turnovers-MSM 12,GU 14. 2nd chance points-MSM 4,GU 15. Fast break points-MSM 7,GU 16. Bench points-MSM 27,GU 11.
Greg was really working on his right hand in the second half. Unfortunately the returns were pretty bad went with his right 3 times missed 3 layups.
"Are we having fun? We're not ready to have fun yet, we have a long way to go, but I think at some point this year we're going to have fun." -JTIII
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Nov 30, 2009 23:37:20 GMT -5
was that Vaughan's best game as a HOYA? wow. Love Jason. Is he our best player -- both ends of the court? LOVE this team! SirSaxa.....this undoubtedly was JV's best game as a Hoya. I'm starting to love this kid. If he brings his lunch pale and hard hat to the court every game....we will be in great shape. As far as JC goes....you may be onto something here. I find myself never wanting the guy to sit. More importantly, it seems like III feels the same way given that Clark leads the team in minutes played. Jumping ahead to next year for a second....how in the world are we going to find the minutes to play Wright, Freeman, Clark, Vee and Markel in our backcourt? No doubt this will rival the backcourt of Brown, Smith, Horace, Wingate and Jackson.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Nov 30, 2009 23:38:11 GMT -5
" Are we having fun? We're not ready to have fun yet, we have a long way to go, but I think at some point this year we're going to have fun." -JTIII Nice find HSB. I think this is something we as a group have underestimated. We talk about Chris and Austin, Greg, Julian, et al. when we analyze how this team will do this year. But maybe the most important factor is the Coach. JT3 likes to WIN his conference... every year! He has never had a season like the second half of last year and I think he is absolutely driven and determined to obliterate those couple of months from everyone's memory banks and re-establish our Hoyas at the TOP of the nations #1 Hoops Conference. This is going to be a VERY exciting year. Hey Roscoe, if you know what's good for you... commit to GU now -- before you miss out.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Nov 30, 2009 23:46:22 GMT -5
THE TWO HEADED MONSTER CENTER IS GROWING julian was dominant on o and d and henry in the first half played alot and was MUCH MORE MEANIER MUCH MORE DIVING FOR BALLS BETTING REBBIES BLOCKING SHOTS the two headed monster center is starting to come out to play.. woowwowwoowowoowowwoowowowowoowowoowooowoow if that gets consistant and grows WOWOWOWOWWOWOOWOW we will see but looking good..
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Nov 30, 2009 23:47:41 GMT -5
ps AWFUL THREE D IN THE FIRST HALF but greatly improved in the second half GREAT GAME KEEP IT UP HOYAS
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Nov 30, 2009 23:56:19 GMT -5
WASH POST DOES IT AGAIN IN HER ARTICELE LIZ CLARK SAYS JERELLE BENIMAN DID NOT PLAY DUE TO INJURY FOR THE FOURTH CONSECUTIVE GAME hmmmmmm did she not attend or leave early HE DID FREAKING PLAY unreal great post coverage again.. better than this am where the only mention in the post was that listed in the on the air NOT EVEN A BOX WITH THE LITTLE GAME DAY SUMMARY unbelievable well not realy GO HOYAS WIN AND THEY MUST FOLLOW
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 1, 2009 0:02:13 GMT -5
Barker Davis>Camille Powell>Liz Clarke
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Dec 1, 2009 0:11:33 GMT -5
First off, it's Mark Tillmon and Julian Vaughn (not Stevie Ray). If we're gonna talk about our fellow Hoyas, let's at least get their names correct. Julian is still relatively new so that's kind of OK but Mark frikkin Tillmon? C'mon.
Jason Clark may well be the best player on the floor. The best part of that is that it's debatable. And Clark is gonna be a STUD. I don't know how at 6 foot whatever and 74 pounds, but he's gonna be a stud by March.
Hollis has crazy upside. Also built like a swizzle stick but man that kid plays hard and has fun doing it. Great looking stroke and gives all he has on the boards. Really nothing else you can ask of a kid. I love that he's looking more confident. He should. He's that good. ALREADY.
Greg is not a great jumper. Though I'd put my money on his vertical over Julian's. Julian didn't just pop up on the oop shot. That was all the vertical he has. And JV looked like a changed man tonight. Granted it was against lesser opponents but the dude sporting the Nino Brown haircut was a solid player and a much better matchup for Greg and Julian than we saw against Lafayette.
Also a good test against a team that likes to run on offense and catch you in transition. That's part of why I think you saw JV getting more rest which is great. We need that conditioning. Great scheduling I think. JT3 knows we need the work on boarding, perimeter defense and transition defense and the schedule, while soft so far, has allowed the team to focus on exactly those things. That being said, our focus on our previously (read: last year's) horrible rebounding has hurt our perimeter D due to all of the extra bodies crashing. I think we can live with that as a mindset to start a game and adjust to teams that will only bomb 3's (I'm looking at you Dook).
Chris looked great tonight. Great decisions. Nice dimes. Phenomenal shooting. Less back sidespin on his shot tonight and it made a huge difference. He's obviously been working on his mechanics and it opens up the interior in a huge way when the opponent has to worry about him from deep AND slashing.
Austin has been rock-solid and continues to be. His one blow-by layup and the layuip after his shot fake were exactly what we liked about him his freshman year and those elements are back yet better. LOVE IT. Add to that that he's knocking down 3's like a madman and he's becoming what we all hoped.
We finally got to see some Benimon but not enough to comment I don't think. He hustles and seems to know where to be is all I can say. I'm glad to see him back in the lineup and, with any luck, he'll get enough reps to adjust to the speed of the college game and be a solid bench guy when league play gets in full swing.
Vee got some extra minutes today which was great. Every minute we can give him is an investment in a better team. I'm pleasantly surprised by his handle. Not really concerned about the passing mistakes as he's just adjusting to the college game. I can easily see him breaking presses on the dribble. The one criticism I would have is he has to cut out that posing crap when shooting 3's (around 13:20 in the second). I really like what I've seen so far though. He's another guy that seems like he's got a lot of potential and will be able to play a significant role sooner rather than later. And that brings me back to Jason Clark. He's the perfect type of player at the perfect time for the freshman that we have. He's a guy that we all saw good things from in larger and larger spurts last year and can tell the guys a year behind him how to improve.
In short, I love this squad. LOVE it. The guys are playing with energy. They're playing like they like playinig the game and it's great to watch. HOYA SAXA!
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