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Post by Boz on Nov 18, 2009 16:31:34 GMT -5
Is anyone else following this today?
I can't watch, but I've been following online.
Apparently, Sahilovic (sp?) got booted by the refs and the Bosnia fans have gone nutters.
One of the linesmen got hit in the head by something thrown from the crowd. He is -- in the words of Jim Ross -- "busted open."
Looking forward to seeing highlights of this later.
PS - Go Ireland! Screw them French!
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Post by hifigator on Nov 18, 2009 17:02:58 GMT -5
in the words of Jim Ross -- "busted open."
so, in the words of Gordon Solie, he's wearing a "crimson mask" ...
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Post by Jack on Nov 18, 2009 17:37:28 GMT -5
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Post by FLHoya on Nov 18, 2009 18:15:58 GMT -5
Hoooooooooo boy! That's a non-call that will be talked about years and years from now. Would not be surprised if Martin Hansson--who was selected to officiate the Confederations Cup Final this summer--isn't making a return trip to South Africa in 2010 over that mistake.
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Post by redskins12820 on Nov 18, 2009 18:42:39 GMT -5
Hoooooooooo boy! That's a non-call that will be talked about years and years from now. Would not be surprised if Martin Hansson--who was selected to officiate the Confederations Cup Final this summer--isn't making a return trip to South Africa in 2010 over that mistake. Yeah that was about as blatant of a hand-ball as you can imagine. Although in his defense, his view may have been screened by the 3-4 Ireland defenders. Still, bad to see the game decided on a cheap goal like that.
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Post by Boz on Nov 18, 2009 18:45:00 GMT -5
That was ridiculous. I was following it online, and the live blogger was an Ireland fan, so I wasn't sure how blatant it was....
....then I saw the highlight!
MON DIEU!! Talk about your Hand of God.
He handballed it TWICE!!! Once to keep it in play, then a second, palming action to direct the ball so he could feed it in for the header. I know sometimes they'll look the other way if it was unintentional or a glancing blow, but there is no possible way that Henry's action was unintentional.
Unbelievable A) that it was not caught when it happened and B) that, in 2009, FIFA (or any other governing body) does not have any mechanism to deal with things like this.
Sucks that Ireland had to go out like that. Sucks that France gets to go through like that.
Also sucks that the Russians will be buying tickets to South Africa, but glad that Portugal got through. Still haven't seen any highlights of the Bosnian fans yet.
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Post by Jack on Nov 18, 2009 19:48:27 GMT -5
Saw a replay myself, simply galling. Plus France had two men offsides on the play. This must spark outrage over the lack of replay in soccer.
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Post by The Stig on Nov 18, 2009 21:33:43 GMT -5
Saw a replay myself, simply galling. Plus France had two men offsides on the play. This must spark outrage over the lack of replay in soccer. My thoughts exactly. Odds that we have some form of video replay (at least for goals) by South Africa? I know it's not traditional, but soccer's basically the last major sport out there that doesn't use some form of official video replay. Baseball, basketball, football, rugby, tennis, racing, hockey, and even cricket use replay.
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Post by redskins12820 on Nov 18, 2009 23:08:52 GMT -5
Saw a replay myself, simply galling. Plus France had two men offsides on the play. This must spark outrage over the lack of replay in soccer. My thoughts exactly. Odds that we have some form of video replay (at least for goals) by South Africa? I know it's not traditional, but soccer's basically the last major sport out there that doesn't use some form of official video replay. Baseball, basketball, football, rugby, tennis, racing, hockey, and even cricket use replay. The only thing they could do it for is if the ball crosses the goal line. You can't stop play to do it for off-sides calls or hand balls
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Post by njhoya06 on Nov 19, 2009 0:47:49 GMT -5
My thoughts exactly. Odds that we have some form of video replay (at least for goals) by South Africa? I know it's not traditional, but soccer's basically the last major sport out there that doesn't use some form of official video replay. Baseball, basketball, football, rugby, tennis, racing, hockey, and even cricket use replay. The only thing they could do it for is if the ball crosses the goal line. You can't stop play to do it for off-sides calls or hand balls I think they could review goals to see if they were good, but you couldn't remedy situations when players were called off when they were actually still onside. It would be weird though. Wonder if it would lead to a situation where linesmen would be apt to give players the benefit of the doubt. I'm not sure how far I'd want to go with that, to be honest. Aren't they trying out a system in the Europa League this year where there's an official stationed behind each goal? If there was something like that in place today, Henry would have seen a card for his blatant cheating instead of getting his country in the World Cup.
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Post by The Stig on Nov 19, 2009 7:23:20 GMT -5
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Post by TigerHoya on Nov 21, 2009 22:15:33 GMT -5
so has anyone ever been to Momo's on U during soccer games?
I was there last weekend for a meeting (we picked there so I could watch the Clemson game after a suggestion from one of the guys in the meeting - since I was coming in on the Green line from Greenbelt.)
It got pretty wild with the Egyptian fans in there for their game with Algeria.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 22, 2009 1:19:23 GMT -5
Handball here wasn't even close. Strange that the French saw the "replay" kill their chances in the World Cup on the Zidane head butt. IIRC, the referees did not catch it originally but caught it from the "replay" on the Titantron.
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Post by The Stig on Nov 22, 2009 8:44:16 GMT -5
It wasn't a replay that doomed Zidane in 2006. One of the side officials saw the headbutt as it happened and called the ref over to tell him what happened.
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Post by redskins12820 on Nov 22, 2009 9:19:36 GMT -5
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Post by theexorcist on Nov 22, 2009 10:33:09 GMT -5
Saw a replay myself, simply galling. Plus France had two men offsides on the play. This must spark outrage over the lack of replay in soccer. My thoughts exactly. Odds that we have some form of video replay (at least for goals) by South Africa? I know it's not traditional, but soccer's basically the last major sport out there that doesn't use some form of official video replay. Baseball, basketball, football, rugby, tennis, racing, hockey, and even cricket use replay. The problem is that soccer's determined to use the continuous clock. Video replay usually takes a minute or two and stopping it would go against soccer's ethos. Not saying that there won't be pressure, but soccer needs to figure out how to reconcile this.
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Post by redskins12820 on Nov 22, 2009 14:54:25 GMT -5
My thoughts exactly. Odds that we have some form of video replay (at least for goals) by South Africa? I know it's not traditional, but soccer's basically the last major sport out there that doesn't use some form of official video replay. Baseball, basketball, football, rugby, tennis, racing, hockey, and even cricket use replay. The problem is that soccer's determined to use the continuous clock. Video replay usually takes a minute or two and stopping it would go against soccer's ethos. Not saying that there won't be pressure, but soccer needs to figure out how to reconcile this. That's not the problem at all. They could just add the time to the end of the half
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Post by kchoya on Nov 23, 2009 12:26:07 GMT -5
Hopefully Donovan will figure out by next summer that you're supposed to kick the ball under the bar, not over.
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Post by SFOHoya on Dec 3, 2009 5:08:25 GMT -5
World Cup draw is on Friday. More fodder for conversation... like FIFA using the October rankings (not November which would have put France in Group 1) to seed the teams in the draw. Also putting the hosts in Group 1 is a joke.
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Post by FLHoya on Dec 3, 2009 7:08:29 GMT -5
World Cup draw is on Friday. More fodder for conversation... like FIFA using the October rankings (not November which would have put France in Group 1) to seed the teams in the draw. Also putting the hosts in Group 1 is a joke. Honestly, if it were a choice right now between France and the Netherlands, I'd be much more scared of the men in Orange (get to test that theory out in March, since the USMNT are supposed to play the Dutch in a Friendly). If France had been in Pot 1, they'd have been clearly the most desirable draw for me after South Africa. The host nation is always in Pot 1--think of it this year as a 1 in 8 chance of hitting the lottery. Both Japan and South Korea were in Pot 1 in 2002, and they both made the Round of 16 or further. South Africa ain't much, but you never know what home field advantage can do for ya.
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