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Post by hifigator on Sept 28, 2009 16:43:28 GMT -5
why should the boilermakers have won? thats like saying notre dame should have beat michigan just b/c it was a close game that came down the last second i dont get it In fairness, I only saw about the last 5 minutes, but in Notre Dame's last 2 possessions, they got 2 very, very favorable calls from the stripes. Given that it took almost everything that the Irish had and almost all the time in the game for Notre Dame to finally score, and on 4th down no less, I think it is a fair assessment to say that Purdue "should have" won. But I agree that people routinely say that "so and so should have won" anytime the game is close at the end. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On a totally unrelated note, things getting a little heated in Lobo country: sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4512399
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Post by kchoya on Sept 28, 2009 17:46:31 GMT -5
why should the boilermakers have won? thats like saying notre dame should have beat michigan just b/c it was a close game that came down the last second i dont get it On a totally unrelated note, things getting a little heated in Lobo country: sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4512399In other news, Al Davis is on the phone with Coach Locksley's agent as we speak.
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Post by kchoya on Sept 28, 2009 18:06:52 GMT -5
word is urban cryer stayed with timmy in the hospital. they spooned all night while watching 'the notebook' on a loop. So what will Rich Fraud and Forcier be watching as Rodriquez nurses him back to health this week? Mystic Pizza? Titanic?
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Post by washingtonhoya on Sept 28, 2009 22:54:08 GMT -5
word is urban cryer stayed with timmy in the hospital. they spooned all night while watching 'the notebook' on a loop. So what will Rich Fraud and Forcier be watching as Rodriquez nurses him back to health this week? Mystic Pizza? Titanic? Red Dawn, and you know it. (We miss you, Patrick!) So that UM-IU game was troubling to watch, and not just from the Forcier injury angle, although he's allegedly okay to play this week against Little Brother Sparty, but Robinson will probably see more of the field. Anyway, egads is this a defense on the precipice. Spread n' shred is actually fun to watch with the right personnel running it unlike last year, but if the defensive performance against IU is indicative of its play against Big 10 opponents, hopefully they can pick up the fifth win against MSU to lock in bowl eligibility after Delaware St. before taking on Penn St, @wisconsin, and Ohio St.
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Post by hifigator on Sept 28, 2009 23:24:35 GMT -5
So what will Rich Fraud and Forcier be watching as Rodriquez nurses him back to health this week? Mystic Pizza? Titanic? Red Dawn, and you know it. (We miss you, Patrick!) So that UM-IU game was troubling to watch, and not just from the Forcier injury angle, although he's allegedly okay to play this week against Little Brother Sparty, but Robinson will probably see more of the field. Anyway, egads is this a defense on the precipice. Spread n' shred is actually fun to watch with the right personnel running it unlike last year, but if the defensive performance against IU is indicative of its play against Big 10 opponents, hopefully they can pick up the fifth win against MSU to lock in bowl eligibility after Delaware St. before taking on Penn St, @wisconsin, and Ohio St. Ok, ... I'm sure there's a joke here somewhere -- and I meant another one ... just to preempt the litany of jokes I have subjected myself to with that comment. In all seriousness though, I'm sure there's an "in" joke there. We all know that 6 wins lock in eligibility. Maybe it was just a typo using "fifth," but somehow I think I might be missing something -- oops, another opportunity for sarcasm. But I've just got to know! I can only hope that curiosity hasn't gotten the best of me. As for the Indiana game, I didn't watch anything but the highlights. But for those that did, is there any chance that maybe Indiana is at least a decent opponent? I know they came in 3-0 and almost pulled off the upset. Then again ... it is "Big" 10 football. Similarly, does anyone think that USF might be at least "decent?" Not that knocking off FSU is any mighty feat. In fact, Jacksonville St. almost did it just 2 weeks ago, but then FSU "righted" the ship, pounding BYU in Provo. "Obviously" BYU is a really good team ... aren't they? They beat "mighty" Oklahoma in Texas!!!! In all seriousness, I did think that BYU at least put themselves on the radar with that win. With Miami beating FSU in Tally, I wondered if Miami might be "for real." Then FSU wallops the Cougars ... and Miami beats a Ga. Tech team that thoroughly killed them last season. Wow ... Miami must be for real. But then Miami loses and looks very bad doing so, albeit in the rain and against a quality opponent, in Va. Tech. But then the Nolies follow up their feeble showing against Jacksonville St. a couple of weeks ago by losing to those USF Bulls. Getting me back to my earlier question ... are the USF Bulls at least decent? Prior to FSU, they were 3-0, but had run the "gauntlet" of Wafford, Western Ky. and Charleston Southern. I guess the short version is that this is certainly a strange season already.
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Post by RDF on Sept 28, 2009 23:26:42 GMT -5
Notre Dame's "progress" under Weis
1. Michigan State wide open WR is overthrown in endzone--and Irish get gift from mediocre Michigan State team.
2. Purdue ganks away a game---same Boilers who lost previous week at home to Northern Illinois.
How is this progress? Win column--and I for one hope to high hell Weis continues at ND--he's a clown and that program is spinning it's wheels with him. As long as he continues to play close games against mediocre Big 10 programs---he's not going to get them back to top.
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Post by hifigator on Sept 28, 2009 23:32:08 GMT -5
RDF, I'm not exactly sure who you are arguing with here. As best as I can tell, there's not a single Notre Dame fan here and I haven't exactly seen posters "beating down the doors," trying to trumpet the mighty triumphs of the Irish recently ... aside from a tongue in cheek reply to my comment about Purdue "should" have won the game. As for it being "progress," I guess it is to a degree -- much in the same way that Weis dieting and dropping 5 pounds would also be "progress."
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Post by washingtonhoya on Sept 28, 2009 23:46:11 GMT -5
Red Dawn, and you know it. (We miss you, Patrick!) So that UM-IU game was troubling to watch, and not just from the Forcier injury angle, although he's allegedly okay to play this week against Little Brother Sparty, but Robinson will probably see more of the field. Anyway, egads is this a defense on the precipice. Spread n' shred is actually fun to watch with the right personnel running it unlike last year, but if the defensive performance against IU is indicative of its play against Big 10 opponents, hopefully they can pick up the fifth win against MSU to lock in bowl eligibility after Delaware St. before taking on Penn St, @wisconsin, and Ohio St. Ok, ... I'm sure there's a joke here somewhere -- and I meant another one ... just to preempt the litany of jokes I have subjected myself to with that comment. In all seriousness though, I'm sure there's an "in" joke there. We all know that 6 wins lock in eligibility. Maybe it was just a typo using "fifth," but somehow I think I might be missing something -- oops, another opportunity for sarcasm. But I've just got to know! I can only hope that curiosity hasn't gotten the best of me. As for the Indiana game, I didn't watch anything but the highlights. But for those that did, is there any chance that maybe Indiana is at least a decent opponent? I know they came in 3-0 and almost pulled off the upset. Then again ... it is "Big" 10 football. Similarly, does anyone think that USF might be at least "decent?" Not that knocking off FSU is any mighty feat. In fact, Jacksonville St. almost did it just 2 weeks ago, but then FSU "righted" the ship, pounding BYU in Provo. "Obviously" BYU is a really good team ... aren't they? They beat "mighty" Oklahoma in Texas!!!! Sorry, should have slammed the back of my head against a lineman's knee to get down to explain it on your level. I'm assuming that Delaware St. is a likely automatic sixth win, if UM can beat MSU for win #5 this weekend. (JOKES ABOUT MICHIGAN VS. I-AA OPPONENTS GO HERE LET'S ALL RELIVE THE HORROR WOO THAT WAS FUN NOW IT'S OUT OF OUR SYSTEM) Indiana came in 3-0 after beating (I-AA) Eastern Kentucky 19-13, W Michigan 23-19, and Akron 38-21. All of their DTs are freshmen or OL converts, the LB corps was about ~average by Big Ten standards, and the secondary was terrible in 2008 and didn't look to get much better. Outside of their legitimately good DEs, there's not a lot there to be afraid of defense. Their run game, out of the pistol, was 65th best in the country after three games against the aforementioned opponents. The pass game is thoroughly meh. There is a chance that Indiana is a decent opponent, but the odds are pretty well stacked against it.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Sept 29, 2009 6:09:14 GMT -5
word is urban cryer stayed with timmy in the hospital. they spooned all night while watching 'the notebook' on a loop. So what will Rich Fraud and Forcier be watching as Rodriquez nurses him back to health this week? Mystic Pizza? Titanic? hifi's lapdog strikes again. btw, forcier came back in after being injured and threw the game winning TD. the michigan defense is a mess. no depth. several walk-ons on the two deep. the line is ok but gets no pass rush other than graham. ezeh and mouton have been horrible at ILB. steve brown and roh have been good on the outside. warren has been great, but the rest of the secondary is a disaster. too many mental breakdowns. this team is still a work in progress. they could beat anyone or lose to anyone. i wouldn't be shocked if they were 5-3 after the psu game.
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Post by hifigator on Sept 29, 2009 11:45:22 GMT -5
washington wrote:
Sorry, should have slammed the back of my head against a lineman's knee to get down to explain it on your level. I'm assuming that Delaware St. is a likely automatic sixth win, if UM can beat MSU for win #5 this weekend.
I'll disregard the classless and tasteless, not to mention unsuccessful, attempt at humor. I apologize for not having all Big 10 teams' schedules memorize. You wrote: hopefully they can pick up the fifth win against MSU to lock in bowl eligibility after Delaware St. That could be interpreted two ways. I understood the phrase "to lock in bowl eligibility" to describe the "fifth win against MSU" phrase, not the "after Delewars St." Your wording was certainly confusing at best. In any case, it's no big deal, but I certainly didn't give you any reason to question my intelligence and a need for you to get down to my level. Be careful when you throw out such insults. They really tend to backfire when you're wrong.
As for Indiana, once again, I apologize for not having Big 10 teams' schedules memorized. I honestly couldn't have told you a single team that Indiana had played, but I did notice that they were 3-0 going in. Thus my question of " is there any chance that maybe Indiana is at least a decent opponent?" to those who watched the game and are far more familiar with the teams.
KC wrote:
word is urban cryer stayed with timmy in the hospital. they spooned all night while watching 'the notebook' on a loop.
I know that was meant as a joke, but FYI, there was an article in the paper today and they actually talked football and watched a football game at the hospital. There was no mention of spooning or the Notebook.
Lastly, I just heard on the radio that Mike Locksley, New Mexico's coach who got in the fight with one of his assistants, is now facing a lawsuit claiming age discrimination as well as being charged with sexual assault. I have seen an article yet, but if true, that's a hell of a lot of baggage for one coach, let alone at one time.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Sept 29, 2009 13:04:12 GMT -5
I watched most of the Indiana-Michigan game last Saturday, and I think the Wolverine fans are over-reacting a bit. Don't forget:
1. Michigan is 4-0. They have a good shot at moving to 5-0 in East Lansing this weekend. How many undefeated teams are left in the Top 25? Embrace the zero in the loss column.
2. The Western Michigan team Indiana beat is pretty good, and beat another Big Ten team (Michigan State) earlier this season. The wins over Akron and EKU aren't great, but they're wins nonetheless.
3. I thought Indiana's defense was poor, but I thought the Hoosier offense looked pretty good. That may have something to do with UM (they've allowed too many points to every opponent save Western Michigan), but IU has a QB with an accurate arm and good receivers to match. I don't know if the Hoosier running game is as good as it looked last Saturday in the Big House -- Michigan is usually better up front and at the LB positions, I thought those guys were pushed around a bit.
Bottom line: Indiana's not going to Pasadena, but I think there's a bowl team in Bloomington this year. Not a great win for Michigan, and plenty of room for improvement, but I don't think there's cause for great concern yet.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Sept 29, 2009 13:15:07 GMT -5
central michigan beat sparty, not western.
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Post by Boz on Sept 29, 2009 13:16:08 GMT -5
I am not a die-hard Michigan fan, so I might not be in the group you are telling to calm down. They are my favorite college football team, I watch every game and root hard for them, but I don't die when they lose the same way I die if Georgetown basketball loses.
So, I might not be the best test case, but my opinion is any win for this team this year is a good win. You don't go from your lowest point back right to the top. Rich Rodriguez has got the offense in very good shape (still think they need better receivers though), and that is great.
The defense is just plain not good this year. That's not panic, that's not overreaction, it's just what it is. They don't have a ton of great talent on defense and they are going to get beat up in a lot of games. I expect the defense will continue to improve though, and they will make some plays to help win some games. But Michigan's success this year is going to be due more to their offensive ability than to shutting teams down on defense.
Last year they couldn't do anything. This year at least they can move the ball and score. Within the next couple of years, I expect them to be better on both sides of the ball.
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Post by hifigator on Sept 29, 2009 14:32:43 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Sept 29, 2009 19:57:01 GMT -5
Gosh, I don't know. I thought Washingtonhoya's reference to Michigan's bowl eligibility was as clear as could be. Maybe it's just me.
As for Locksley, I have a hunch he will be relieved of his duties shortly (give or take an hour or two).
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Sept 29, 2009 20:56:27 GMT -5
central michigan beat sparty, not western. Sorry, too many directional colleges on the pleasant peninsula -- I tend to confuse them easily. Regardless of IU's schedule, I don't think they're a terrible team, or even a bad team. The Hoosiers will win three more games before the end of the season and go to one of the 10,000 Big Ten associated bowl games. ______________________________________ Week 5 Picks for Games That Matter: North Carolina over U. Va. in the South's Oldest Rivalry Wisconsin over Minnesota for Paul Bunyan's Axe Michigan over Michigan State for the Paul Bunyan-Governor of Michigan Trophy Cincinnati crushes Miami (OH) in the Battle for the Bell for (you guessed it) the Victory Bell Navy over Air Force in a Commander In Chief Trophy game LSU squeaks by UGA Florida State over BC UNLV over Nevada in the Battle for Nevada for the Fremont Cannon Tulsa over Rice for the Williams Trophy TCU over SMU for the Iron Skillet in a closer-than-expected game Oklahoma squeaks past Miami Cal upsets SC
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Post by kchoya on Sept 30, 2009 12:14:36 GMT -5
KC wrote: word is urban cryer stayed with timmy in the hospital. they spooned all night while watching 'the notebook' on a loop. Wait, am I hifi's lapdog or not? I'm confused.
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Post by RDF on Oct 3, 2009 23:06:18 GMT -5
Brent Venables takes over as sole Defensive Coordinator--Oklahoma is 16-14 outside of the state of Oklahoma. How in the **** does this guy/program get passes and allowed to ruin BCS games??? Forgot to add that if I heard Brad Nessler on ESPN and Brent Musberger on ABC say something about that ********** jerkoff Favre during a COLLEGE TELECAST and NOT during the promo, I will
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Post by kghoya on Oct 3, 2009 23:21:02 GMT -5
i thought unc was supposed to be good.
they suck. maybe even consider putting in the kid thats from down the street from me at qb...renner
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Post by kchoya on Oct 4, 2009 10:52:06 GMT -5
I guess RichRod's cuddling didn't help all that much this week.
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