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Post by The Stig on Jul 30, 2009 20:04:36 GMT -5
Best: The end of the 2007 F1 season. Lewis Hamilton looks to have the title wrapped up with 2 races to go. Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen is 3rd in the championship. He still has a mathematical chance of winning, but it looks to be all over. Raikkonen needs to win the last two races, while all Hamilton needs is one 5th place to eliminate Raikkonen. Spain's Fernando Alonso is 2nd in the championship. Hamilton has a Bill Buckner moment and slides off the road while trying to make a pitstop in the penultimate race, and car problems drop him to the back of the field in the last race. Raikkonen beats Alonso to win both races, and Hamilton can only recover to 7th in the last race. Raikkonen wins the championship by one point over Hamilton and Alonso.
The Buckner moment: The Buckner moment, hilarious Spanish commentary (Hamilton and Alonso hated each other, so the Spanish commentators hate Hamilton): Hamilton's car problems in the last race: Same problems, onboard: The finish:
Worst moment: Hamilton gets his revenge in gut-wrenching fashion last year. Ferrari's Felipe Massa needs to win the final race of the season, with Hamilton 6th or lower to win the World Championship. Massa is Brazilian, and the race is in Brazil. Massa dominates the race, and a late rainshower drops Hamilton to 6th. But at the last corner of the race, the 4th place driver runs wide, and Hamilton takes 5th place and the championship.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jul 30, 2009 20:11:53 GMT -5
I'm not a big F1 guy, but curious, what do you have against Lewis Hamilton?
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The Stig
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Post by The Stig on Jul 30, 2009 20:20:47 GMT -5
I just like Ferrari, and in those two seasons Hamilton was battling against Ferrari drivers. Both those finales revolved around what Hamilton did. Simply winning the race wasn't enough for the Ferrari driver - Hamilton also had to screw up/have bad luck in order for them to win the title. In 2007 that happened, in 2008 it very nearly happened but the luck swung back to Hamilton at the very last second.
Hamilton's team (McLaren) is also Ferrari's traditional rival, so the joy of beating them and the pain of losing to them is even greater.
That said, I have nothing against Hamilton as a person. He's a bit of a PR robot, but he's a good guy. He doesn't deserve a lot of the hate that comes his way (mostly from Spanish Alonso fans).
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Post by whatmaroon on Jul 30, 2009 21:08:16 GMT -5
I don't know how you could have seen where his hand was during the play since he was about 30 yards away. The guy who was standing 3 feet away didn't make any move for his flag. Odd The call was made by the field judge who was standing in the back corner of the end zone. That's a heck of a lot closer than 30 yards, and he was also the guy who had the best look at the play-the guy on the goalline was looking down the line. for your viewing pleasure.
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Post by hifigator on Jul 31, 2009 0:56:31 GMT -5
yeah ... yeah .... yeah ... just like Jabar Gaffney's catch in Knoxville in 2000 ... NEVER IN DOUBT!
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Post by jgalt on Jul 31, 2009 7:40:40 GMT -5
Favorite: Ripken breaking the Iron Man record and running around the field to a standing ovation that seemed to last forever.
Leas Favorite: The day Olaf Kolzig was not resigned by the Caps. Most of you wont care about that or even know what I am talking about, but Olie was the Caps for me. He had been with the team since 89 (almost my entire life). He was the only bright spot on a team that was so horrible for so many years. Knowing that he will retire (doubtful he will play this season) with out a cup makes me sad. He will always be my all time favorite Cap.
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Post by theexorcist on Jul 31, 2009 7:49:09 GMT -5
Favorite: Ripken breaking the Iron Man record and running around the field to a standing ovation that seemed to last forever. Leas Favorite: The day Olaf Kolzig was not resigned by the Caps. Most of you wont care about that or even know what I am talking about, but Olie was the Caps for me. He had been with the team since 89 (almost my entire life). He was the only bright spot on a team that was so horrible for so many years. Knowing that he will retire (doubtful he will play this season) with out a cup makes me sad. He will always be my all time favorite Cap. Any good NHL fan knows Olie the Goalie.
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Post by jgalt on Jul 31, 2009 8:22:11 GMT -5
Any good NHL fan knows Olie the Goalie. Yes but we are few and far between. As a corollary to this thread, are you guys more affected by the statistical aspects of sports (like losing a big game) or the emotional aspects (like Lou Gehrig's Luckiest man speech). Its the emotional stuff that are the worst parts to me, and the huge accomplishments that i like the most.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Jul 31, 2009 8:29:57 GMT -5
Most favorite: The moment I read the post in which hifigator announced he would never post on HoyaTalk again. Least "favorit": The moment I read hifigator's first post on HoyaTalk. What, hifi hasn't retired from HoyaTalk? It must've just been a great dream. I'll bite: Least favorite: The San Francisco Giants choking away a 5-0 lead in Game 6 of the 2002 World Series. They go on to lose game 6 and 7 and the World Series. Was a senior in high school at the time, and had friends over at my place for my 18th birthday, hoping for additional reason to celebrate. Did not go to school the Monday after we lost game 7 because I was still sick to my stomach. Most favorite: The entire weekend of the 2007 East Regional in East Rutherford, NJ. Was my senior year at Georgetown, took the Hoya Blue bus, and the student section in the upper deck was packed and loud. Jeff's late game heroics against Vandy sent us into a frenzy. Then the comeback vs. UNC, Jon's 3 to tie it, and the beatdown in OT for Georgetown's first Final Four since I was an infant. Moving down to the lower deck to watch the players and coaches cut down the nets, and chanting "We Are Georgetown" with JT III. It was chaos in the parking lot before the game with all the Georgetown fans, and it was absolute pandemonium after.
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Post by Boz on Jul 31, 2009 8:37:44 GMT -5
I don't know how you could have seen where his hand was during the play since he was about 30 yards away. The guy who was standing 3 feet away didn't make any move for his flag. Odd The call was made by the field judge who was standing in the back corner of the end zone. That's a heck of a lot closer than 30 yards, and he was also the guy who had the best look at the play-the guy on the goalline was looking down the line. for your viewing pleasure. And you think this video supports your case? Weak call. All there is to it. On the other hand, I won't say "inexcusable" call either, but very, very weak. Lake Placid 1980 will always be my favorite sports moment. Always. If When the Hoyas win another national title, that might replace it, but I don't know. A top recent moment? March 10, 2007. The game itself really wasn't that interesting, but basking in the afterglow inside MSG will stay with me for a long, long time. Worst moment? March 9, 1996. And I refuse to speak any more about that.
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Post by theexorcist on Jul 31, 2009 8:49:21 GMT -5
Any good NHL fan knows Olie the Goalie. Yes but we are few and far between. As a corollary to this thread, are you guys more affected by the statistical aspects of sports (like losing a big game) or the emotional aspects (like Lou Gehrig's Luckiest man speech). Its the emotional stuff that are the worst parts to me, and the huge accomplishments that i like the most. Emotional, definitely, at least for good moments. It's impossible for me to take the Duke game or the East Rutherford weekend apart from the fact that, a few years prior, one of Georgetown's administrators said that making the NCAA tournament every year wasn't a reasonable goal - during which I became so disheartend by Georgetown that I rooted for them to miss the BET to end the pain faster ( shameless plug - defenseclapclap.blogspot.com has my full recap of the East Rutherford adventure ). Another fun sports memory is my high school winning the state semifinals by knocking out the two-time defending state champion on a last-second shot - while it was awesome, it doesn't have the same enjoyment factor because there was no backstory. This is also the reason why hifi's question about bad sports moments is flawed. Unless you're going with the type of loss that Bill Simmons calls the stomach punch - where it's all over in a half-second - losses almost always drag out. I will say that I watched the 2009 NCAA Men's Hockey championship two rows back from the Miami goal, and the RedHawks went from being about to ready to win their FIRST championship in ANY sport to having Boston U tie the game in the last minute and then poleaxing them in overtime. Had I been a Miami fan, I might have committed seppuku.
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Post by hifigator on Jul 31, 2009 10:37:19 GMT -5
exorcist wrote:
This is also the reason why hifi's question about bad sports moments is flawed.
Huh? That actually illustrates the point. Different factors get to us differently. Like I said, the more important the game, the more the big picture reflection on it will be. When you win the ultimate Championship, then the positive memories will be all that more important. But that doesn't add or take away from the emotion of the moment. And it's my theory that what elicits the strongest emotions at the time is the drama and uncertainty. That's why, even while beating my hated enemy in Florida State for all the marbles, and in humbling fashion 52-20, there still wasn't the rush that there was in Mike Miller last second heroics against Butler. And that was "just" a round of 32 game. Hell, even the miracle 4th down touchdown to beat Kentucky when they had the game "won" was more dramatic and emotional -- even though the game really meant pretty much nothing.
As for the question about "sports related" but not "sports" moments like Lou Gherig's famous words, I totally agree and I will add a couple more: Jimmy V. Don't Give Up is absolutely awesome to this day. I get teary eyed everytime I hear it. On a somewhat more personal level, I would put Tim Tebow's press conference after we lost to Ole Miss last year as soliciting a very similar type of emotion.
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Post by The Stig on Jul 31, 2009 11:24:10 GMT -5
Well, if you want inspirational, look at Alex Zanardi. He didn't get up and give an inspirational speech, he went out and inspired people with his actions.
Zanardi was a 2-time champion in the CART racing series here in the US. In 2001 suffered a horrifying accident during a race in Germany. Both of his legs were ripped off, and two arteries were cut. The doctors managed to stop the bleeding, but he had lost 70% of his blood. His heart stopped 3 times on the way to the hospital, but the doctors revived him every time. Somehow he managed to survive, but both legs were amputated above the knee.
Zanardi was my favorite driver in racing even before the accident, but I didn't put his accident as my least favorite sports moment because what followed was so unbelievable. It's hard to put into words, so I'll just let Zanardi tell the story in this great interview (in 7 parts):
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Post by hifigator on Jul 31, 2009 15:01:34 GMT -5
Oh man, how could I forget one awful moment. It was late October in 1980. Georgia was ranked #1 and was undefeated. We had them on the ropes and with under a minute left, they were in a 4th and 20 or so from their own 7 yardline. Buck Belue is forced out of the pocket. Right as he nears the sideline he slings the ball back in the middle of the field across his body. One of the Gator defenders slips down and the other is a step behind Lindsay Scott. Scott catches the ball crossing back to the far sidelines and then it's a foot race. Unfortunately, Lindsay won. They win the game and finish the year undefeated and win the National Championship. But we had 'em. Damn, that one was bad.
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Post by mchoya on Jul 31, 2009 15:21:32 GMT -5
2007 NFC Championship: Favorite: Corey Webster's interception leading to Tynes making the FG. When I heard the news that Favre was retiring in 2008, I remembered that his last pass was the INT to Corey. It made me very happy. Toss-up for greatest: June 14, 1994 or Super Bowl XLI The worst: The 1997 Eastern Conference Finals. The Rangers had Messier and Gretzky, and I thought they would win a Cup with them. Plus, that series was the first playoff series that I watched where my team lost in a gut-wrenching fashion to a hated rival (I was 8 at the time).
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Post by derhoya on Jul 31, 2009 22:49:39 GMT -5
Most favorite: The entire weekend of the 2007 East Regional in East Rutherford, NJ. Was my senior year at Georgetown, took the Hoya Blue bus, and the student section in the upper deck was packed and loud. Jeff's late game heroics against Vandy sent us into a frenzy. Then the comeback vs. UNC, Jon's 3 to tie it, and the beatdown in OT for Georgetown's first Final Four since I was an infant. Moving down to the lower deck to watch the players and coaches cut down the nets, and chanting "We Are Georgetown" with JT III. It was chaos in the parking lot before the game with all the Georgetown fans, and it was absolute pandemonium after. hellllllll yaaaaaa. i was so plastered but enjoyed every minute of it!!! the good luck bunny worked!
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Post by Joe Hoya on Aug 1, 2009 14:09:32 GMT -5
MC, there was nothing gut-wrenching about how the Rangers lost the 1997 Conference Finals. The Flyers won that series in five, as they should have. They were a much better team.
I will limit my response to "moments" I've seen in person:
Worst: Gerry McNamara's buzzer beater in 2004. Devastating.
Best: October 29, 2008. After Eric Hinske waved at that 0-2 slider from Brad Lidge, being a sports fan would never be the same.
(And that one is never going to change. Ever.)
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Post by mchoya on Aug 1, 2009 16:26:01 GMT -5
Joe, that's probably true. It still was a sucker punch at the time, though.
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Post by HoyaTejano on Aug 1, 2009 21:13:29 GMT -5
This is great: BEST moment ever: three moments tie -- 1st) Aikman-to-Harper in the 92 NFC CG, turns a 15-yard route into a game sealing moment, returns Cowboys to the promised land. 2) Memorial Day Miracle 1999 -- the single greatest shot in Spurs history. 3) From about 8 minutes to the end of OT, the 07 Regional Final. Many years of Georgetown in the wilderness ended, and when hope became reality.
WORST: The first quarter of the 1994 NFC CG in San Francisco, where Dallas promptly hands three turnovers to SF so it can build a 21-0 lead. What annoys me to no end is that despite all of that, the Cowboys were a single Deion Sanders pass interference penalty on Michael Irvin from being down just 38-35 with ample time in the 4th quarter. Also, if you don't remember and need reminding, go on youtube and find the last minute of the 81 NFC CG, AFTER the catch. Danny White hits a 30-yard LASER, in traffic, to Drew Pearson, and the only thing between DP, Danny White's reputation and Dallas in the Super Bowl against Cincy was Eric Wright's fingertips. On the next play, the Niners brought the blitz, and White fumbled away a chance for a game-winning field goal.
An honorable mention, sort of third-party moment is the Oilers' historic collapse against Buffalo. At some point in my life I figured God would reward us with an all-Texas Super Bowl, and Oilers-Cowboys back then would have had a fundamentally different feel than Texans-Cowboys would in the present day, for a lot of historical reasons. I started watching just as Carwell Gardner of the Bills scored to make it 35-10, and I'm thinking, Houston has no way of closing this game up with the Run-n-Shoot.
The ensuing moments were spectacular, in the way that seeing airplane crashes are spectacular.
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Post by hifigator on Aug 11, 2009 15:52:29 GMT -5
This is great: BEST moment ever: three moments tie -- 1st) Aikman-to-Harper in the 92 NFC CG, turns a 15-yard route into a game sealing moment, returns Cowboys to the promised land. 2) Memorial Day Miracle 1999 -- the single greatest shot in Spurs history. 3) From about 8 minutes to the end of OT, the 07 Regional Final. Many years of Georgetown in the wilderness ended, and when hope became reality. WORST: The first quarter of the 1994 NFC CG in San Francisco, where Dallas promptly hands three turnovers to SF so it can build a 21-0 lead. What annoys me to no end is that despite all of that, the Cowboys were a single Deion Sanders pass interference penalty on Michael Irvin from being down just 38-35 with ample time in the 4th quarter. Also, if you don't remember and need reminding, go on youtube and find the last minute of the 81 NFC CG, AFTER the catch. Danny White hits a 30-yard LASER, in traffic, to Drew Pearson, and the only thing between DP, Danny White's reputation and Dallas in the Super Bowl against Cincy was Eric Wright's fingertips. On the next play, the Niners brought the blitz, and White fumbled away a chance for a game-winning field goal. An honorable mention, sort of third-party moment is the Oilers' historic collapse against Buffalo. At some point in my life I figured God would reward us with an all-Texas Super Bowl, and Oilers-Cowboys back then would have had a fundamentally different feel than Texans-Cowboys would in the present day, for a lot of historical reasons. I started watching just as Carwell Gardner of the Bills scored to make it 35-10, and I'm thinking, Houston has no way of closing this game up with the Run-n-Shoot. The ensuing moments were spectacular, in the way that seeing airplane crashes are spectacular. Those are some excellent answers, by the way!
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