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Post by hifigator on Sept 29, 2009 14:38:26 GMT -5
After I had written off my Braves for the season, they have decided to make a race of it. And the scheduling is certainly working in their favor. They were at the Nationals last weekend and then finish the year with home series against the Marlins and then the Nationals again. While the Rockies have to finish the season on the road against the Dodgers. Let's go Braves! Let's cut that lead to 1 game tonight!
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Post by TBird41 on Sept 29, 2009 15:57:48 GMT -5
I think Mauer has already SEWN up the MVP. Looks like we're even. I'm sure it won't mean anything, but I'm pulling for the Twinkies (or, to mention the new team moniker I've provided to them, the Vampires). You'll have to explain Vampires. I think Mauer has too, but I could see him having a bad series against the Tigers and the Twins losing (which is really likely if he has a bad series) and having that held against him. Sports writers are obnoxiously stupid at almost all times. And--1 game back
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Post by hoyarooter on Sept 29, 2009 19:58:46 GMT -5
I think Mauer has already SEWN up the MVP. Looks like we're even. I'm sure it won't mean anything, but I'm pulling for the Twinkies (or, to mention the new team moniker I've provided to them, the Vampires). You'll have to explain Vampires. I think Mauer has too, but I could see him having a bad series against the Tigers and the Twins losing (which is really likely if he has a bad series) and having that held against him. Sports writers are obnoxiously stupid at almost all times. And--1 game back The only way to kill them is to drive a stake through their hearts. Not looking good in game 2. For a guy operating on fumes, Verlander is tough.
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Post by hifigator on Sept 30, 2009 12:34:08 GMT -5
Just when my Braves convinced me to seek out a sports bar ...
P.S. I HATE the friggin' Marlins! But "at least" Colorado won with walk off. GRRRR .... I have once again shut off my baseball TV for the winter.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 4, 2009 14:07:00 GMT -5
The Metrodome is currently being filled with the chant of "Let's go White Sox". Never thought I'd hear that
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 4, 2009 16:36:02 GMT -5
The only way to kill them is to drive a stake through their hearts. ;D ;D And this time, there's no coin flip. ;D ;D
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 5, 2009 11:38:29 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to receiving your thank you note. Not surprisingly, the Sox couldn't finish the deal yesterday (although they did make it interesting in the eighth inning). I think there were about a dozen times this year that they won the first two games of a three game series, only to fail to get the sweep. But four out of six isn't bad, and we put your guys in a position to determine their own fates.
Good luck to the Vampires.
The White Sox clearly underachieved this year. It happens. But the amazing thing about the Twins is that they never seem to underachieve. And they always seem to play well in September, and this year they did it for the most part without Morneau.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 5, 2009 11:39:35 GMT -5
Let's go Tigers! (Detroit, not LSU)
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 6, 2009 20:06:17 GMT -5
I've been following the playoff game off and on via computer. This game is epic.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 6, 2009 20:10:24 GMT -5
I've been following the playoff game off and on via computer. This game is epic. Yes.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 6, 2009 20:50:55 GMT -5
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by hifigator on Oct 7, 2009 10:19:33 GMT -5
And so, the Mets season has finally come to a merciful end. What? That wasn't the Detroit Mets? Could've fooled me.
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Post by kchoya on Oct 7, 2009 11:06:56 GMT -5
I thought the pitch hit Inge. Too bad the ump forgot his glasses.
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 7, 2009 11:31:20 GMT -5
According to the article about the game in today's paper, the pitch did appear to graze Inge's uniform. Too bad something like that had to occur.
And what other team but the Twins could get the tying and winning RBIs from guys hitting around a combined .200? How typically Twin/Vampire of them.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 7, 2009 12:15:26 GMT -5
I thought the pitch hit Inge. Too bad the ump forgot his glasses. The pitch hit Inge's baggy jersey, barely. If I'm the umpire, there's no freaking way I call that ever, much less with the bases loaded in Game 163. I'm generally the rules are the rules guy, but I'm glad the game was actually decided by something more than whether Brandon Inge tucked in his shirt enough.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 7, 2009 12:25:47 GMT -5
I'm with you on that one SF. I wanted Detroit to win, so from that perspective, it "should have been called," and a run would have come in. BUT, I understand the difference in intent between the college and pro rules. In college, the batter simply has to stay in the batter's box. He doesn't need to make any attempt to get out of the way. In MLB, the batter is supposed to make a reasonable effort to get out of the way. Now technically, if the batter does make the effort, then the ball grazing a jersey is considered an HBP, but I think it's pretty obvious what how the rule is attempting to define the play.
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Post by Buckets on Oct 7, 2009 12:48:38 GMT -5
I thought the pitch hit Inge. Too bad the ump forgot his glasses. The pitch hit Inge's baggy jersey, barely. If I'm the umpire, there's no freaking way I call that ever, much less with the bases loaded in Game 163. I'm generally the rules are the rules guy, but I'm glad the game was actually decided by something more than whether Brandon Inge tucked in his shirt enough. Agree. Turning a little bit when your jersey is that loose does not constitute an attempt to avoid a thoroughly avoidable pitch.
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Post by tlphoya on Oct 7, 2009 14:16:04 GMT -5
Great game. That got me in the mood for playoff baseball. Unfortunately, the Tigers and Caps both lost within about a minute of each other last night.
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Post by kchoya on Oct 7, 2009 16:03:06 GMT -5
The pitch hit Inge's baggy jersey, barely. If I'm the umpire, there's no freaking way I call that ever, much less with the bases loaded in Game 163. I'm generally the rules are the rules guy, but I'm glad the game was actually decided by something more than whether Brandon Inge tucked in his shirt enough. Agree. Turning a little bit when your jersey is that loose does not constitute an attempt to avoid a thoroughly avoidable pitch. I don't think anyone can honestly say he "turned a little bit" and an ump certainly isn't going to say he didn't try to move out of the way. A rule is a rule. If the pitcher had balked, would you say the ump shouldn't have called it in that situation?
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Post by hifigator on Oct 7, 2009 16:20:45 GMT -5
Agree. Turning a little bit when your jersey is that loose does not constitute an attempt to avoid a thoroughly avoidable pitch. I don't think anyone can honestly say he "turned a little bit" and an ump certainly isn't going to say he didn't try to move out of the way. A rule is a rule. If the pitcher had balked, would you say the ump shouldn't have called it in that situation? I'm sitting on the fence on this one. As I said, I was pulling for Detroit, so I can't be perfectly objective. On one hand, the rule is that a pitched ball that hits a batter, including his uniform, is a HBP and the batter is entitled to first base, provided the batter satisfies the "attempt" to get out of the way clause. In this particular case, I don't think the ump saw/heard the ball catch the jersey. From the angles that I saw, I think the ball did graze the jersey. But as others have pointed out, the intent of the "getting out of the way" provision is to discourage "intentionally" getting hit. Having your jersey very loose like that and then rotating in such a manor as Inge did, could easily suggest that he was attempting to clip the jersey. I don't know, and I certainly couldn't say for sure either way. All that being said, I think the rule needs to be addressed. "Should" that have been a hit batter? I don't mean by the letter of the law. I mean, given what happened on the field, do we really think that such an incident "should" have walked in a run? Given that I wanted the Tigers to win, I was admittedly upset at the time. But trying to be objective, I don't think that I can honestly say that I want, or that any of us would want that to be the call. So again, I guess the rule needs to be ammended. But I agree with you, in as much that if you have a rule, you need to enforce it. On Edit: P.S. I forgot about your hypothetical. Don't begin to use the Balk rule to support a position. I think the balk rule is absurd. Let me rephrase that. I think the Balk rule wording is absurd. Some of it is fine: must be on the rubber ... front foot goes behind the rubber, must go home ... cannot fake to the plate or to first ... and other parts are quite clear cut. But the wording about stepping "directly" towards first is NEVER enforced. So either enforce it or change the wording. Lefties often get away with stepping at about the 4 o'clock position, if not even a bit more. Righties often don't really step much at all with the spin move. And could anything be worse than the "intentionally trying to deceive the runner" phrase? Come on. That's exactly what the pitcher is supposed to do. His goal is to get the runner diving back to first while he delivers to the plate. Lastly, the "discernable stop" is somewhat vague. Anytime you are moving in one direction and reverse directions, there was an instant at which you were "still." Obviously, that alone doesn't justify a "discernable" stop. But the point is what does? It's a bit over-simplified to suggest that everyone's interpretation of "discernable" would be the same. I understand your reasoning, but I wouldn't have used the balk rule as an analogy.
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