Nevada Hoya
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 6, 2009 15:28:51 GMT -5
Not using the turn signal frustrates me, as do the people calling or texting on the cell phone. CA actually banned talking on the cell phone before they banned texting. Turning right on a red light or stop sign is a bit dangerous for us, who jog. People look left, but joggers or peds follow protocol and run facing traffic; then when the drivers turn, they are surprised that somebody is coming from their right.
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Feb 6, 2009 16:01:07 GMT -5
Totally agree on the right on red rage. I go one further, I don't care if the damn sign says "No right on red" I'm going. It's an insult to my intelligence. Near my house there is such a sign but it says "No right on red from 7AM to 6PM." Every morning I hit this light at right around 7AM. It infuriates me when people won't go right at it - whether or not it's just before or just after 7. Grow a pair or get off the road. If you do that in Chicago, 30 days later you will get a $100 ticket in the mail. And, if you fail to pay your ticket, you will eventually get the boot on your car and could even get your license suspended. The city is installing cameras at most intersections and I have found out the hard way that they work.
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thebin
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Post by thebin on Feb 6, 2009 16:07:36 GMT -5
Totally agree on the right on red rage. I go one further, I don't care if the damn sign says "No right on red" I'm going. It's an insult to my intelligence. Near my house there is such a sign but it says "No right on red from 7AM to 6PM." Every morning I hit this light at right around 7AM. It infuriates me when people won't go right at it - whether or not it's just before or just after 7. Grow a pair or get off the road. If you do that in Chicago, 30 days later you will get a $100 ticket in the mail. And, if you fail to pay your ticket, you will eventually get the boot on your car and could even get your license suspended. The city is installing cameras at most intersections and I have found out the hard way that they work. For going right on red period or just specifically where it is prohibited?
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Feb 6, 2009 16:27:11 GMT -5
Fine. Just don't ride between lanes to get to the front of the line while the light is red, then take the lane when the light turns green and bike 15 mph under the speed limit. Oh no! You might get to your soul-crushing job 5 minutes slower! Damn you, bicyclist! Really, people, it's the city, not the highway. Share the road. I understand the frustration with bicyclists pulling some weird moves, but most of the time (i.e. not bike messingers), they're just trying to get away from cars, who they are deathly afraid of. Whenever I rode my bike to work or school in Austin, I never pulled that "weird move." The phrase "share the road" does not mean bicyclists can violate rules that apply equally to both bikes and cars.
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Feb 6, 2009 16:41:23 GMT -5
If you do that in Chicago, 30 days later you will get a $100 ticket in the mail. And, if you fail to pay your ticket, you will eventually get the boot on your car and could even get your license suspended. The city is installing cameras at most intersections and I have found out the hard way that they work. For going right on red period or just specifically where it is prohibited? The latter.
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Bando
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Post by Bando on Feb 6, 2009 17:17:23 GMT -5
Oh no! You might get to your soul-crushing job 5 minutes slower! Damn you, bicyclist! Really, people, it's the city, not the highway. Share the road. I understand the frustration with bicyclists pulling some weird moves, but most of the time (i.e. not bike messingers), they're just trying to get away from cars, who they are deathly afraid of. Whenever I rode my bike to work or school in Austin, I never pulled that "weird move." The phrase "share the road" does not mean bicyclists can violate rules that apply equally to both bikes and cars. I'm not excusing it, I'm just letting you know the general mentality behind such moves. Most of the people I know who bike are scared to death half the time. I'd also have to think that the number of cars driving in bike lanes and opening their doors into bike lines without looking far outnumber crazy bicyclists.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 6, 2009 17:24:07 GMT -5
Bicyclists in Northern California are all crazy and aggressive.
They intentionally make life difficult for cars to prove a point.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Feb 6, 2009 17:31:47 GMT -5
Bicyclists in Northern California are all crazy and aggressive. They intentionally make life difficult for cars to prove a point. And those people suck. The rest of us---who do abide by the rules of the road, right down to hand signalling for turns---don't like them either. I bike because it's convenient, I enjoy it, it's cheaper than a car, and it's better for the environment, not to Edited off people in cars. There was a very sad case of a young woman in DC a few months ago who got crushed to death under a garbage truck while riding in the bike line. I've personally been hit four times in DC since 2000: twice by cabbies, once by a woman who simply wasn't paying attention, and once by a woman who "thought [she] could pull out before you got there." All four times I was on the right side of the road, in the bike lane if there was one, going a normal speed, following the rules. All I ask is that people be aware, courteous, and follow the rules. That goes for drivers, bikers, and pedestrians alike, but those who stand more of a chance of hurting someone with their actions or omissions should be extra attentive. Like bando said, most of us have the fear of death half the time.....but I kinda enjoy that part of the ride
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Feb 6, 2009 19:41:50 GMT -5
I've been hit by cars twice while biking around DC.
If I'm going to make a suicide pact, I'm doing it with some hot goth chick, not with a BMW.
So, yeah, I don't bike anymore.
(well, except for fun on the bike trails)
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The Stig
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Post by The Stig on Feb 6, 2009 23:56:24 GMT -5
Here's a legendary bit of driving stupidity from the racing world:
The two drivers on the front row are teammates.
A few corners later, a driver decides to ignore the yellow flags and nearly gets decapitated for his stupidity.
Nobody was hurt in any of the accidents.
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Post by HoyaOnBothSides on Feb 8, 2009 18:03:52 GMT -5
Since it seems many of this board are interested in the psychology of driving, I suggest everyone should check out the book "Traffic: Why We Drive the Way We Do (and What It Says About Us)" www.amazon.com/Traffic-Drive-What-Says-About/dp/0307264785It goes into a lot of what people have mentioned here - how different people act in different situations (merging, stop signs, highways) and why...very good read...
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vcjack
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Post by vcjack on Feb 10, 2009 12:25:03 GMT -5
I used to work in a heavily industrial part of Chicago, full of large semis (who run red lights all the time) and other big vehicles, and some coworkers still BIKED to work. They really had death wishes.
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