EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 30, 2009 19:22:57 GMT -5
Michael Steele was elected chairman of the Republican National Committee today, the first African American to hold that position. He is a grad of Georgetown Law School. His resume at: www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/30/raw-data-michael-steele-biography/Excellent choice as far as I'm concerned. Guess this is one of those "historic events" in our country. |
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jan 30, 2009 23:36:35 GMT -5
He deserves congratulations. I am sure he is proud to have finally won an election on his own even if it took 6 ballots. Hopefully he can re-emphasize the need for good policy in his Party and focus less on politics.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 31, 2009 8:50:36 GMT -5
He deserves congratulations. I am sure he is proud to have finally won an election on his own even if it took 6 ballots. Hopefully he can re-emphasize the need for good policy in his Party and focus less on politics. Doesn't sound like a congratulations to me. |
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Post by SoCalHoya on Jan 31, 2009 9:42:24 GMT -5
Truly a historic event! Congrats to Steele and the RNC.
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Post by TC on Jan 31, 2009 10:57:46 GMT -5
Doesn't sound like a congratulations to me. To be fair, if you airquote "historic event" in your original post, it doesn't make it sound like you think recent events are historic. People generally respond to the tone they read with the same kind of tone. |
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Post by williambraskyiii on Jan 31, 2009 11:07:14 GMT -5
He deserves congratulations. I am sure he is proud to have finally won an election on his own even if it took 6 ballots. Hopefully he can re-emphasize the need for good policy in his Party and focus less on politics. EDIT: I called you a [Edited] in my original post but it got edited...just wanted to clarify. And it's been edited again. Consider your posting prvileges on notice unless you can avoid calling out people you disagree with. --Admin |
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 31, 2009 11:43:55 GMT -5
Doesn't sound like a congratulations to me. To be fair, if you airquote "historic event" in your original post, it doesn't make it sound like you think recent events are historic. People generally respond to the tone they read with the same kind of tone. My intent was to say that Obama's election was an historic event that was celebrated in the press. The election of Michael Steele is also an historic event and I will wait to see if it is also celebrated in the press. I repeat, I think Obama's election was an historic event. |
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Post by HoyaNyr320 on Jan 31, 2009 16:37:35 GMT -5
To be fair, if you airquote "historic event" in your original post, it doesn't make it sound like you think recent events are historic. People generally respond to the tone they read with the same kind of tone. My intent was to say that Obama's election was an historic event that was celebrated in the press. The election of Michael Steele is also an historic event and I will wait to see if it is also celebrated in the press. I repeat, I think Obama's election was an historic event. Because everyone knows that RNC Chair is just as important as the President of the United States.  Why are Republicans so schizo about the press? |
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Post by TC on Jan 31, 2009 16:52:59 GMT -5
My intent was to say that Obama's election was an historic event that was celebrated in the press. The election of Michael Steele is also an historic event and I will wait to see if it is also celebrated in the press. I repeat, I think Obama's election was an historic event. Really? It's great that the Republican party selected Michael Steele, and it is a first, and he deserves congratulations, but is it really historic on the level of election of an African American President (regardless of party)? Obama's election was historic because of a history of institutionalized racism in the US (slavery, segregation, etc). If you want to argue that the Republican party has its own history of institutionalized racism and discrimination apart from that of the country, then I'll agree it's historic in that respect. |
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Feb 1, 2009 12:58:59 GMT -5
Congratulations to Mr. Steele. I met and spoke with him once in law school and was impressed by his demeanor, his thoughtfulness, and his recognition of the difficult balances inherent to adherence to a particular party, ideology, or policy decision. I have a close friend who's worked for him since his Senate run, and she's been beating the Steele RNC drum for years. Let's see how he takes the party. I'd love to have a new approach by both Dems and Reps that recognizes what each can contribute to the conversation.
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Post by The Stig on Feb 2, 2009 9:03:21 GMT -5
Glad to see another Hoya in a powerful position!
I watched his acceptance speech on TV. The first half of it sounded so much like Obama that you'd think he was plagiarizing him. Then you get the Daily Show telling us that Obama basically quoted Bush throughout his entire Inaugural Address. Maybe the differences between our parties aren't so big after all....
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Post by Filo on Feb 2, 2009 9:55:42 GMT -5
Really? It's great that the Republican party selected Michael Steele, and it is a first, and he deserves congratulations, but is it really historic on the level of election of an African American President (regardless of party)? Obama's election was historic because of a history of institutionalized racism in the US (slavery, segregation, etc). If you want to argue that the Republican party has its own history of institutionalized racism and discrimination apart from that of the country, then I'll agree it's historic in that respect. Because everyone knows that RNC Chair is just as important as the President of the United States. Why are Republicans so schizo about the press? Yes, we're not allowed to have any historic events involving race any more. Obama trumps everything. Excellent, we now get to discuss historical relativism. |
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Post by HoyaNyr320 on Feb 2, 2009 11:08:25 GMT -5
Really? It's great that the Republican party selected Michael Steele, and it is a first, and he deserves congratulations, but is it really historic on the level of election of an African American President (regardless of party)? Obama's election was historic because of a history of institutionalized racism in the US (slavery, segregation, etc). If you want to argue that the Republican party has its own history of institutionalized racism and discrimination apart from that of the country, then I'll agree it's historic in that respect. Because everyone knows that RNC Chair is just as important as the President of the United States. Why are Republicans so schizo about the press? Yes, we're not allowed to have any historic events involving race any more. Obama trumps everything. Excellent, we now get to discuss historical relativism. Nice strawman. My point was that the press isn't going to cover Steele's appointment as much as Obama's election because the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES is a slightly bigger deal than RNC Chair. Instead of trying to refute that statement, you go off about the end of historic events involving race and historical relativism - once again showing that conservatives really think the whole world is out to get them. |
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Post by Filo on Feb 2, 2009 11:38:45 GMT -5
Nice strawman. My point was that the press isn't going to cover Steele's appointment as much as Obama's election because the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES is a slightly bigger deal than RNC Chair. Instead of trying to refute that statement, you go off about the end of historic events involving race and historical relativism - once again showing that conservatives really think the whole world is out to get them. You're the one creating strawmen, changing topics and making assumptions. Here is Ed's statement to which you replied: My intent was to say that Obama's election was an historic event that was celebrated in the press. The election of Michael Steele is also an historic event and I will wait to see if it is also celebrated in the press. I repeat, I think Obama's election was an historic event. And here is your response: Because everyone knows that RNC Chair is just as important as the President of the United States. Why are Republicans so schizo about the press? Where did Ed say the events were of equal significance or that they should be covered by the press equally? You're throwing out a strawman so you can support your ridiculous blanket statements like Republicans are schizo about the press. Then, just because one inane blanket statement is not enough, you throw out the old gem about conservatives being paranoid. Stereotype much? |
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Post by quickplay on Feb 2, 2009 11:48:47 GMT -5
The implication clearly was that Obama was celebrated in the press and now don't expect Michael Steele to be celebrated in the same way.
The response was President > RNC chair
Many conservatives (making a general statement here Ed, not attacking you) are hypersensitive about (real or perceived) unfair press coverage. The post about the first black RNC chair had included a barb about the press.
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Post by Bando on Feb 2, 2009 11:51:42 GMT -5
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Post by strummer8526 on Feb 2, 2009 12:54:36 GMT -5
The ad at the top of the page reads "Barack The Magic Negro: Offensive?" I don't think I've ever loved HoyaTalk more than I do right at this moment. Who is in charge of these ads that thinks "Negro" is still the way to word this? |
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 2, 2009 12:58:07 GMT -5
The ad at the top of the page reads "Barack The Magic Negro: Offensive?" I don't think I've ever loved HoyaTalk more than I do right at this moment. Who is in charge of these ads that thinks "Negro" is still the way to phrase this? Its the name of a parody song. I'll let you judge the quality of the parody on your own, but there's really no excuse for the guy that sent it around while campaigning for RNC chair (he had to drop out, obviously) www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/26/rnc.obama.satire/ |
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Feb 2, 2009 13:28:25 GMT -5
It's amazing how people try to read into my posts what I didn't say or imply.
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Post by SirSaxa on Feb 2, 2009 13:42:13 GMT -5
It's amazing how people try to read into my posts what I didn't say or imply. I was quite astonished to read your post. Perhaps you might like to reflect on it a little further since there have been many time when you have done exactly that to others. |
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