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Post by Cambridge on Jan 20, 2009 10:32:55 GMT -5
This thread reminds me of those awkward conversations at a wedding dinner table, when a couple of the guests make snide comments about the extravagance of the wedding. It's their day, just smile and let it go, aight. It just makes you look petty, insecure and overly cynical when you lob rhetorical mortars on someone else's big day.
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Post by Elvado on Jan 20, 2009 11:52:45 GMT -5
My mortars are not aimed at our new President. They are laser guided at the mainstream media lovefest that has morphed this inauguration from American celebration to world-wide deification, at least in no small measure because of the media personalities' own political leanings.
Mr. Obama will, I profoundly hope, be the finest President in my lifetime. Right now he is taking the first step. Let's see him walk a bit before we expand Rushmore.
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Post by blackbird1384 on Jan 20, 2009 12:03:42 GMT -5
Did anyone watching the NBC coverage see the young girl wearing a white snow cap with Georgetown's "G" embroidered on it? They showed her a few times. It must be a thrill for those soon-to-be Georgetown undergrads who will be in DC during such exciting and important times.
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Post by Cambridge on Jan 20, 2009 12:33:41 GMT -5
CNN had her too. Must have been a shared feed.
Thought his speech was pretty amazing. Put it this way, it had a large conference room full of big law partners and associates quiet and hanging on every word...I can assure you that that rarely, if ever, happens. These guys don't stop talking unless someone completely commands attention and respect. Even then...eh. So, bravo to Barack for keeping these BSDs pin-drop quiet for your his speech. Hell, it may have even got a little dusty in that room for some of them.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 20, 2009 13:01:28 GMT -5
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Jan 20, 2009 13:07:13 GMT -5
She was on Bloomberg too. Well positioned for the camera and a nice looking hat. Thumbs up on the speech.
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 20, 2009 13:29:04 GMT -5
I watched all the preliminary speeches/introductions/prayers as well as Obama's speech. Did not watch what came after Obama's speech.
Obama's speech: hard fought battle between idealism and naivete; naivete won.
Tone of Obama's speech: it would have been interesting to hear a speech where he was as graceful and full of class as Bush has been in handing over the Presidency.
I have been skeptical of the prospect of someone with as little experience as Obama being responsible for the safety of this country but was willing to give him a chance. My skepticism has turned to fear. Wants to give up all the critical tools necessary to keep us safe but wants us to trust him that he will keep us safe.
Obama wants to get us out of the financial troubles we are now in by spending, spending, spending and putting us deeper, deeper, deeper in debt. Really scary.
If Bush had had an inaugural day with as many references to God and Jesus he would have been scorched in the press. Bet Obama gets a near-pass.
Aside from that he gave a good speech. Ha.
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Post by Cambridge on Jan 20, 2009 13:35:18 GMT -5
Obviously, you are welcome to your opinion Ed, but I fear you heard what you wanted to hear and not what Mr. Obama said.
I heard a call to fiscal responsibility, a commitment to our national security and a vision of post-partisan politics given in a realistic and humble manner considering the current political and economic circumstances.
What exactly were you looking for from Mr. Obama?
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Post by quickplay on Jan 20, 2009 13:36:45 GMT -5
I like how following the law is 'giving up critical tools necessary to keep us safe.'
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Post by vcjack on Jan 20, 2009 13:36:49 GMT -5
She was on Bloomberg too. Well positioned for the camera and a nice looking hat. Thumbs up on the speech. She looked like she was standing to someone important. But on the event itself, reminded me a lot of his campaign: seamless, impressive, and really cool looking. His daughters also look bigger than when I met them last year*, I guess kids at that age grow quickly *Yes this is my TVBP to spite those who actually went, jerks |
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Post by TC on Jan 20, 2009 13:41:52 GMT -5
If Bush had had an inaugural day with as many references to God and Jesus he would have been scorched in the press. Bet Obama gets a near-pass. Bush's 2001 Inauguration Speech : 3 references to God, 0 references to Jesus Bush's 2005 Inauguration Speech : 3 references to God, 0 references to Jesus Obama 2009 : 3 references to God, 0 references to Jesus Does anyone else hear this voice in their head when they read easyed's posts? iconicionic.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/samtheagle.jpg |
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Post by Cambridge on Jan 20, 2009 13:45:38 GMT -5
If Bush had had an inaugural day with as many references to God and Jesus he would have been scorched in the press. Bet Obama gets a near-pass. Can't really win that point can he? It's a classic damned if he does, damned if he doesn't situation. If he talks about God, the press is biased. If he doesn't, he's godless. Way to set up a no win scenario on which to judge him. |
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Jan 20, 2009 13:46:46 GMT -5
Our banking sytem is in ruins and the amount of money that is being thrown at it to keep it afloat is scary but spend spend spend may be our only solution. We're in a pickle, there's no doubt about it. Down the line there will be a price to pay (massive debt, hyperinflation) but the alternative is even scarier. I agree that the Bush family has been graceful and full of class in handing over the presidency. Kudos to them.
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Post by TC on Jan 20, 2009 13:54:22 GMT -5
I'm sure the "but he overused the words 'hope' and 'change'" argument is coming, so let's head that one off at the pass:
Obama 2009 Inaugural address uses of "hope" : 3
Obama 2009 Inaugural address uses of "change" : 2
That's not even enough to get you through a beer if you were drinking along.
Comparatively :
Bush 2005 Inaugural address uses of "hope" : 8
Bush 2005 Inaugural address uses of "change" : 0
Bush 2001 Inaugural address uses of "hope" : 3
Bush 2001 Inaugural address uses of "change" : 1
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 20, 2009 14:06:09 GMT -5
If Bush had had an inaugural day with as many references to God and Jesus he would have been scorched in the press. Bet Obama gets a near-pass. Bush's 2001 Inauguration Speech : 3 references to God, 0 references to Jesus Bush's 2005 Inauguration Speech : 3 references to God, 0 references to Jesus Obama 2009 : 3 references to God, 0 references to Jesus Does anyone else hear this voice in their head when they read easyed's posts? iconicionic.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/samtheagle.jpgDid you notice I said inaugural day, not speech? How about including Rick Warren's prayer and the song, America (My country tis of Thee, etc.). Also I did not condemn Obama for this because I think it was the proper thing to do as it would have been had Bush used the same. |
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Post by kchoya on Jan 20, 2009 14:17:31 GMT -5
Bush's 2001 Inauguration Speech : 3 references to God, 0 references to Jesus Bush's 2005 Inauguration Speech : 3 references to God, 0 references to Jesus Obama 2009 : 3 references to God, 0 references to Jesus Does anyone else hear this voice in their head when they read easyed's posts? iconicionic.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/samtheagle.jpgDid you notice I said inaugural day, not speech? How about including Rick Warren's prayer and the song, America (My country tis of Thee, etc.). Also I did not condemn Obama for this because I think it was the proper thing to do as it would have been had Bush used the same. Obviously, you are welcome to your opinion EdTC, but I fear you heard what you wanted to hear and not what Mr. Obama easyed said. FIXED. Maybe it's the voices in TC's head? |
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 20, 2009 14:18:06 GMT -5
Gentlemen (and ladies)! This is not a time for rancor. In that vein, The Onion comes through yet again. Although this is probably more to the discussion point. |
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Post by TC on Jan 20, 2009 14:18:57 GMT -5
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 20, 2009 14:26:37 GMT -5
Obviously, you are welcome to your opinion Ed, but I fear you heard what you wanted to hear and not what Mr. Obama said. I heard a call to fiscal responsibility, a commitment to our national security and a vision of post-partisan politics given in a realistic and humble manner considering the current political and economic circumstances. What exactly were you looking for from Mr. Obama? And you, sir, also heard what you wanted to hear. What I wanted to hear was on a higher plane without casting so much blame, however indirect, on someone else, like the outgoing President. I wanted to come away with the feeling that "fiscal responsibility" was more than a slogan since it's unachievable with the spending, spending, spending he spoke of. I wanted hear more than naivete on what is going to be required to successfully defeat radical Islam and other terrorists. I wanted to get some inkling of what ideas from those who opposed him he might consider, rather than wordsmanship on post-partisan politics. And, as for your comment on a "humble manner", I heard no humility. Rather it was to the effect that virtually everything in the past was bad and only with his new administration can we hope to stop doing things like we did in the past and move into the future with him. No humility there. Arrogance is a better descriptor. Obama seemed to have started out on the right foot before this speech, showing his willingness to meet and listen to Republican leaders and conservative medal representatives. And, some of his cabinet selections clearly looked like he did not want to throw everything of the past out. But this speech makes it look like all of that was window dressing. In other words he came off as a phoney. Hope I am wrong. |
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Post by ExcitableBoy on Jan 20, 2009 14:35:37 GMT -5
Obama is entitled to his day in the sun. I watched all the preliminary speeches/introductions/prayers as well as Obama's speech. Did not watch what came after Obama's speech. Obama's speech: hard fought battle between idealism and naivete; naivete won. Tone of Obama's speech: it would have been interesting to hear a speech where he was as graceful and full of class as Bush has been in handing over the Presidency. I have been skeptical of the prospect of someone with as little experience as Obama being responsible for the safety of this country but was willing to give him a chance. My skepticism has turned to fear. Wants to give up all the critical tools necessary to keep us safe but wants us to trust him that he will keep us safe. Obama wants to get us out of the financial troubles we are now in by spending, spending, spending and putting us deeper, deeper, deeper in debt. Really scary. If Bush had had an inaugural day with as many references to God and Jesus he would have been scorched in the press. Bet Obama gets a near-pass. Aside from that he gave a good speech. Ha. On what planet does a day last an hour and 30 minutes? |
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