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Post by Cambridge on Jan 8, 2009 14:31:20 GMT -5
How would a citation be categorized as an arrest? That seems dubious law at best. Basically, under this logic all parking tickets, speeding tickets and moving violations are "arrests."
It reminds me of when the DC Cops were arresting kids for underage possession of alcohol, a citation offense in the district, not an arrestable offense. GULC and GW Law students I think helped filed suit against the city which put an end to that. I suggest undergrads contact the GULC now, before someone gets arrests. I'm sure a nervous 1L or 2L who wants to put something really intrested on their resume would volunteer time to fight such a stupid law.
[EDIT] - A quick search of the internet reveals that 61D is a nuissance code. I'm no expert, but as I understand it from reading it, for the most part this is intended not for noise violations but for illegal vending carts, unkept properties, dangerous hazards, etc. It is a strange to employ it for noise violations. Even a cursory review of the statute suggests that any citation would be ripe for all sorts of legal challenges.
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Post by jgalt on Jan 8, 2009 17:14:56 GMT -5
I really cannot for the life of me understand the general opposition to the University. .... I better understand the neighbors' efforts to make life difficult for the school and its students than I do the university's meekly putting up with it. GU does nothing to stick up for itself through the political process or by drawing on its unique resources, and so it's unsurprising to see its plans continually stymied. There is typically one student sitting on the Advisory Neighborhood Commission as the representative of district 2E04, which is entirely within the boundaries of the campus and populated only by students. Yet with some organization students would have a real chance of capturing the seats for districts 2E01 (which includes the many students living in Burleith), 2E02 (Henle and Darnall), 2E03 (Copley and Harbin, as well as many students living east of campus), and 2E05 (LXR and students east of campus). (There are maps of the districts on ANC 2E's website here and here and vote totals for this past November's election here[/url].) The difference between controlling one seat and controlling three or four of the seven seats on the ANC is the difference between the university's agenda forever dawdling in dreamland and it getting poured in concrete and built in stone. There are obvious difficulties in getting students to register to vote in DC. But the decisions made by the ANC affect students' lives far more than those made across town on Capitol Hill, and no one has ever made that case to them. As many political junkies, glad-handers, and aspiring Rahm Emanuels as there are running around campus, the administration must bear some of the blame for the apathy among students to neighborhood politics. This is all before considering the many other advantages the university has failed to press. With 19 alumni in the 111th Congress, Georgetown has better representation in the body with ultimate authority over the District than do 43 states. It can freely draw on the abilities of more than 1,600 of the country's brightest law students and one of its largest legal faculties. It is absurd that GU has been so bullied by the neighbors for so long.[/quote] I didnt know any of this, thanks pash. If the University really wanted to get these projects done and stand up for them selves they should inform the students of this. there are some many SFS students who would jump at the chance to run/vote for those positions. |
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Post by strummer8526 on Jan 8, 2009 21:19:00 GMT -5
In (I THINK) 2004, three students ran. Mike Glick won the seat that always goes to the University. I think the other two candidates were Mike Griffin and Eric Lashner. But I don't know details about how it went. I bet the Hoya archives have stories about their efforts.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 9, 2009 12:39:52 GMT -5
I really cannot for the life of me understand the general opposition to the University. .... I better understand the neighbors' efforts to make life difficult for the school and its students than I do the university's meekly putting up with it. GU does nothing to stick up for itself through the political process or by drawing on its unique resources, and so it's unsurprising to see its plans continually stymied. There is typically one student sitting on the Advisory Neighborhood Commission as the representative of district 2E04, which is entirely within the boundaries of the campus and populated only by students. Yet with some organization students would have a real chance of capturing the seats for districts 2E01 (which includes the many students living in Burleith), 2E02 (Henle and Darnall), 2E03 (Copley and Harbin, as well as many students living east of campus), and 2E05 (LXR and students east of campus). (There are maps of the districts on ANC 2E's website here and here and vote totals for this past November's election here[/url].) The difference between controlling one seat and controlling three or four of the seven seats on the ANC is the difference between the university's agenda forever dawdling in dreamland and it getting poured in concrete and built in stone. There are obvious difficulties in getting students to register to vote in DC. But the decisions made by the ANC affect students' lives far more than those made across town on Capitol Hill, and no one has ever made that case to them. As many political junkies, glad-handers, and aspiring Rahm Emanuels as there are running around campus, the administration must bear some of the blame for the apathy among students to neighborhood politics. This is all before considering the many other advantages the university has failed to press. With 19 alumni in the 111th Congress, Georgetown has better representation in the body with ultimate authority over the District than do 43 states. It can freely draw on the abilities of more than 1,600 of the country's brightest law students and one of its largest legal faculties. It is absurd that GU has been so bullied by the neighbors for so long.[/quote] Now that's a solution, or at least the beginning of formulating one. Any way that this idea can be forwarded to the right people (even heads of student organizations)? |
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Post by saxacalhoya on Jan 9, 2009 12:43:02 GMT -5
This is all before considering the many other advantages the university has failed to press. With 19 alumni in the 111th Congress, Georgetown has better representation in the body with ultimate authority over the District than do 43 states. It can freely draw on the abilities of more than 1,600 of the country's brightest law students and one of its largest legal faculties. It is absurd that GU has been so bullied by the neighbors for so long. Ignorance is bliss .... |
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Post by strummer8526 on Jan 9, 2009 12:50:42 GMT -5
I better understand the neighbors' efforts to make life difficult for the school and its students than I do the university's meekly putting up with it. GU does nothing to stick up for itself through the political process or by drawing on its unique resources, and so it's unsurprising to see its plans continually stymied. There is typically one student sitting on the Advisory Neighborhood Commission as the representative of district 2E04, which is entirely within the boundaries of the campus and populated only by students. Yet with some organization students would have a real chance of capturing the seats for districts 2E01 (which includes the many students living in Burleith), 2E02 (Henle and Darnall), 2E03 (Copley and Harbin, as well as many students living east of campus), and 2E05 (LXR and students east of campus). (There are maps of the districts on ANC 2E's website here and here and vote totals for this past November's election here[/url].) The difference between controlling one seat and controlling three or four of the seven seats on the ANC is the difference between the university's agenda forever dawdling in dreamland and it getting poured in concrete and built in stone. There are obvious difficulties in getting students to register to vote in DC. But the decisions made by the ANC affect students' lives far more than those made across town on Capitol Hill, and no one has ever made that case to them. As many political junkies, glad-handers, and aspiring Rahm Emanuels as there are running around campus, the administration must bear some of the blame for the apathy among students to neighborhood politics. This is all before considering the many other advantages the university has failed to press. With 19 alumni in the 111th Congress, Georgetown has better representation in the body with ultimate authority over the District than do 43 states. It can freely draw on the abilities of more than 1,600 of the country's brightest law students and one of its largest legal faculties. It is absurd that GU has been so bullied by the neighbors for so long.[/quote] Now that's a solution, or at least the beginning of formulating one. Any way that this idea can be forwarded to the right people (even heads of student organizations)?[/quote] The problem is that a lot of student organizations are spineless. They'll snipe at each other and take up petty causes (or massive global causes that they could never impact in a million years--How's Tibet doing?) But no one will take on the University or really push for any major changes in power. |
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 9, 2009 14:16:41 GMT -5
Now that's a solution, or at least the beginning of formulating one. Any way that this idea can be forwarded to the right people (even heads of student organizations)? The problem is that a lot of student organizations are spineless. They'll snipe at each other and take up petty causes (or massive global causes that they could never impact in a million years--How's Tibet doing?) But no one will take on the University or really push for any major changes in power. Totally agree. I can't recall how many camp-outs / demonstrations / protests I saw on campus during my time at GU that had to do with the most trivial things, but it was quite a few. However, I think if someone were to explain pash's idea to the right people involved with student leadership positions and possibly go even more in depth with a definitive plan to help put representatives of the university into office, I'm hopeful that one day it could happen. Right now all off-campus students do (and I was the same when I was at GU) is complain about how the neighborhood essentially tries to put a muzzle on them and make their lives miserable in various ways. I've got to think at least a couple of kids each year will take it upon themselves to try to make a difference. In my eyes this is much more important than GUSA or whatever the students view as their leadership/voice on campus these days. This sounds like an actual avenue that could cause change. They should be wholeheartedly throwing their efforts behind this. |
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Post by hoyatables on Jan 9, 2009 14:39:51 GMT -5
You guys are all about 12 years too late. All of this happened about a dozen years ago when students mobilized to get enough students registered in order to elect a member to the ANC. They were successful, but after GU managed to get some folks elected in a couple of different single member district seats, in response the boundaries were re-drawn to essentially assure that there would be only one student.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 9, 2009 15:00:04 GMT -5
But Tables, isn't this an updated map with the present-day boundaries? www.anc2e.com/anc2emap.htmlStill think a significant amount of students reside in districts 1-4, if it is correct. |
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Post by Bando on Jan 9, 2009 15:22:40 GMT -5
I think tables is right, we were gerrymandered out of multiple seats. Students can maybe make a go of it in 1 and 3, but the new lines split the university townhomes on P, O, N, and Prospect Streets. Winning was easier when the university was split into three districts, as most students are on campus.
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Post by jgalt on Jan 10, 2009 0:29:47 GMT -5
But this should not just be on the students. Sure, it'd be great if students understood and cared enough to try to exert their due influence on the ANC, whose decisions have more bearing on their everyday lives than any other government body. But the point I've wanted to make from the start is that it is very much in the interest of the university as an institution to have a pro-GU ANC in place. For that reason, I consider it another in the long line of failures on part of GU's leadership that it has done nothing to educate and encourage the students, obnoxiously political and activist as they already are, to effect this sort of meaningful, achievable change. I wonder whether it's a fear among administrators of giving the inmates the keys to the asylum? Here Here!!! One of the biggest road blocks is getting students to register in DC and the first page of the book that Pash linked say exactly why most students would even consider it (along with the hassle, although very small, it is to re-register) |
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Post by HoyaLingus on Jan 20, 2009 15:02:56 GMT -5
This sort of thinking is why the crappy DC Public Library isn't going anywhere. I assume you're speaking about the MLK library - what makes you think it isn't going anywhere, exactly?  |
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Post by Bando on Jan 20, 2009 16:44:33 GMT -5
This sort of thinking is why the crappy DC Public Library isn't going anywhere. I assume you're speaking about the MLK library - what makes you think it isn't going anywhere, exactly? Well the mayor had originally planned for a new central library to be built as part of the old Convention Center development, but public outcry forced them to stay with the "historic" van der Rohe building. A new library is officially not part of that project anymore. |
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Post by jgalt on Jan 20, 2009 19:42:37 GMT -5
I assume you're speaking about the MLK library - what makes you think it isn't going anywhere, exactly? Well the mayor had originally planned for a new central library to be built as part of the old Convention Center development, but public outcry forced them to stay with the "historic" van der Rohe building. A new library is officially not part of that project anymore. Yeah there was a series of stories i heard on NPR about how the MLK library is NOT going anywhere |
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jan 22, 2009 14:36:13 GMT -5
The MLK Library is going to be renovated.....bids by construction companys in the area are being submitted today actually
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Post by Bando on Jan 22, 2009 16:20:44 GMT -5
The MLK Library is going to be renovated.....bids by construction companys in the area are being submitted today actually The phrase "you can't shine " comes to mind. But seriously, I'm glad the library will enter the 21st century and become more functional and have some long-standing structural problems addressed. . That doesn't make the MLK building a paragon of architecture. |
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Post by jgalt on Jan 22, 2009 16:26:14 GMT -5
The MLK Library is going to be renovated.....bids by construction companys in the area are being submitted today actually The phrase "you can't shine Edited" comes to mind. But seriously, I'm glad the library will enter the 21st century and become more functional and have some long-standing structural problems addressed. . That doesn't make the MLK building a paragon of architecture. Funny thing is, they did on Mythbusters! but the MLK is still an eye sore, although i dont mind its fundamental architectural elements, it just needs a huge face lift and to be more inviting, it looks more like an office building than a library. |
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jul 10, 2024 10:36:38 GMT -5
D.C.’s ‘ugliest’ brutalist buildings — and how architects would fix themJoseph Mark Lauinger Library3700 O St. NW “Lauinger Library,” Ty Cole. (Ty Cole) Year completed: 1970. Lead architect: John Carl Warnecke. Fun fact: The dark gray of Georgetown University’s library mimics the stones used to build nearby Healy Hall: Potomac gneiss ashlar. What’s wrong with it? Cole, the show’s architectural photographer, called this ungainly structure a “friendly monster.” Can it be fixed? Three fourth-year architecture students from the University of Nevada at Las Vegas envision a facelift rather than a reinvention. The plan would slice corridors through the building like a birthday cake, preserving its function as a library, with design guided by Jesuit principles of social justice, simple living, spirituality and community.
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 10, 2024 10:59:06 GMT -5
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 10, 2024 11:37:39 GMT -5
The plan would slice corridors through the building like a birthday cake, preserving its function as a library, with design guided by Jesuit principles of social justice, simple living, spirituality and community. Perhaps a better question rather than the utility of slicing up the corridors at Lauinger might be what is the future of the library. Prior to Lauinger, Riggs Library served a role not unlike today's Archives: a repository of books for scholars (read=Jesuits) that were generally non-circulating. I recall an article written by an alumnus of the 1930s who was given a job in the library and often was the only student there, as students were generally not allowed to check out books nor spend time in Riggs; hence, places like the forgotten Hirst Reading Room served as the place where students in the College could study. From the mid-1950s onwards, college libraries evolved into what would now approximate a public library, with circulation privileges, a constant influx of obscure periodicals, and more open study locations, though that discipline has changed from a solitary pursuit to a much more communal activity. But as the Internet has laid waste to print materials and more and more books are stored off-site than on site (i.e., Lauinger is now too small), the long term planning is not going away, even if library science professionals are notoriously slow to change. In 2009, Princeton set about renovating its library. It took ten years. www.princeton.edu/news/2019/03/11/new-era-begins-princeton-university-library |
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