cnyhoya
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Post by cnyhoya on Oct 23, 2009 12:34:10 GMT -5
Sorry that I don't remember, but who does that leave in the running? Thanks.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Oct 23, 2009 12:39:27 GMT -5
UCONN and GTOWN
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tlphoya
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Post by tlphoya on Oct 23, 2009 12:41:00 GMT -5
no duke has 4 seniors plus will probalby lose singler to the draft so that gives them 5 openings they have thorton, hairston, and now irving they have room to take 2 more if needed. so not officially or numerically, but i do not believe they'll play together. They could also lose a player or two if they decide to pursue a career in Hollywood. I'm sure the offers are pouring in after their midnight madness cinematic tribute dropped.
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Oct 23, 2009 13:13:26 GMT -5
I'm still wondering how their player announcing gets on the ticker on ESPN, but NO ONE elses player does. I don't mean among a group of players announcing; it was like breaking news!
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Oct 23, 2009 13:16:04 GMT -5
because kyrie irving like it or not is a major major guy....i know we hate duke, but that really was a major get
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on Oct 23, 2009 13:18:33 GMT -5
That's BS and you know it. I don't remember Greg announcing being on the ticker and he was THE major guy. Its Duke. I'm not discounting Irving, just saying. The stuff is so obvious.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 23, 2009 13:25:25 GMT -5
Yep, Greg was #1 at one point, and he barely talked to anyone at all, let alone actively denying a rumor that was obviously true, then setting up a televised press conference.
I'm not saying we all aren't attracted to attention, but it takes a huge ego to have a press conference for something like this.
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Hoya LNU
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Post by Hoya LNU on Oct 23, 2009 14:10:44 GMT -5
From the Rivals article, "This is how you get to 10 Final Fours,” Krzyzewski said Thursday, sweeping his arm across a row of pictures hanging in Duke’s sparkling new practice facility." Fitting that Duke and Syracuse would be inaugurating practice facilities togther. Irritating as h*ll that there's nothing on the horizon for GU. And another thing, "This is how you get a reputation as a tool," Krzyzewski said, self-aggrandizingly sweeping his arm around the media masses...
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Oct 23, 2009 15:46:21 GMT -5
Not that we'd be interested, but I wonder if T. Thornton might reconsider his commitment now that Duke has recruited over him in the same class.
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Post by patrickchewing on Oct 24, 2009 9:45:48 GMT -5
I never thought Tyler was that good to be honest, it was more the players around him. I mean he played with Max Kenyi, Cam Johnson, Ian Hummer, and Cedric Lindsey. That team would make anyone good. We will see how good he is this year because he is the lone star for Gonzaga.
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hoyasexy
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Post by hoyasexy on Oct 26, 2009 9:10:57 GMT -5
I never thought Tyler was that good to be honest, it was more the players around him. I mean he played with Max Kenyi, Cam Johnson, Ian Hummer, and Cedric Lindsey. That team would make anyone good. We will see how good he is this year because he is the lone star for Gonzaga. At the risk of hijacking a Roscoe thread, there is some truth to this, but I think it's overstated. Tyler has special skills, but I have never seen him put it all together - he alternates between dazzling and frustrating. For example, in last year's conference championship game, he made a tremendous play to send the game to OT, but it might not have been in this position had he not gacked away the ball a few moments earlier. But as for the team, he won't be the lone star this year. Gonzaga is reloading (and still has Cedric Lindsay to complement TT in the backcourt). That said, the other guys you mention are mid-major talents (Kenyi and Hummer are in the Ivy league and Johnson is playing football), and the Gonzaga teams have played with, and beaten, teams in their conference loaded with top-tier talent. Although I tend to think that Gonzaga overachieves as a result of superior coaching, clearly TT can't be too bad.
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damnhoya
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Post by damnhoya on Nov 4, 2009 16:15:38 GMT -5
There are rumors that Barnes told Duke he will not go there (and he is down to UNC and Kansas). If those rumors are true, it might change the Roscoe sweepstakes. People are assuming Roscoe will commit to UConn (strong likelihood, especially if Lamb goes there as well). If Barnes is not going to Duke, Roscoe could end up there instead.
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damnhoya
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Post by damnhoya on Nov 5, 2009 20:11:40 GMT -5
Coach K is watching Roscoe play tonight.
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Post by shf9 on Nov 6, 2009 9:22:55 GMT -5
There are rumors that Barnes told Duke he will not go there (and he is down to UNC and Kansas). If those rumors are true, it might change the Roscoe sweepstakes. People are assuming Roscoe will commit to UConn (strong likelihood, especially if Lamb goes there as well). If Barnes is not going to Duke, Roscoe could end up there instead. not true. barnes will commit to duke. as i've stated previously, duke wants smith in addition to barnes; he's not a backup in their minds. not saying it's going to happen, but that is duke's plan. as for thornton, he will be signing next week. he knew from day 1 that he was not duke's top priority at PG for the class (it was, at first, Knight, then Irving when Knight showed little interest) and was himself very active in the Irving recruitment. as for how good he will be, it should be noted that he made 1st-team all-conference as voted by league coaches over Kendall Marshall, a much more highly regarded prospect according to "experts." the whole irving situation was out of control as far as his announcement. the vast majority of top prospects get their decisions scrolled on the ticker on espn (they like to tout their own recruiting garbage), but i didn't like the way irving handled his commitment.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 6, 2009 9:55:58 GMT -5
I'd love nothing more for duke to miss out on both Barnes and Smith. That'd be fun.
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 6, 2009 14:05:34 GMT -5
Duke won't miss out on Barnes and Smith. If they don't get Barnes, they'll get Smith.
Frankly, they can have him as far as I'm concerned. Would rather have Tony Mitchell and Jelan Kendrick, better players with less of an entitlement attitude.
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Post by shf9 on Nov 6, 2009 17:30:42 GMT -5
Duke won't miss out on Barnes and Smith. If they don't get Barnes, they'll get Smith. Frankly, they can have him as far as I'm concerned. Would rather have Tony Mitchell and Jelan Kendrick, better players with less of an entitlement attitude. any specific examples of Smith's "entitled" attitude? sincerely interested because i have heard nothing but glowing reports about his effort and overall demeanor. he's kind of a "pull no punches" character from what i understand.
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dense
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Post by dense on Nov 6, 2009 17:45:21 GMT -5
shf9, also as a hoya fan who has seen him play alot, the kid has talent but i hope he goes to Duke and doesnt come here....kid is all world one night, all nothing the next very soft at times imo.....definitely doesnt have that "dog" in him....He doesnt loaf...just kinda cruises.............especially after oleswaere dominated him, Jamal almost parlayed that effort into a schollie from us,lol. but really I dont "WANT"roscoe, much rather have Kendrick or Mitchell.
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chep3
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Post by chep3 on Nov 6, 2009 20:37:38 GMT -5
shf, not saying you're necessarily wrong, but I find it tough to believe that you guys are going to have a 1-3 of Smith, Dawkins, Irving, Barnes, Thornton and still get Smith. Again, not saying its impossible, but that's the kind of logjam he wouldn't see at UConn, and to a lesser extent, here. Unless of course Coach K is pulling a Calhoun and going to run some guys off.
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alexd
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Post by alexd on Nov 7, 2009 18:43:23 GMT -5
There are rumors that Barnes told Duke he will not go there (and he is down to UNC and Kansas). If those rumors are true, it might change the Roscoe sweepstakes. People are assuming Roscoe will commit to UConn (strong likelihood, especially if Lamb goes there as well). If Barnes is not going to Duke, Roscoe could end up there instead. not true. barnes will commit to duke. as i've stated previously, duke wants smith in addition to barnes; he's not a backup in their minds. not saying it's going to happen, but that is duke's plan. as for thornton, he will be signing next week. he knew from day 1 that he was not duke's top priority at PG for the class (it was, at first, Knight, then Irving when Knight showed little interest) and was himself very active in the Irving recruitment. as for how good he will be, it should be noted that he made 1st-team all-conference as voted by league coaches over Kendall Marshall, a much more highly regarded prospect according to "experts." the whole irving situation was out of control as far as his announcement. the vast majority of top prospects get their decisions scrolled on the ticker on espn (they like to tout their own recruiting garbage), but i didn't like the way irving handled his commitment. You state that Duke does not see Smith as a backup [now there's a surprise]....yet you state they want BOTH him and Barnes? They are both SF's. I'm sorry, but I have not heard or read this idea anywhere else.
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