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Post by williambraskyiii on Oct 2, 2008 16:21:29 GMT -5
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Post by The Stig on Oct 2, 2008 21:49:26 GMT -5
Well, she wasn't biased in the debate, but I didn't think she did a very good job. That said, Lehrer was a tough act to follow. I still think he should have gotten all the debates.
I also wish they would have used the same format as the Presidential debate, with longer speaking times and more room for back and forth between the candidates.
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Post by TC on Oct 2, 2008 21:53:48 GMT -5
I wonder how Ifill would have dealt with Palin basically telling her she wasn't going to answer questions had the Republicans not worked the refs.
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Post by SirSaxa on Oct 2, 2008 23:45:17 GMT -5
I wonder how Ifill would have dealt with Palin basically telling her she wasn't going to answer questions had the Republicans not worked the refs. I was wondering the exact same thing. |
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Post by The Stig on Oct 2, 2008 23:56:11 GMT -5
To be fair, Biden also talked over Ifill a few times to get a response in.
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Post by TC on Oct 3, 2008 8:04:23 GMT -5
To be fair, Biden also talked over Ifill a few times to get a response in. That's standard debate fare - I've never seen a debatee pre-emptively attack the moderator because they refuse to come off talking point and answer questions. |
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Post by The Stig on Oct 3, 2008 8:35:48 GMT -5
Failing to answer questions and going off topic is also standard debate fare. Biden was unusually cooperative in that regard last night, as he at least made an attempt to answer all the questions. Palin's dodging was the sort of stuff you usually expect from a candidate.
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Post by EasyEd on Oct 3, 2008 8:50:36 GMT -5
Failing to answer questions and going off topic is also standard debate fare. Biden was unusually cooperative in that regard last night, as he at least made an attempt to answer all the questions. Palin's dodging was the sort of stuff you usually expect from a candidate. Did Biden answer the question as to what would have to be given up because of the financial crisis? All he said is they may have to delay some foreign $s but then went on to list the things they could not give up. Obama did the same dodge in the first debate. Just trying to say that Palin was not the only one who did not answer questions. |
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Post by hoyatables on Oct 3, 2008 9:18:24 GMT -5
Failing to answer questions and going off topic is also standard debate fare. Biden was unusually cooperative in that regard last night, as he at least made an attempt to answer all the questions. Palin's dodging was the sort of stuff you usually expect from a candidate. Did Biden answer the question as to what would have to be given up because of the financial crisis? All he said is they may have to delay some foreign $s but then went on to list the things they could not give up. Obama did the same dodge in the first debate. Just trying to say that Palin was not the only one who did not answer questions. No but at least Biden said SOMETHING. And a good one, too -- foreigners don't vote for us (contrary to what some might suggest that Obama thought with his grand world tour  . I think they both dodged a fair bit but Biden was far less awkward in his transitions. That's not a knock on Palin per se -- she's not a lawyer and hasn't been 'trained' in the art of speaking out of both sides of your mouth :-P. |
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Post by Jack on Oct 3, 2008 9:35:41 GMT -5
Did Biden answer the question as to what would have to be given up because of the financial crisis? All he said is they may have to delay some foreign $s but then went on to list the things they could not give up. Obama did the same dodge in the first debate. Just trying to say that Palin was not the only one who did not answer questions. No but at least Biden said SOMETHING. And a good one, too -- foreigners don't vote for us (contrary to what some might suggest that Obama thought with his grand world tour . I think they both dodged a fair bit but Biden was far less awkward in his transitions. That's not a knock on Palin per se -- she's not a lawyer and hasn't been 'trained' in the art of speaking out of both sides of your mouth :-P. I understand the political reality, but I really hate that the first place anyone is looking to cut is foreign aid. We already give a pathetic amount compared to GDP, and the developing world desperately needs our help to end crushing poverty. Of course nobody wants to hear about giving aid to other countries in "tough economic times," but nobody in the US is dying of starvation or malaria. If we spent a fraction of what goes to our military budget on addressing those problems we could make significant gains toward solving them while also seeing improving our standing with these nations that otherwise may become breeding grounds for future terrorists. |
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Oct 3, 2008 9:45:01 GMT -5
Failing to answer questions and going off topic is also standard debate fare. Biden was unusually cooperative in that regard last night, as he at least made an attempt to answer all the questions. Palin's dodging was the sort of stuff you usually expect from a candidate. I think that was done specifically to contrast with Palin not answering questions. |
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Post by SirSaxa on Oct 3, 2008 12:32:03 GMT -5
Did Biden answer the question as to what would have to be given up because of the financial crisis? All he said is they may have to delay some foreign $s but then went on to list the things they could not give up. Obama did the same dodge in the first debate. Just trying to say that Palin was not the only one who did not answer questions. That's true. But Biden did a far better job actually answering questions than Palin did. And his answers were much better as well. By the way, it is quite obvious that BS pre-debate circus story about Gwen being biased turned out to be totally inaccurate and irrelevant. Some people think she did a great job, some good, some OK, but I haven't heard anyone suggest she was biased. Neither have I heard you or any of those falling for that ridiculous story acknowledging that Gwen did not show any bias whatsoever. |
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Post by Elvado on Oct 3, 2008 12:40:16 GMT -5
Gwen Ifill was virtually invisible and anonymous last night. Thus, she did a fine job. I never once thought her pending book or any personal ideology (though I have no idea what her peresonal ideology may be) would animate her conduct of the debate.
She proved herself to be above the smallness some suggested.
Having said that, is it possible that the outcry so close to the debate declawed her in any fashion? She never called the candidates (and specifically Governor Palin) on the failure/refusal to address her questions.
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Post by EasyEd on Oct 3, 2008 12:44:57 GMT -5
Gwen Ifill was virtually invisible and anonymous last night. Thus, she did a fine job. I never once thought her pending book or any personal ideology (though I have no idea what her peresonal ideology may be) would animate her conduct of the debate. She proved herself to be above the smallness some suggested. Having said that, is it possible that the outcry so close to the debate declawed her in any fashion? She never called the candidates (and specifically Governor Palin) on the failure/refusal to address her questions. What he said. |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 3, 2008 13:40:34 GMT -5
Yeah so you probably got what you wanted. Instead of being hard on the candidates she sat back and let Palin babble like a fool, without getting called on it.
Of course it's possible she would've done the same thing if the story hadn't come up. Does anyone remember her style from the last VP debate?
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. I think they both dodged a fair bit but Biden was far less awkward in his transitions. That's not a knock on Palin per se -- she's not a lawyer and hasn't been 'trained' in the art of speaking out of both sides of your mouth :-P.
