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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Sept 14, 2008 19:26:40 GMT -5
This fair and balanced link has more detail: elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/18/mccain-we-have-succeeded-in-iraq/“I repeat my statement that we have succeeded in Iraq — not we are succeeding — we have succeeded in Iraq,” he said. “The strategy has worked and we now have the Iraqi government and military in charge in the major cities in Iraq. Al Qaeda is on their heels and on the run.” |
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The Stig
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Post by The Stig on Sept 14, 2008 19:29:42 GMT -5
If your definition of 'victory' in Iraq is a stable, democratic, and peaceful Iraq, then the deciding factor in whether we're victorious will be the Iraqis, not American troops. The reduction in violence needs to be accompanied by political progress within the Iraqi government and some sense of nationhood among the Iraqi people. Those aren't things that can be solved by a foreign military presence.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Sept 15, 2008 9:56:48 GMT -5
This fair and balanced link has more detail: elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/18/mccain-we-have-succeeded-in-iraq/“I repeat my statement that we have succeeded in Iraq — not we are succeeding — we have succeeded in Iraq,” he said. “The strategy has worked and we now have the Iraqi government and military in charge in the major cities in Iraq. Al Qaeda is on their heels and on the run.” It doesn't say we have won the war. It says the surge, with all of its elements, has succeeded. Surely you lawyers or to-be lawyers can see the difference. By the way, what do people disagree with on the Post article I cited? |
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Post by hifigator on Sept 15, 2008 13:22:26 GMT -5
ed, if the article has an underlying premise that every single thing that has ever gone wrong, every single malody that has ever happened, every single illness that has ever been discovered as well as those yet to be discovered and every other negative quality in anyone's life ever is in fact George W. Bush's fault ... then and only then do they agree with the article. Therein lies the answer to your question.
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