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Post by strummer8526 on Jul 21, 2008 15:51:32 GMT -5
It's gotta be TitleTown USA because I don't even understand how there can be a discussion. Maybe I misunderstand the "criteria" for this "competition" or whatever this nonsense is, but how is there a list that runs longer than New York and Boston? Just looking at the number of teams and how long those teams have existed, you have to say NY and Boston. If you're talking long-term...um, 26 World Series. TitleTown segment over. If you're talking short-term, Boston kills. When I heard the discussion of how Pat Summit makes Knoxville "TitleTown USA," I almost lost it. And I'm sorry, but an Olympian being born in a city...does that really count?
Why am I even getting so riled up over such a complete joke of a filler material?
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Post by Boz on Jul 21, 2008 16:27:55 GMT -5
Who's Next is much worse. Titletown is an inane, pointless discussion that is almost certainly just some clever mid-level producer's idea to get to be able to travel to a bunch of different cities. In the end it harms no one, and everyone is going to continue to maintain their bias on the town they favor. To be honest, if I were the Green Bay Chamber of Commerce, I'd file a lawsuit, but other than that, it's no big deal. Who's Next is everything that is wrong with sports. It is anointing people who have - for the most part - earned nothing (or very little) to date and telling everyone, you should pay attention to these people, adore them, and give them large sums of money. But enough about Obama. Ba-ZING! ;D Seriously though, I'd much rather watch Freddy Adu mature as a soccer player on the field than have to listen to countless commentators discuss why a 15-year old isn't living up to his potential. I would also much rather not see the new "Adu-1" adidas cleat until Freddy has actually DONE something important, like make a World Cup team. I don't mean to pick on Adu, just choosing an example at random. I hate Who's Next. Titletown is just idle banter.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jul 21, 2008 21:09:47 GMT -5
Can we add "My Wish" to this list?
From the Make-A-Wish Foundation website:
"With more than 6,000 wishes granted each year, including visits to the Disney Parks, Disney Cruises, meeting Disney Characters, attending sporting events and visiting TV and movie sets, Disney-themed wishes continue to be the most popular requests by Make-A-Wish® children."
Well golly gee, I wonder which corporation owns a majority share of the Entertainment and Sports Programming Network.
NB: I don't even watch Sportscenter anymore unless I am staying in a hotel room, but ESPN has the gall to advertise these "special segments" during regular programming.
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Post by thornski on Jul 21, 2008 21:42:00 GMT -5
I'm actually shocked that ESPN decided on this Titletown bit after the disaster that was Who's Now from last year. I've made it a point never to watch any SportsCenter special segments after that.
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Post by RDF on Jul 21, 2008 23:43:06 GMT -5
To show you how I view ESPN--I had no idea what was being talked about until I read Austin and Thornski's description. Unless it's a game I have to watch on their channel--I never tune in and I used to enjoy Sportscenter.
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Post by PhillyHoya on Jul 22, 2008 0:15:09 GMT -5
Can we add "My Wish" to this list? From the Make-A-Wish Foundation website: "With more than 6,000 wishes granted each year, including visits to the Disney Parks, Disney Cruises, meeting Disney Characters, attending sporting events and visiting TV and movie sets, Disney-themed wishes continue to be the most popular requests by Make-A-Wish® children." Well golly gee, I wonder which corporation owns a majority share of the Entertainment and Sports Programming Network. NB: I don't even watch Sportscenter anymore unless I am staying in a hotel room, but ESPN has the gall to advertise these "special segments" during regular programming. Beat me to the punch. Seriously, Chris Connelly has to have his man card taken away for doing it.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 22, 2008 2:21:02 GMT -5
Who's Now was by far the worst.
Anything that came down to this logic pretty much sums it up: "Well, I think Tiger's really now, so he wins."
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Post by theexorcist on Jul 22, 2008 7:46:48 GMT -5
These are all basically summer filler.
TitleTown seems fun, on the principle that you show all these places with a claim to something that cuts people cut in bars.
"Who's Now". NO. Just no.
I liked the "fifty states (plus D.C.)" last year. You kind of see how people in Wyoming or Vermont or Texas see sports.
"Make A Wish" is fine, since it gives kids fighting nasty illnesses time on TV.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Jul 22, 2008 9:00:16 GMT -5
The titletown segment makes me irrationally angry and violent
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Post by strummer8526 on Jul 22, 2008 12:31:48 GMT -5
The titletown segment makes me irrationally angry and violent Agreed. "Last time I saw it, I struck my wife. Then I realized she's been dead for five years. Who did I hit?!"
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Post by Buckets on Jul 22, 2008 12:33:40 GMT -5
Who's Now is a clear winner here. Titletown is bound to make a lot more people angry, but at least they (ostensibly) aren't judging on commercial appeal, in contrast to Who's Now which was more just laughably ridiculous. I understand they have time to fill during the summer when it's just baseball highlights, but I would have thought they could come up with something a little more entertaining than this. Titletown is really just a repackaged 50 States in 50 Days which I thought was actually a legitimately good segment.
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Post by hifigator on Jul 22, 2008 14:09:35 GMT -5
Damn It! And after I had done all I could to put "Who's Now?" out of my mind forever. I thought I had cleansed my mind but someone brought it up.
As for the Titletown segment, I must admit that even though Gainesville is in the running, how can it not be Boston? I know long term the Yankees have it on the Sox easily, but right now I think you have to go with Boston. Remember, NY also has the Islanders, Rangers and Knicks in addition to the overrated Mets.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 22, 2008 15:56:40 GMT -5
Damn It! And after I had done all I could to put "Who's Now?" out of my mind forever. I thought I had cleansed my mind but someone brought it up. As for the Titletown segment, I must admit that even though Gainesville is in the running, how can it not be Boston? I know long term the Yankees have it on the Sox easily, but right now I think you have to go with Boston. Remember, NY also has the Islanders, Rangers and Knicks in addition to the overrated Mets. Since Title Town is about a city's entire history of titles, NYC should include some teams that HiFi omitted... Too much time in the FL sun? How about baseball's Brooklyn Dodgers and NY Giants... quite a few titles there. Not to mention the more obvious omissions... the NY Jets (only one Superbowl, but the most famous and significant ever), and the NY Football Giants!, who have a total of 7 NFL titles, including 3 Superbowl crowns .... not to mention they are the reigning NFL Champs as winners of the most recent Superbowl.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 22, 2008 20:06:24 GMT -5
Shocking that the most populous city, and on the east coast, has the most titles. Really, if you were interested in doing it right, you'd do it pre capita and adjust for the fact that the west coast didn't have teams until the fifties.
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Post by The Stig on Jul 22, 2008 20:22:24 GMT -5
Titletown has had a bit of an upside, since it's highlighted a few small high school sports towns that wouldn't otherwise get on ESPN. But other than that it's mostly time-filling fluff.
As an aside, Green Bay isn't even Titletown, Wisconsin. Take a bow, Madison.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 23, 2008 8:49:01 GMT -5
Shocking that the most populous city, and on the east coast, has the most titles. Really, if you were interested in doing it right, you'd do it pre capita and adjust for the fact that the west coast didn't have teams until the fifties. Well, OK. But only if you count the teams the West Coast started on their own, not the ones they kidnapped from NYC, Philly, KC, Minneapolis, Cleveland, etc.
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Post by hifigator on Jul 23, 2008 11:04:31 GMT -5
Damn It! And after I had done all I could to put "Who's Now?" out of my mind forever. I thought I had cleansed my mind but someone brought it up. As for the Titletown segment, I must admit that even though Gainesville is in the running, how can it not be Boston? I know long term the Yankees have it on the Sox easily, but right now I think you have to go with Boston. Remember, NY also has the Islanders, Rangers and Knicks in addition to the overrated Mets. Since Title Town is about a city's entire history of titles, NYC should include some teams that HiFi omitted... Too much time in the FL sun? How about baseball's Brooklyn Dodgers and NY Giants... quite a few titles there. Not to mention the more obvious omissions... the NY Jets (only one Superbowl, but the most famous and significant ever), and the NY Football Giants!, who have a total of 7 NFL titles, including 3 Superbowl crowns .... not to mention they are the reigning NFL Champs as winners of the most recent Superbowl. You missed my point entirely. I didn't omit those teams, I presumed they were the ones supporting New York. Thus I pointed out the ones that should be on the other side of the balance sheet -- especially recently.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 23, 2008 16:10:40 GMT -5
You missed my point entirely. I didn't omit those teams, I presumed they were the ones supporting New York. Thus I pointed out the ones that should be on the other side of the balance sheet -- especially recently. Why should they be on the other side? Those four teams you mentioned have combined for TWELVE championships in their respective sports (Islanders - 4, Rangers - 4, Mets - 2, Knicks - 2). I think he understood your point, he was merely pointing out how dumb it was. Well done Buffalo. I might add that the Red Sox have barely managed to match the Mets and Knicks over the last 90 years by winning two titles, which is half as many as the Rangers and Islanders over that time frame.
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Post by Jack on Jul 23, 2008 16:32:49 GMT -5
Well done Buffalo. I might add that the Red Sox have barely managed to match the Mets and Knicks over the last 90 years by winning two titles, which is half as many as the Rangers and Islanders over that time frame. Convenient time frame to use. We could talk about 7 total championships, which is admittedly far fewer than 26, but you'd think all Yankee fans remember watching Murderer's Row while at the same time ignoring the early Red Sox early championships. The 90's Yankee dynasty was great and they continue to be contenders year in and year out, but most fans today have no recollection of Mantle and Maris, much less Ruth and Gehrig.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 23, 2008 17:23:06 GMT -5
Well done Buffalo. I might add that the Red Sox have barely managed to match the Mets and Knicks over the last 90 years by winning two titles, which is half as many as the Rangers and Islanders over that time frame. Convenient time frame to use. We could talk about 7 total championships, which is admittedly far fewer than 26, but you'd think all Yankee fans remember watching Murderer's Row while at the same time ignoring the early Red Sox early championships. The 90's Yankee dynasty was great and they continue to be contenders year in and year out, but most fans today have no recollection of Mantle and Maris, much less Ruth and Gehrig. You really think most fans today don't know who Babe Ruth was?
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